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Title: Dynamo question
Post by: Storm269 on March 18, 2009, 01:13:18 PM
Bowlers with not much hand do you have problem using the Dynamo on the outside line ?
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Nicanor on March 18, 2009, 09:18:21 PM
I have hand, but while I was trying to get the thumb to fit right, several times I didn't get it off my hand right and the ball did not have very many revs and not a lot of speed and works its way to the pocket and the carry was still very well.  I have the piin in the ring finger and the mb about 1 1/2 right of the thumb and the the balance hole just under the mb.  Does not have to be reved very much to be a powerful ball.


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Storm269 on March 18, 2009, 09:27:40 PM
Maybe I will do more practice with it...for me it didn't move much as compare to my VG...and still trying to figure out why..
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Nicanor on March 18, 2009, 10:37:19 PM
Mne almost follwed my VG drilled very simalr, maybe a little faster off the break point.  I think the VG needs more revs then the Dynamo.  But I do believe too much ball speed or not enough side rotation will cause the ball to skid too far and not turn over to its full potential.


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Storm269 on March 19, 2009, 12:37:15 AM
Ok thanks for the advice...I know what to look out for...
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: charlest on March 19, 2009, 08:58:39 AM
quote:
Maybe I will do more practice with it...for me it didn't move much as compare to my VG...and still trying to figure out why..
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Not enough oil?

Surface on the Dynamo is 1000 grit. Surface on the VG is 4000 grit. Due to that difference alone, the DYnamo requires more oil from the average handed and ball speed bowler than the VG to get good movement.
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Nicanor on March 19, 2009, 09:31:49 AM
Charlest,

I thought someone contacted Lane 1 and they confirmed that the dynamo was 4000 Ablaron.  Mine is at 2000 re-done from 1000 because thats the surfaces I put on them.


But you are right, if there isn't enough oil regardless you won't see the back end reaction.  But with regards to the Dynamo, once the ball comes even out of the head oil if thrown correctly it would make a strong move, and yes burn up and roll out.


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 19, 2009, 12:30:26 PM
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Charlest,

I thought someone contacted Lane 1 and they confirmed that the dynamo was 4000 Ablaron.  Mine is at 2000 re-done from 1000 because thats the surfaces I put on them.


But you are right, if there isn't enough oil regardless you won't see the back end reaction.  But with regards to the Dynamo, once the ball comes even out of the head oil if thrown correctly it would make a strong move, and yes burn up and roll out.


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Did you try it on those lanes that are 5 boards wider yet???   oops

It should be ok on them.   oops
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jls
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Monster Pike on March 19, 2009, 01:22:04 PM
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Charlest,

I thought someone contacted Lane 1 and they confirmed that the dynamo was 4000 Ablaron.  Mine is at 2000 re-done from 1000 because thats the surfaces I put on them.


But you are right, if there isn't enough oil regardless you won't see the back end reaction.  But with regards to the Dynamo, once the ball comes even out of the head oil if thrown correctly it would make a strong move, and yes burn up and roll out.


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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)




Did you try it on those lanes that are 5 boards wider yet???   oops

It should be ok on them.   oops
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jls


Is it ball of the year?  Nyuk Nyuk.  easy I'm j/k.
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Storm269 on March 19, 2009, 09:06:02 PM
Just to update, yesterday used the VG and Dynamo and did a comparsion before the league start.
I am a go straight down the lane bowler...
For VG, I was targeting my usual 1st arrow and everything is ok, straight down breakpoint hook and strike.
Next, Dynamo, same line, straight down to breakpoint but missed the breakpoint. So try to adjust by moving in 2 board, now target at 7-8 board, ball go done the lane and bingo...strike ! and follow by a few more using the same line.
For me, it seems the Dynamo is a much smoother ball then the VG and I have move in slightly for it to work for me...hopefully this is the beginning for more strike to come with this ball.
Thanks for reading !
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Nicanor on March 19, 2009, 09:38:16 PM
Did you try to adjust the surface or are you going to bowl with the Dynamo as is?


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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Storm269 on March 19, 2009, 10:18:53 PM
I actually have my Dynamo at 2000 grit.
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Shermster on March 20, 2009, 01:37:05 PM
quote:
I actually have my Dynamo at 2000 grit.
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And how do you like it compared to the 4000 grit?

My Dynamo is drilled stack at 4000 grit. Still a bit too hard to control. Leaves some pretty killer splits lol. I find myself throwing pretty hard on fresh @ 4000k. Do you have to do warp-speed with 2000k?
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: tizzle on March 21, 2009, 10:16:55 PM
The dynamo did very little for me, moved out further then I ever had with the VG, just to get it to hit the pocket, and carry was great. Once the lanes dried up a bit, I was able to swing the dynamo. Compared to my ebonite magic, the dynamo at 1000 (magic at 4000) was 4 boards less then the Magic on a flooded house shot. Dynamo drilled 4x4 like the magic. It is a good ball for down and in, but not the big hook monster it is made to be. i have medium revs, medium ball speed... I have thrown the NVD,VG,New Breed, Mega Friction,Magic,Cell,Rogue Cell.., the Dynamo falls about mid pack in my hands.
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag...some magic, some hot sauce, and a saw.. how can I loose....Dynamo and Liberator on the way.....


