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Dynamo question
« on: March 18, 2009, 01:13:18 PM »
Bowlers with not much hand do you have problem using the Dynamo on the outside line ?
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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2009, 03:29:17 PM »
jls,

Regardless of the Dynamo, I just want to direct a post at your behavior, or to any board stirrers' behavior, whether pro- or anti-Lane #1 or anyone else: It's not funny and it doesn't make you look smart. In fact, it does 180 degrees opposite.

My personal crusade, if I have one, is to make sure board stirrers of all stripes come to the self-realization that they come across to the rest of the world as thimbledicks.

I think I remember you saying once that you either owned or worked in a shop. If so, that makes your attitude look even worse. As that relates to the Dynamo, every ball has people that hate it. I love Storm, but none of that company's heavy-oil balls has ever worked for me. For oilers, I much prefer Columbia or Visionary.

So does that mean Storm heavy oil balls are crap? Or Storm balls in general? I've had 50+ Storm balls in my life, so I'd say no. Just like I've had Lane #1 turds in the past but it doesn't mean a thing.

Jess


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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2009, 03:37:48 PM »
B-dawg,  you said nice things about me!!!  Wow, thankyou,  life as I know it can now go on.

Now as for the side by side.  That's cool,  I have no problem with that. But I do believe Tizzle also did a side by side.  And he posted that he did not feel the dynamo was the "Hook Monster"  it is made out to be.   And all I said was, "how can that be so."

Now I never said that we don't sell any balls.  I believe I said, that I have never seen anyone on the face of the earth using a Dynamo.  Heck, I even made a call on the loud speaker one nite asking,  "anyone using a Dynamo"  I received no replies.

Now B-Dawg and your side kick Steven,  just to set the record straight.  I never doubted the hook of this ball,  I questioned how a ball that just came out and had it's very first review on this site in late Feb. of 09, could already be proclaimed, the "ball of the year"  You see I would have thought a proven winner in sales would make a ball, the "ball of the year"  You see B-dawg, and your little buddy steven,  good sales usually mean that the feedback on a ball has been good, thus leading to good sales.  Kinda sorta like the Virtual Gravity which has been a top selling model for about 6 months now.

Now everyday we get balls in  to drill that are bought online.  We still have not had one single Dynamo in for drilling.  How can this be???

Now B-dawg and fellow sawheads,  you know and I know that we all know that "ain't no way you sawheads are paying about $200 or more for a ball.  We all know you sawheads buy your balls on Ebay, used for $30.  

Now a bid is closing in 5 minutes,  chop chop, get your bid in.

Now B-dawg and your little buddy Steven,  it's been a slice,  but now I must go.

Besides,  it seems that you both have no time for me,  your both too busy with CRD.

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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2009, 03:46:54 PM »
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jls,

Regardless of the Dynamo, I just want to direct a post at your behavior, or to any board stirrers' behavior, whether pro- or anti-Lane #1 or anyone else: It's not funny and it doesn't make you look smart. In fact, it does 180 degrees opposite.

My personal crusade, if I have one, is to make sure board stirrers of all stripes come to the self-realization that they come across to the rest of the world as thimbledicks.

I think I remember you saying once that you either owned or worked in a shop. If so, that makes your attitude look even worse. As that relates to the Dynamo, every ball has people that hate it. I love Storm, but none of that company's heavy-oil balls has ever worked for me. For oilers, I much prefer Columbia or Visionary.

So does that mean Storm heavy oil balls are crap? Or Storm balls in general? I've had 50+ Storm balls in my life, so I'd say no. Just like I've had Lane #1 turds in the past but it doesn't mean a thing.

Jess




Hey Jess, a company  calling their ball, the ball of the year, makes one look foolish!!!
The Dynamo, give me a break!!!!

All I ever did was question that!!!!  And sawheads don't like that.

Now Jess, if you don't like it, too bad.

Also, your crude rude sawhead type comments mean nothing to me!!!!

Why,  cause you are nothing to me, a was not has been never was.  That be you!!!

You sawheads can say anything you want,  but if someone questions it, you bash them.  

Now if a company is stupid enough to make ridiculous comments like "ball of the year"  and "make the lanes 5 boards wider" in order to try and sell balls,  then they should expect some with a brain to question it.

And Tizzle posted how he felt as to it's hooking power.  Yet sawheads blew that off.  And B-dawg only replied to B-nut's post where he felt the ball was a hook monster.  Typical Sawheads,  only hear what you want to hear.

Now send in your 2 cents cause I do believe you have earned a Sawhead patch.

Now Jess, are we clear




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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2009, 04:03:40 PM »
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Now Jess, are we clear




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The only thing we're "clear" on, jls, is that your posts make you look stupid. Beyond that, nothing else really matters.

If you don't like it when someone points out that fact, there's a simple solution: Say nothing. Otherwise, you'll just keep getting your words pushed back in your face and be made to eat them.

How clear was that?

Jess

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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2009, 04:14:59 PM »
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Now Jess, are we clear




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The only thing we're "clear" on, jls, is that your posts make you look stupid. Beyond that, nothing else really matters.

