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chrisleftwich

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Dynamo
« on: March 01, 2009, 12:10:41 AM »
Well got to try m Dynamo on a 47 foot flat oil shot at a tournament yesterday and just was not impressed at all.  The pin is above the finger with the cg kicked to the right about 1/2 in.  

The ball would just kind of turn real lazy and wouldn't get there.  Was playing about 12 straight up.  My polished Agent Orange was hooking more and that is what I ended up throwing.

Kind of sad as that is why i got the dynamo for these long oil tournament and it did not work for me, cover was OOB.  Maybe I should have gotten two agent oranges and just left one OOB.
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2009, 09:03:16 AM »
I'm not a lane 1 fan or know a whole lot about their stuff but I have an observation. The Agent Orange is pearl and Polished yes? If so and the Dynamo is a solid and dull then it really seems to me that the Dynamo is burning off way to much energy and the volume is most likely lighter even though the pattern is longer.
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2009, 09:12:25 AM »
the oil was very thick up front, so I think that he burning up factor is not the case.  

The only hook that anyone was getting on the lane at all was a little bit in the backend, but not much.
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2009, 10:30:03 AM »
Chris, you had the ball drilled with the Pin over RF. That drilling on that ball would probably work well on THS at for example Blvd and Heritage Lanes. For the 47' oil you say you were bowling on, the Dynamo would have performed better for you with the Pin under RF as a Pin under allows the ball start reving in the mid lane better/earlier. As with any ball from any company, it is about matching the ball, drilling, and surface to the condition you are playing on and I don't think drilling & cover was matched to the condition you were trying to use it on, especially with your higher speed.

PS: With my slower speed, it would probably perform great for me on THS at Heritage Lanes. I am thinking about going back to 15#, so you can drop it off in my hands if you don't like it.

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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 10:30:45 AM »
The same thing happened to me yesterday. 42ft of oil and bearly makes it back to the pocket, the righties were swinging 10 boards.
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2009, 11:36:34 AM »
CG,

I will have pro shop double check all of that as that might be the problem.

Brick,

Talking about ball speed, you have only seen me throw in league which I do throw pretty fast, but in a tournament i will throw slow if need be.  

Hopefully I can get this ball to react the same as the agent orange because that ball is a absolute beast.
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2009, 12:43:26 PM »
Chris....the box finish on the Dynamo is 4000 grit...that screams length. If you have a long, flat pattern then that when combined with the surface and your layout will give you a lot of length.

As for why your Agent ORange was working, that ball comes at 500 grit. If you just polished over that, you still have more surface than teh Dynamo.

Hit teh Dynamo with a 1000 grit Abralon pad and try again...also do you know the statics of the ball and also how  "pin over ring, cg out 1/2" relates to your PAP specs?
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Roy Munson

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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2009, 02:56:28 PM »
. . . mine is drilled stacked
. . . my pap is 4 1/8 -> down 5/16

. . . pin placement is 5" from PAP
. . . 3 3/8 from cg
. . . gives me length and a hockey stick movement
. . . which is what I want
. . . at 15.5 to 16.5 speed and about 400 revs
. . . this suits my game

. . . if I wanted it to hook early
. . . I would have ordered a 2" pin
. . . drill it 3 3/8 x 3 3/8
. . . with pin under ring
. . . if I want a banana style reaction
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2009, 06:41:01 PM »
I see this all the time on balls with the box finish at 4000.  They may work on the house shot, but on a longer oil pattern they all require a little more surface.  Especially with the pin over drilling.
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2009, 07:54:46 PM »
Pin Up = length

I had two dynamo's that were pin up and both went long, surface adjustment helps a little but honestly pin down is whats going to get the huge movement you want.
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2009, 06:47:30 AM »
Chris
What is your pap?

A pin above ring, cg out 1/2 will not be for the most part a good drilling for heavy long oil!

Pin ups for others doesnt always equate to length either.

A personal example if you will.

My first dynamo I drilled per the dual angle layout method that morich is so fond of.  and personally what I saw of the ball was exactly what the layout said I should have gotten

I laid my first ball out with a 35* drilling angle, pin to pap of 5.5 and val angle of 35*  for me this resulted with the pin above ring (almost 1" above and slighted towards the bridge)  

By definition of the dual angle layout, the 35^ drillangle allows the core to spin very fast very early. the longer pin length provided me some extra length.  the 35* val angle provided a very quick start off the friction, on longer oil this drilling was ideal, not a big big mover but when it sniffed dry it moved, when others couldnt make the turn this ball easily made the hole

now looking at your drilling, based upon a standard 5" up slightly pap

your drillangle would be in the 45-55 degree range making for a slow core start up (IE length) your pin would be in the 4-4.5 range (which is a good distance IMHO) but then your val angle is once again in the 45 or so range, which provides for a slower start off the dry (once again length)  by moving the cg out futher, something like 1.5-2" range and assuming rpms in the 300 range (place an x hole roughly 6-7" from your grip center on your grip center line, you would see a ball that still has decent length but would be able to make the turn downlane where you are not seeing it turn now
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2009, 08:28:52 AM »
. . . can u analyze what I have in mine, trig ?
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2009, 09:25:31 AM »
where is the pin at Roy?
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2009, 09:57:00 AM »
Don't know many who can effectively throw a 4000 grit ball on heavy oil regardless of how strong the coverstock is. Take it down a couple of notches.(1000 grit)
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Re: Dynamo
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2009, 10:32:56 AM »

Pin is 1.5 inches above ring
.5 inches to right of ring

pin, cg and mb stacked.

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