....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)

Edited on 3/21/2009 10:18 PM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 25, 2009, 01:08:36 PM
quote:
The dynamo did very little for me, moved out further then I ever had with the VG, just to get it to hit the pocket, and carry was great. Once the lanes dried up a bit, I was able to swing the dynamo. Compared to my ebonite magic, the dynamo at 1000 (magic at 4000) was 4 boards less then the Magic on a flooded house shot. Dynamo drilled 4x4 like the magic. It is a good ball for down and in, but not the big hook monster it is made to be. i have medium revs, medium ball speed... I have thrown the NVD,VG,New Breed, Mega Friction,Magic,Cell,Rogue Cell.., the Dynamo falls about mid pack in my hands.
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag...some magic, some hot sauce, and a saw.. how can I loose....Dynamo and Liberator on the way.....


....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)

Edited on 3/21/2009 10:18 PM





"not the big hook monster it is made to be"

The Dynamo???  How How can this be?

It said so.

Boy I 'm sure glad we held up on making the lanes 5 boards wider

Is it still the ball of the year?

Silly me,  hear I thought the Rogue Cell was,  or should I say, will be.


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jls
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on March 25, 2009, 01:23:59 PM
jls: Do you make it a habit of cherry picking comments that fit your agenda? Others have said it does hook a lot. You don't seem to take the more positive input as much to heart.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on March 25, 2009, 01:29:12 PM
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jls: Do you make it a habit of cherry picking comments that fit your agenda? Others have said it does hook a lot. You don't seem to take the more positive input as much to heart.


+1 and yes he does
wouldn't be jls if he wasn't making his sucker punch jabs
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 25, 2009, 01:45:08 PM
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jls: Do you make it a habit of cherry picking comments that fit your agenda? Others have said it does hook a lot. You don't seem to take the more positive input as much to heart.



Steven,  may I call you Steven.  You don't have time for me,  for I see you have your hands full with CRD.

Now move on.



B-dawg,  hey hows it going?

Actually I have missed you guys, ok that's a lie.  But I have noticed that the Dynamo seems to have fallen off the charts lately.  The ball of the year has sure been quiet on this site latley.

So I thought I would perk things up a bit, and wake up the sawheads!!!

I see it worked.

Too bad that there has been so little interest in the Dynamo lately.

But now that I have woke up some sawheads,  things may start to pick up.

No need to thank me.

My work here is done


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jls
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on March 25, 2009, 02:01:11 PM
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Steven, may I call you Steven. You don't have time for me, for I see you have your hands full with CRD.

Now move on.


jls: We've already established that you can call me Steven. I appreciate the courtesy of you asking, but the permission is a done deal. We can certainly 'move on' from that.

CRD? LOL. The man is certified to be at least one can short of a six pack. Maybe you can help him figure out how much reaction is from cover, and what the remaining might be. He's really struggled with that concept. Regardless, I'm currently not elbows deep in a CRD created cesspool.

If you're just bored and trying to generate some buzz, then cool. Now you can move on.....
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on March 31, 2009, 10:43:06 AM
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Yeah, little stevie, to your closed little mind that might be true.


CRD: The truth is the truth. It doesn't matter if you feel the messenger is arrogant or closed minded. And the truth is that you  are certified to be at least one can short of a six pack. Your repeated emotional break downs, lack of focus, and inability to comprehend some of the more basic technicalities of bowling are proof beyond a reasonable doubt. You should be appreciative to get this kind of constructive feedback. Clearly your so called friends apparently aren't being honest with you.

 
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Why don't you keep your focus on this post.  


There is that lack of focus I just mentioned. My focus was primarily on getting jls to be balanced in his evaluation of the Dynamo. You were just a unpleasant diversion he injected to the conversation. Anyway, thanks for you concern.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 31, 2009, 10:57:04 AM
Steven,  may I call you Steven.  All I said was "how could this be" to Tizzle's post.  He seem to say that he felt the Dynamo was not the "hook Monster" it was thought to be.

Now how is that not fair and balanced?

Why is it ok when a sawhead makes a claim that this ball is this or that,  but when someone else makes a statement that differs,  I'm unfair???

Now Steven,  I don't have time to play with you today,  and by the looks of it,  you will have your hands full with CRD.

Good luck
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jls
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlingnut07 on March 31, 2009, 11:02:57 AM
i just want to say im not a big lane#1 fan myself
HOWEVER i have drilled a dynamo and anyone who says this ball isnt a big hook ball is nuts.  i have it and a virtual gravity wich was touted to be a hook monster and the dynamo out hooks it by a mile.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on March 31, 2009, 11:05:03 AM
B'nut you can't say that
it disproves jls, and he won't stand for that

even though it's the truth
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on March 31, 2009, 11:14:46 AM
quote:
All I said was "how could this be" to Tizzle's post.


jls: Actually, you had a little more to say:

"Did you try it on those lanes that are 5 boards wider yet??? oops....It should be ok on them. oops"

"not the big hook monster it is made to be....The Dynamo??? How How can this be?....It said so....Boy I 'm sure glad we held up on making the lanes 5 boards wider"

"Is it still the ball of the year?....Silly me, hear I thought the Rogue Cell was, or should I say, will be"


 
quote:
Now how is that not fair and balanced?