If you don't like it when someone points out that fact, there's a simple solution: Say nothing. Otherwise, you'll just keep getting your words pushed back in your face and be made to eat them.

How clear was that?

Jess



Actually Jess, may I call you Jess.  I will reply to anything I want too. You understand that boy?  When I see B.S.  I will reply.  Now several people questioned the "ball of the year"  ads, and they were treated rather rudely by the sawheads.  You sawheads think anything you say is the gospel according to Luke.  Well guess what boy, it ain't.  

Now I never heard Storm blow their own horn and proclaim the Virtual the "ball of the year"  and that ball is a major success here on Earth, not in Lo Lo Land where you sawheads live.

So please forgive me for "looking stupid" by questioning how a ball that few have ever heard of, and one that just came out in late Jan. of 09,  can possibly be the "ball of the year.

If asking a real question makes one stupid in the eyes of a butt head like you, then so be it.

After all, your a was not has been never was sawhead wan a bee.

Which means, you mean nothing to me, nothing at "tall"

you get the point

now move on


BTW,  read some of your post on Bowling Related about your thoughts on pro shops.  I think your post were right on the money.
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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2009, 04:25:28 PM »
LOL...sure thing jls. Keep on talking tough. Your astute, witty repartee has everyone in awe of your mental faculties here, I'm sure.

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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2009, 04:36:09 PM »
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LOL...sure thing jls. Keep on talking tough. Your astute, witty repartee has everyone in awe of your mental faculties here, I'm sure.

Jess



Jess,  some people have the ability to think.  And when they see something that makes little or no sense, they will comment on it.

It's too bad you are brainwashed.  If you wish to accept everything you read as the gospel, so be it.

Did you even bother to read the post you made about pro shops, in the bowling related section?

There you made sense.  Yet on this site in front of your sawhead buddies,  you make none.

Now at least Steven and B-dawg have the brains to understand what I was doing.
Jabbing at Lane Ones comments like, "make the lanes 5 boards wider"  "ball of the year"

Hey, If your going to post remarks like that, expect to be called on it.

And Jess, too bad if you don't like it.

just so you know
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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2009, 04:45:42 PM »
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Come on little steveie! I've given you ample chances to explain hou YOU think cores affect bowling balls, yet YOU never do.


CRD: Gee, I've never had the opportunity to be compared to Charles Manson or anyone else in his category. And you wonder why I suggest your circuitry isn't working properly. I don't know what to say except you must be choking on some of that tapioca you referenced in your last post.  

For someone who doesn't need a core to make the pins dance, I'm surprised you'd like any explanation at all. Since cores are not part of your thinking, I'll try to keep it simple and then determine if we need to go further.

In the nutshell, core/drill determines hook shape. Cover is certainly important because it provides for traction. But understanding, manipulating and utilizing hook shape to your advantage is critical if you ever want consistently average 220+. That's why it's important to understand the various core types (symmetric vs. asymmetric) and RG values (high, medium, low) relative to different drill combinations. One of my favorite non-Lane#1 cores is the Hammer High Mass Bias Gas Mask Core with Flip Block found in the Widow series. Get an ideal mass bias placement relative to the pin, and you can produce an incredible backend. That's been one of the holes in the Lane#1 line-up, and I've been able to fill it nicely with the Bite.

This is enough for now. In the past you've shown no appreciation for this aspect of bowling technology, so I fear it's wasted on you. If you ever do show a real desire to go into this stuff more, maybe then.

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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2009, 04:48:34 PM »
jls,

I don't accept everything I read, no. And I basically accept no marketing materials.

If I did, I guess the best way to throw a Columbia Momentum Swing would be to ask four teammates to crawl up on my back and let me carry them to the foul line, judging from the looks of the ad for that ball.

Lane #1, a long time ago, apparently adopted the idea that if you're the little guy, you have to splash hard with your advertising to get noticed. I liken it to the time back in 2001 when I was sitting at my desk at the job I used to work, heard "Hello there," and turned around to see two very stacked young college girls in bikini tops and short shorts holding cans of Red Bull, asking if it would be OK to distribute some samples. When Red Bull was first starting out, they did a lot of that kind of marketing.

Of course, my boss let them roam the halls giving out Red Bull, and a couple of guys got cameras out in the process. Did it make me go out and buy a bunch of Red Bull? No, because Red Bull, to my taste buds, sucks. (And now that Red Bull has good market share, I don't see any Red Bull Girls, walking around either.)

I don't particularly like Lane #1's marketing platforms. But that has no bearing on the balls themselves.

The Hybrid Dirty Bomb was supposed to handle oil. For me, it handled nothing. I had to polish it up and use it as a dry-lane ball. I've got a teammate going with me to state tournament this weekend who has one and it doesn't work for him, either. If I see him pull it out of his bag Saturday I'm going to hit him over the head with a resin bag.

But for others, it probably does what it says. I can find people on this site who hate a Storm X-Factor -- how? That may have been the best ball ever built. But those people exist.

Whether one guy has a great or terrible experience with a ball, from whatever company, is irrelevant. I suspect you know this. Your problem is that you use that as justification to bash a whole company. And I suspect most people know that isn't true, so you end up being the one to take the damage in that situation. Do you not see that?