If you really believe your above comments are 'fair and balanced', then maybe I've been over estimating you. You can however show some amends by helping CRD out. He currently thinks cover is 70% of reaction (or is it 90%?, hmmm), with the remainder undefined. He's made it clear it's not the core. Could it be his skills that he uses to 'make the ball move and the pins dance?' Maybe you could weigh in and help him out on this one.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 31, 2009, 11:15:16 AM
quote:
B'nut you can't say that
it disproves jls, and he won't stand for that

even though it's the truth
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B-dawg,  It was Tizzle who felt this ball was not the hook monster, not jls.

JLS was one of the first to widen the lanes.

And all JLS said was,  "how could this be"  to Tizzle comment that he felt the ball was not a "hook Monster"

Now Steven and B-dawg,  since I valued your opinion's,  my feeling's are hurt.

just in case you wanted to know







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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on March 31, 2009, 12:42:16 PM
jls your full of it

b'nut 07 just said the dynamo was a hook monster, and that it out hooked the almighty virtual gravity by no less than 1 mile, and that goes against everything you have ever said

believe what you will
dynamo = real deal
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on March 31, 2009, 12:58:57 PM
i bet you kid can beat up mine too right
i bet your king of all things FIGJAM, and it runs in your whole family right

you probably haven't bowled since the 90's

whatever
your still a troll unlike jls who has since evolved


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 31, 2009, 01:38:12 PM
quote:
jls your full of it

b'nut 07 just said the dynamo was a hook monster, and that it out hooked the almighty virtual gravity by no less than 1 mile, and that goes against everything you have ever said

believe what you will
dynamo = real deal
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B-dawg,  I see your playing brain dead today.

Tizzle posted that he felt the ball wasn't the "Hook Monster"   Now some sawhead comes on and post it is a hook monster.  But you choose to ignore the post that said it wasn't!!!!  But b-nut says it is, so that's the gospel according to Luke!!!!

Typical responce from you.  You only hear what you want to hear.  And I never compared it to anything as far as hook.  Now I never thought this one month wonder was the "ball of the Year"  but I don't recall comparing it to anything as far as hook goes.

Sales,  you know,  actual sales,  maybe,  but comparing it's hooking ability,  no.  I don't ever recall that.

How could I,  Still have never seen a single human bowl with this ball!!!!

So I serious doubt, old sawhead  boy, that I ever compared it's hook to the Virtual.


Now I 'm sure you will be able to post that thread where you claim I said the Virtual out hooked the Dynamo.

Might have said Out Sold!!!!

now

are we clear
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Edited on 3/31/2009 1:42 PM

Edited on 3/31/2009 4:25 PM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on March 31, 2009, 01:49:22 PM
ouch such hostility

whats the matter jls

your sister/wife holding out on you again

agreed heavy oil balls need oil to do their job best
all im saying, is you hype your precious VG like it was produced in heaven, and somebody who has tried them out side by side says different

none of this has anything to do w/ the OP's questions

so I take it back all the nice things i said about you
you = troll
hijacking, instigating, good for nothing troll
just like your brother

and it's no wonder you don't sell any balls your in here flapping your useless gums all the time

later trolls
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on March 31, 2009, 02:51:32 PM
all the research is out there , and quite easy to find for anybody w/ a brain
what i hear you asking Steven is to reinvent the wheel.

original though comes from r & d guys who design ball cores

and for the record Stevens post are much more intelligent and well written than anything you have ever put up in here


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: JessN16 on March 31, 2009, 03:29:17 PM
jls,

Regardless of the Dynamo, I just want to direct a post at your behavior, or to any board stirrers' behavior, whether pro- or anti-Lane #1 or anyone else: It's not funny and it doesn't make you look smart. In fact, it does 180 degrees opposite.

My personal crusade, if I have one, is to make sure board stirrers of all stripes come to the self-realization that they come across to the rest of the world as thimbledicks.

I think I remember you saying once that you either owned or worked in a shop. If so, that makes your attitude look even worse. As that relates to the Dynamo, every ball has people that hate it. I love Storm, but none of that company's heavy-oil balls has ever worked for me. For oilers, I much prefer Columbia or Visionary.

So does that mean Storm heavy oil balls are crap? Or Storm balls in general? I've had 50+ Storm balls in my life, so I'd say no. Just like I've had Lane #1 turds in the past but it doesn't mean a thing.

Jess

Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 31, 2009, 03:37:48 PM
B-dawg,  you said nice things about me!!!  Wow, thankyou,  life as I know it can now go on.

Now as for the side by side.  That's cool,  I have no problem with that. But I do believe Tizzle also did a side by side.  And he posted that he did not feel the dynamo was the "Hook Monster"  it is made out to be.   And all I said was, "how can that be so."

Now I never said that we don't sell any balls.  I believe I said, that I have never seen anyone on the face of the earth using a Dynamo.  Heck, I even made a call on the loud speaker one nite asking,  "anyone using a Dynamo"  I received no replies.

Now B-Dawg and your side kick Steven,  just to set the record straight.  I never doubted the hook of this ball,  I questioned how a ball that just came out and had it's very first review on this site in late Feb. of 09, could already be proclaimed, the "ball of the year"  You see I would have thought a proven winner in sales would make a ball, the "ball of the year"  You see B-dawg, and your little buddy steven,  good sales usually mean that the feedback on a ball has been good, thus leading to good sales.  Kinda sorta like the Virtual Gravity which has been a top selling model for about 6 months now.

Now everyday we get balls in  to drill that are bought online.  We still have not had one single Dynamo in for drilling.  How can this be???

Now B-dawg and fellow sawheads,  you know and I know that we all know that "ain't no way you sawheads are paying about $200 or more for a ball.  We all know you sawheads buy your balls on Ebay, used for $30.  

Now a bid is closing in 5 minutes,  chop chop, get your bid in.

Now B-dawg and your little buddy Steven,  it's been a slice,  but now I must go.

Besides,  it seems that you both have no time for me,  your both too busy with CRD.

just in case you wanted to know



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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 31, 2009, 03:46:54 PM
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jls,

Regardless of the Dynamo, I just want to direct a post at your behavior, or to any board stirrers' behavior, whether pro- or anti-Lane #1 or anyone else: It's not funny and it doesn't make you look smart. In fact, it does 180 degrees opposite.

My personal crusade, if I have one, is to make sure board stirrers of all stripes come to the self-realization that they come across to the rest of the world as thimbledicks.

I think I remember you saying once that you either owned or worked in a shop. If so, that makes your attitude look even worse. As that relates to the Dynamo, every ball has people that hate it. I love Storm, but none of that company's heavy-oil balls has ever worked for me. For oilers, I much prefer Columbia or Visionary.

So does that mean Storm heavy oil balls are crap? Or Storm balls in general? I've had 50+ Storm balls in my life, so I'd say no. Just like I've had Lane #1 turds in the past but it doesn't mean a thing.

Jess




Hey Jess, a company  calling their ball, the ball of the year, makes one look foolish!!!
The Dynamo, give me a break!!!!

All I ever did was question that!!!!  And sawheads don't like that.

Now Jess, if you don't like it, too bad.

Also, your crude rude sawhead type comments mean nothing to me!!!!

Why,  cause you are nothing to me, a was not has been never was.  That be you!!!

You sawheads can say anything you want,  but if someone questions it, you bash them.  

Now if a company is stupid enough to make ridiculous comments like "ball of the year"  and "make the lanes 5 boards wider" in order to try and sell balls,  then they should expect some with a brain to question it.

And Tizzle posted how he felt as to it's hooking power.  Yet sawheads blew that off.  And B-dawg only replied to B-nut's post where he felt the ball was a hook monster.  Typical Sawheads,  only hear what you want to hear.

Now send in your 2 cents cause I do believe you have earned a Sawhead patch.

Now Jess, are we clear




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Edited on 3/31/2009 3:51 PM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: JessN16 on March 31, 2009, 04:03:40 PM
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Now Jess, are we clear




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Edited on 3/31/2009 3:51 PM


The only thing we're "clear" on, jls, is that your posts make you look stupid. Beyond that, nothing else really matters.

If you don't like it when someone points out that fact, there's a simple solution: Say nothing. Otherwise, you'll just keep getting your words pushed back in your face and be made to eat them.

How clear was that?

Jess
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 31, 2009, 04:14:59 PM
quote:
quote:


Now Jess, are we clear




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Edited on 3/31/2009 3:51 PM


The only thing we're "clear" on, jls, is that your posts make you look stupid. Beyond that, nothing else really matters.

If you don't like it when someone points out that fact, there's a simple solution: Say nothing. Otherwise, you'll just keep getting your words pushed back in your face and be made to eat them.

How clear was that?

Jess



Actually Jess, may I call you Jess.  I will reply to anything I want too. You understand that boy?  When I see B.S.  I will reply.  Now several people questioned the "ball of the year"  ads, and they were treated rather rudely by the sawheads.  You sawheads think anything you say is the gospel according to Luke.  Well guess what boy, it ain't.  

Now I never heard Storm blow their own horn and proclaim the Virtual the "ball of the year"  and that ball is a major success here on Earth, not in Lo Lo Land where you sawheads live.

So please forgive me for "looking stupid" by questioning how a ball that few have ever heard of, and one that just came out in late Jan. of 09,  can possibly be the "ball of the year.

If asking a real question makes one stupid in the eyes of a butt head like you, then so be it.

After all, your a was not has been never was sawhead wan a bee.

Which means, you mean nothing to me, nothing at "tall"

you get the point

now move on


BTW,  read some of your post on Bowling Related about your thoughts on pro shops.  I think your post were right on the money.
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: JessN16 on March 31, 2009, 04:25:28 PM
LOL...sure thing jls. Keep on talking tough. Your astute, witty repartee has everyone in awe of your mental faculties here, I'm sure.