Jess

Edited on 3/31/2009 4:50 PM

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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2009, 05:13:12 PM »
Jess,  thanks for taking the time to write such a nice reply.
Again, I agree with most if not all of what you said. Now where we differ is on this point.  Poking fun at some of the things Lane One's ads say, does not make one stupid.

Besides look at the bright side. Because of this I have had the pleasure to meet Steven and B-dawg. And I rather enjoy the back and forth post we make.

They both will take the time to address the topic, much like you just did. Even if we don't agree, they like you take the time to address the topic instead of bashing with a one liner.

They present their side, and rather well.  Yet they do listen to what the other has to say.  Then they address it.

I was impressed with your post on bowling related.  Heck I thought it was something I wrote. I agreed 100% on what you had to say about some pro shops. Especially the drilling part.  Love that line, "hitting the yellow line would be nice"

So again, thanks for taking the time to post,  I see you can take it as well as dish it out.

It's always a pleasure to argue with someone like Steven or B-Dawg or yourself, someone who will address the topic and not hide behind one line bashs.

Now

still clear

btw,  feel free to use "are we clear" any time you want.
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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2009, 05:25:02 PM »
Man, I never knew trying to do research on a ball would turn up so much Bull.

People need to relax and don't take offense to every word that YOU might not like.

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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2009, 05:39:22 PM »
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Jess,  thanks for taking the time to write such a nice reply.
Again, I agree with most if not all of what you said. Now where we differ is on this point.  Poking fun at some of the things Lane One's ads say, does not make one stupid.

Besides look at the bright side. Because of this I have had the pleasure to meet Steven and B-dawg. And I rather enjoy the back and forth post we make.

They both will take the time to address the topic, much like you just did. Even if we don't agree, they like you take the time to address the topic instead of bashing with a one liner.

They present their side, and rather well.  Yet they do listen to what the other has to say.  Then they address it.

I was impressed with your post on bowling related.  Heck I thought it was something I wrote. I agreed 100% on what you had to say about some pro shops. Especially the drilling part.  Love that line, "hitting the yellow line would be nice"

So again, thanks for taking the time to post,  I see you can take it as well as dish it out.

It's always a pleasure to argue with someone like Steven or B-Dawg or yourself, someone who will address the topic and not hide behind one line bashs.

Now

still clear

btw,  feel free to use "are we clear" any time you want.
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No problem. It's a lot more understandable now that I know you aren't completely sincere about the whole thing. You were threatening to remind me of an old guy I used to bowl with who wouldn't even so much as talk to you unless you had a bag full of the same equipment he threw (AMF in his case). He treated it like it was WWII, he was the Allies and everyone else was shooting at him. (g)

Jess

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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2009, 08:56:09 PM »
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All I ever did was question that!!!! And sawheads don't like that.


not true ( imagine that ) we gave you a different take on it, and you flew off the handle like a little girl who had their candy stolen from them......sad, sad
that you can't accept a different opinion to an issue

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Now Jess, if you don't like it, too bad.


same goes for you senior dip wad
if you don't like a difference in opinion than TOO BAD
get over it, and get over yourself

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Also, your crude rude sawhead type comments mean nothing to me!!!!

Why, cause you are nothing to me, a was not has been never was. That be you!!!


thats what you said about me, and I thought I was special in your world, and no matter what you say I got your goat, and when anybody including " sawheads " calls you on your bullcrap then you say the above quoted material.

your like a broken record ........skip,.........skip,.......skip
same old same old..........jls.............blah............blah.....blah.......
whine..........whine..........whine.......

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You sawheads can say anything you want, but if someone questions it, you bash them.


pot meet kettle
now c'mon jls, that's just crap
" you spot it you got it "
so the saying goes

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then they should expect some with a brain to question it.


giving you the benefit of the doubt on the " brain " issue, you did question it, and you argument was proven to be impotent, and you couldn't accept it
so you bash and trash everyone

good job buddy

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And Tizzle posted how he felt as to it's hooking power. Yet sawheads blew that off. And B-dawg only replied to B-nut's post where he felt the ball was a hook monster. Typical Sawheads, only hear what you want to hear.


i just gave a different opinion, and tried to show you both sides of the story
Senior Dip Wad

I heard it all, and question ending static weights of Tizzle's Dynamo, and of course it could have nothing to do with all the other variables involved, and to be honest the same could be said for B'nut also.

but all things being equal I will put the dynamo up against anything on the market today.

Matter of fact I'll go Frank and Tadilo action on your butt to prove it, which is more than I can say for you........Senior

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Now send in your 2 cents cause I do believe you have earned a Sawhead patch.


+2 cents dropped on your head, and my sawhead patch says LEAGUE CHAMPION

now............get on your storm forums
and get off my board......Senior Dip wad



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Now Jess, are we clear


jls, were crystal clear
your an idiot ( although a lovable one )
now go back and get in your troll hole


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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2009, 09:05:55 PM »
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Jess, some people have the ability to think


And some do not Senior.....

just a little one liner for my bud jls......



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Re: Dynamo question
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2009, 01:31:43 AM »
so i forgot what was the topic?