Jess
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 31, 2009, 04:36:09 PM
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LOL...sure thing jls. Keep on talking tough. Your astute, witty repartee has everyone in awe of your mental faculties here, I'm sure.

Jess



Jess,  some people have the ability to think.  And when they see something that makes little or no sense, they will comment on it.

It's too bad you are brainwashed.  If you wish to accept everything you read as the gospel, so be it.

Did you even bother to read the post you made about pro shops, in the bowling related section?

There you made sense.  Yet on this site in front of your sawhead buddies,  you make none.

Now at least Steven and B-dawg have the brains to understand what I was doing.
Jabbing at Lane Ones comments like, "make the lanes 5 boards wider"  "ball of the year"

Hey, If your going to post remarks like that, expect to be called on it.

And Jess, too bad if you don't like it.

just so you know
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jls

Edited on 3/31/2009 4:37 PM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on March 31, 2009, 04:45:42 PM
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Come on little steveie! I've given you ample chances to explain hou YOU think cores affect bowling balls, yet YOU never do.


CRD: Gee, I've never had the opportunity to be compared to Charles Manson or anyone else in his category. And you wonder why I suggest your circuitry isn't working properly. I don't know what to say except you must be choking on some of that tapioca you referenced in your last post.  

For someone who doesn't need a core to make the pins dance, I'm surprised you'd like any explanation at all. Since cores are not part of your thinking, I'll try to keep it simple and then determine if we need to go further.

In the nutshell, core/drill determines hook shape. Cover is certainly important because it provides for traction. But understanding, manipulating and utilizing hook shape to your advantage is critical if you ever want consistently average 220+. That's why it's important to understand the various core types (symmetric vs. asymmetric) and RG values (high, medium, low) relative to different drill combinations. One of my favorite non-Lane#1 cores is the Hammer High Mass Bias Gas Mask Core with Flip Block found in the Widow series. Get an ideal mass bias placement relative to the pin, and you can produce an incredible backend. That's been one of the holes in the Lane#1 line-up, and I've been able to fill it nicely with the Bite.

This is enough for now. In the past you've shown no appreciation for this aspect of bowling technology, so I fear it's wasted on you. If you ever do show a real desire to go into this stuff more, maybe then.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: JessN16 on March 31, 2009, 04:48:34 PM
jls,

I don't accept everything I read, no. And I basically accept no marketing materials.

If I did, I guess the best way to throw a Columbia Momentum Swing would be to ask four teammates to crawl up on my back and let me carry them to the foul line, judging from the looks of the ad for that ball.

Lane #1, a long time ago, apparently adopted the idea that if you're the little guy, you have to splash hard with your advertising to get noticed. I liken it to the time back in 2001 when I was sitting at my desk at the job I used to work, heard "Hello there," and turned around to see two very stacked young college girls in bikini tops and short shorts holding cans of Red Bull, asking if it would be OK to distribute some samples. When Red Bull was first starting out, they did a lot of that kind of marketing.

Of course, my boss let them roam the halls giving out Red Bull, and a couple of guys got cameras out in the process. Did it make me go out and buy a bunch of Red Bull? No, because Red Bull, to my taste buds, sucks. (And now that Red Bull has good market share, I don't see any Red Bull Girls, walking around either.)

I don't particularly like Lane #1's marketing platforms. But that has no bearing on the balls themselves.

The Hybrid Dirty Bomb was supposed to handle oil. For me, it handled nothing. I had to polish it up and use it as a dry-lane ball. I've got a teammate going with me to state tournament this weekend who has one and it doesn't work for him, either. If I see him pull it out of his bag Saturday I'm going to hit him over the head with a resin bag.

But for others, it probably does what it says. I can find people on this site who hate a Storm X-Factor -- how? That may have been the best ball ever built. But those people exist.

Whether one guy has a great or terrible experience with a ball, from whatever company, is irrelevant. I suspect you know this. Your problem is that you use that as justification to bash a whole company. And I suspect most people know that isn't true, so you end up being the one to take the damage in that situation. Do you not see that?

Jess

Edited on 3/31/2009 4:50 PM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on March 31, 2009, 05:13:12 PM
Jess,  thanks for taking the time to write such a nice reply.
Again, I agree with most if not all of what you said. Now where we differ is on this point.  Poking fun at some of the things Lane One's ads say, does not make one stupid.

Besides look at the bright side. Because of this I have had the pleasure to meet Steven and B-dawg. And I rather enjoy the back and forth post we make.

They both will take the time to address the topic, much like you just did. Even if we don't agree, they like you take the time to address the topic instead of bashing with a one liner.

They present their side, and rather well.  Yet they do listen to what the other has to say.  Then they address it.

I was impressed with your post on bowling related.  Heck I thought it was something I wrote. I agreed 100% on what you had to say about some pro shops. Especially the drilling part.  Love that line, "hitting the yellow line would be nice"

So again, thanks for taking the time to post,  I see you can take it as well as dish it out.

It's always a pleasure to argue with someone like Steven or B-Dawg or yourself, someone who will address the topic and not hide behind one line bashs.

Now

still clear

btw,  feel free to use "are we clear" any time you want.
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Shermster on March 31, 2009, 05:25:02 PM
Man, I never knew trying to do research on a ball would turn up so much Bull.

People need to relax and don't take offense to every word that YOU might not like.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: JessN16 on March 31, 2009, 05:39:22 PM
quote:
Jess,  thanks for taking the time to write such a nice reply.
Again, I agree with most if not all of what you said. Now where we differ is on this point.  Poking fun at some of the things Lane One's ads say, does not make one stupid.

Besides look at the bright side. Because of this I have had the pleasure to meet Steven and B-dawg. And I rather enjoy the back and forth post we make.

They both will take the time to address the topic, much like you just did. Even if we don't agree, they like you take the time to address the topic instead of bashing with a one liner.

They present their side, and rather well.  Yet they do listen to what the other has to say.  Then they address it.

I was impressed with your post on bowling related.  Heck I thought it was something I wrote. I agreed 100% on what you had to say about some pro shops. Especially the drilling part.  Love that line, "hitting the yellow line would be nice"

So again, thanks for taking the time to post,  I see you can take it as well as dish it out.

It's always a pleasure to argue with someone like Steven or B-Dawg or yourself, someone who will address the topic and not hide behind one line bashs.

Now

still clear

btw,  feel free to use "are we clear" any time you want.
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No problem. It's a lot more understandable now that I know you aren't completely sincere about the whole thing. You were threatening to remind me of an old guy I used to bowl with who wouldn't even so much as talk to you unless you had a bag full of the same equipment he threw (AMF in his case). He treated it like it was WWII, he was the Allies and everyone else was shooting at him. (g)

Jess
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on March 31, 2009, 08:56:09 PM
quote:
All I ever did was question that!!!! And sawheads don't like that.


not true ( imagine that ) we gave you a different take on it, and you flew off the handle like a little girl who had their candy stolen from them......sad, sad
that you can't accept a different opinion to an issue

quote:
Now Jess, if you don't like it, too bad.


same goes for you senior dip wad
if you don't like a difference in opinion than TOO BAD
get over it, and get over yourself

quote:
Also, your crude rude sawhead type comments mean nothing to me!!!!

Why, cause you are nothing to me, a was not has been never was. That be you!!!


thats what you said about me, and I thought I was special in your world, and no matter what you say I got your goat, and when anybody including " sawheads " calls you on your bullcrap then you say the above quoted material.

your like a broken record ........skip,.........skip,.......skip
same old same old..........jls.............blah............blah.....blah.......
whine..........whine..........whine.......

quote:
You sawheads can say anything you want, but if someone questions it, you bash them.


pot meet kettle
now c'mon jls, that's just crap
" you spot it you got it "
so the saying goes

quote:
then they should expect some with a brain to question it.


giving you the benefit of the doubt on the " brain " issue, you did question it, and you argument was proven to be impotent, and you couldn't accept it
so you bash and trash everyone

good job buddy

quote:
And Tizzle posted how he felt as to it's hooking power. Yet sawheads blew that off. And B-dawg only replied to B-nut's post where he felt the ball was a hook monster. Typical Sawheads, only hear what you want to hear.


i just gave a different opinion, and tried to show you both sides of the story
Senior Dip Wad

I heard it all, and question ending static weights of Tizzle's Dynamo, and of course it could have nothing to do with all the other variables involved, and to be honest the same could be said for B'nut also.

but all things being equal I will put the dynamo up against anything on the market today.

Matter of fact I'll go Frank and Tadilo action on your butt to prove it, which is more than I can say for you........Senior

quote:
Now send in your 2 cents cause I do believe you have earned a Sawhead patch.


+2 cents dropped on your head, and my sawhead patch says LEAGUE CHAMPION

now............get on your storm forums
and get off my board......Senior Dip wad



quote:
Now Jess, are we clear


jls, were crystal clear
your an idiot ( although a lovable one )
now go back and get in your troll hole


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Edited on 3/31/2009 8:59 PM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on March 31, 2009, 09:05:55 PM
quote:
Jess, some people have the ability to think


And some do not Senior.....

just a little one liner for my bud jls......



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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: sluggo35 on April 01, 2009, 01:31:43 AM
so i forgot what was the topic?
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: absoluteisanidiot on April 01, 2009, 08:51:40 AM
jls spewing his poison as usual when in fact I was talking with 2 of the reps at Lane#1 and they said the Dynamo has out sold the BuzzBomb which was hugely popular.  In fact they said it still selling as strong today as it was in the beginning and they are on their 3rd pour.   You see jls you don't have inside info so go away bro your an idiot.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on April 01, 2009, 09:55:22 AM
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on April 01, 2009, 10:22:05 AM
quote:
jls spewing his poison as usual when in fact I was talking with 2 of the reps at Lane#1 and they said the Dynamo has out sold the BuzzBomb which was hugely popular.  In fact they said it still selling as strong today as it was in the beginning and they are on their 3rd pour.   You see jls you don't have inside info so go away bro your an idiot.



Hey little boy, never said I had any inside info on the sales of this ball.

What I did say was this. In a city of 9 mil.  I still have not seen one Dynamo being used.  In the three months this ball has been out,  not one was brought in that was bought online for drilling.  Not one single customer has asked for this ball.

Now I could care less little boy what Reps you claim to have talked too.  I'm glad their sales are doing well little boy.  

But here in the real world,  have not seen one bowler with this ball.  Have not had one bowler bring one into be drilled,  yet we drill outside balls...  balls bought online, every single day of the year!!!!!   And we have not one request for this ball by any customer.  Yet we get plenty of request for the Virtual, the 2nd, the Rogue Cell, Cell Pearls, Bite's,  heck we even sold three Striking  Motion's in the last 10 days!!!!

So little boy,  go pretend that you are something, somewhere else, and go talk to the Reps... my butt.  Your just another little boy toy sawhead.

Also little boy,  I never knocked the quality of this ball or it's sales, you poor excuse for a useless human.  I only QUESTIONED the wording of their ads.

"ball of the year"    Now if you or any other little make believe sawhead does not like that,  that's too bad boy.  You mean nothing to me,  you mean even less then B-dawg,  and he means nothing to me.  

And your B.S. talks with the sales reps.  Give me a break.

I have dealt with Lane One for years little boy.  Many times while ordering a ball,  we were told it's on B/O, and we have 144 due in next week,  etc etc etc.  Don't pretend like they are selling millions of balls here little boy.

Now if you want to be a loyal little suckup sawhead and believe everything their ads say.... so be it.   But I don't.  and this ball is not now or ever the ball of the year.  We have sold more Rogue Cells in 2 weeks then we will ever sell of the Dynamo.  And people ASK for it by NAME little boy.

Now in closing little boy,  and this goes for your boy toy friend B-dawg,  your both losers.  Your both losers who buy their balls on Ebay... used for $30.00.  No way in heck,  you were paying $200 plus for Lane One balls.  Up untill recently, their balls cost us pro shop about $169-$179.  Now they have lowered their price to shops....  GEE I wonder why????????????????

You just another litle boy pretending to be a man and wanting to act like your a big time Buzzsaw man...   That is sad.

now be gone little man... you bore me.

PS,  you bore me too... B-dawg.  Oh did I mention, your a joke and a loser...
Now do what you do best..  Place a bid on Ebay for one of these balls.

Now since you both love my lines so much....

are we clear


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Edited on 4/1/2009 10:46 AM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on April 01, 2009, 10:39:27 AM
quote:
Gosh, little stevie. That was a real nice bedtime story. Regurgitated from the best. It was too much to expect an original thought from you.  


CRD: Bedtime story? LOL. You have no response to any of the 'core' discussion you rudely requested (but still I provided), so your answer is 'Regurgitated from the best'. Weak, but expected.

I even (purposely) gave you an opening, declaring that the Hammer asymmetric Gas Mask core fills a opening in the Lane#1 lineup. I figured that if you had a bulb still working, you'd jump on that and take it further. Maybe even prove me wrong that you're damaged goods. Again, you failed miserably, but based on past history that's no surprise.

quote:
So tell me, little stevie, why bother adjusting surfaces? Because surface and surface adjustments affect hook shape more than anything else.


Core/drill determines fundamental hook shape. Surface adjustments affect the hook shape, but do not determine it. That's why at the extreme, it's folly to take an aggressive low-RG ball, max it out with a stacked leverage drill, and try to turn it into a high-RG skip/snap reaction through surface adjustments. That generally doesn't work.  

Before going any further, you have a responsibility to completely explain the statement that defined your entry into Ballreviews:

 
quote:
I don't rely on a core to make the ball move and the pins dance. I use my skills and shell prep (90% of ball reaction) to get the job done.  


You hate being pinned down by the above, but it shows such a complete lack of fundamental understanding, you need to clarify if you want to be taken seriously. The statement begs that the following questions be answered:

1) What is the other 10% of reaction attributed to?
2) How can you remove starting hook shape (core/drill) from the equation and effectively match up to different conditions?
3) If you don't understand all the shell prep options available to you, how do you know you're getting optimal reaction?

Redemption is at your fingertips if you're capable of providing reasonable answers.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 01, 2009, 10:59:42 AM
good one jls you got me laughing out loud.............

all we did was give you a different vantage point, and yet you still won't accept it, and retaliate and bash because the truth makes you uncomfortable.

and when confronted with the truth you run and yell obscenities over your shoulder as you run on home to momma.

your impotent in life and in your arguments, and even the " English Majors "
( some of your best friends ) agree with me

so go get your Schlitz Malt Liquor, and sink back down into your Lazy Boy
and get a new cause in your life to champion

you are spent

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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on April 01, 2009, 11:12:25 AM
quote:
good one jls you got me laughing out loud.............

all we did was give you a different vantage point, and yet you still won't accept it, and retaliate and bash because the truth makes you uncomfortable.

and when confronted with the truth you run and yell obscenities over your shoulder as you run on home to momma.

your impotent in life and in your arguments, and even the " English Majors "
( some of your best friends ) agree with me

so go get your Schlitz Malt Liquor, and sink back down into your Lazy Boy
and get a new cause in your life to champion

you are spent

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I'm your huckleberry




B-dawg,  I see your up.  Now wtf are you talking about?  

"you are spent"  I like that....  you see even sawheads can  come up with a new thought, if they try.

Now I must go.   You see tonite we are going hunting. Or should I say searching.

We are going to see if we can find a bowler using the Dynamo, or a bowler that has heard of the Dynamo.  

Then "we be a going" to Golf Galaxy.... It's Nike nite you know.

B-Dawg,  say hi to Steven for me. He seems to be pretty busy with CRD, so I don't want to bother him.  But since today is the first of the month,  I figured you will see him at the sawhead meeting....

Dues are do.... chop chop

"you are spent"   I like that  May I use it sometime?

untill then

still clear
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Edited on 4/1/2009 11:12 AM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on April 01, 2009, 11:26:17 AM
quote:
B-Dawg, say hi to Steven for me. He seems to be pretty busy with CRD, so I don't want to bother him. But since today is the first of the month, I figured you will see him at the sawhead meeting....  


jls: Gee, that's a cold low blow......

I'm a 'saw appreciator', not a 'saw head'. The sawhead thing has too much baggage attached to it. Just a note for future reference.

As far as the CRD thing, if you could help him out with some of the fundamentals, a lot of this back-and-forth stuff would go away.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on April 01, 2009, 11:37:15 AM
quote:
quote:
B-Dawg, say hi to Steven for me. He seems to be pretty busy with CRD, so I don't want to bother him. But since today is the first of the month, I figured you will see him at the sawhead meeting....  


jls: Gee, that's a cold low blow......

I'm a 'saw appreciator', not a 'saw head'. The sawhead thing has too much baggage attached to it. Just a note for future reference.

As far as the CRD thing, if you could help him out with some of the fundamentals, a lot of this back-and-forth stuff would go away.




Steven,  first let say I 'm very sorry about the sawhead thing.

Now as for CRD.  

Your on your own buddy.

Now I have been following it,  and I must say you both are doing fine.

No help from me is needed!!!!

Maybe you could help me!!!!

I wish sawheads would stop thinking I hate lane One.  

All I did was ask a question.  

At least you can see the humor in some of my latest post.  

"how can that be"....   "the lanes are 5 boards wider"

You know,  come to think of it,  this Dynamo has gotten a lot of air time, thanks to me.....

They should pay me....  for our post have created a lot of attention for this ball....  You know the "ball of the year"    oops   sorry.

Now I see the Fedex truck,  which means only one thing....  Balls from Global and golf grips from Golfsmith.....

Have a good day Steven,  and your doing just fine with CRD.

just so you know



"you are spent"   I love that line


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jls
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: absoluteisanidiot on April 01, 2009, 04:33:15 PM
jls who's the little boy just look in the mirror your hiding behind your desk wackin your little boy looking at the Dynamo ad.  I've never seen anyone as interested in a ball or ad like you are.  You probably have the ad all over the place in your bedroom in your bathroom in the kitchen on the counters on the stove on your fridge in your car on your house on your desk in the garage just everywhere you have to I just know it.   You go little boy we won't say anything about it because your special.    

jls we know your staying awake at night ready to argue with Steven who by the way has more knowledge and a better understanding of bowling balls and the like than an amateur like you.   You and cool rockin daddy doing the hump bust everyday to the Dynamo ad.    Probably using some song like overkill from Men at Work as your song.   Plus what you really should be worried about is your actually liable for what you say about a company and how you put down a company and how your trying to make people shy a way from that small company from Syracuse when they have actually done nothing to you.   You may actually by spewing your little hatred for the company in an open forum and talking it down you may hurt sales.    Little things for the little boy to think about.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: completebowler on April 01, 2009, 04:49:24 PM
I actually experimented and used a plank to add 5 more boards to the lane and it is true....the Dynamo is WAYYYY better when you have five more boards.

I was playing from 6 to what would be -3 and the ball just faced up and from that wide of an angle absolutely DESTROYED the pins.

We need this rule change so I can use my Dynamo everywhere.










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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on April 01, 2009, 04:58:19 PM
quote:
I actually experimented and used a plank to add 5 more boards to the lane and it is true....the Dynamo is WAYYYY better when you have five more boards.

I was playing from 6 to what would be -3 and the ball just faced up and from that wide of an angle absolutely DESTROYED the pins.

We need this rule change so I can use my Dynamo everywhere.










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Obama will bail out the houses so they can add more lanes.
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: completebowler on April 01, 2009, 05:44:28 PM
Again jls, here you are on another Lane 1 thread.

Are dumb or just plain stupid?

Nobody wants to hear your b.s. about Buzzsaws.

ARE WE CLEAR?
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on April 01, 2009, 05:50:31 PM
quote:
I have said if before in NUMEROUS posts and I will say it again for all to see: I amended my statement and backed off from 90% to 70% shell being the biggest factor. Since Jeri Edwards agrees with that figure it is good enough for me. Probably isn't good enough for you, but than again, what is.  


CRD: Yes, you have. And I get the backing off part. What I don't understand is, why the change? In bowling terms, you're not a spring chicken. You've probably been bowling since you were a kid (meaning 40+ years). You had your whole life to formulate, based on experience, the 90% number. So after all these years and all that experience, you bump it down to 70% just based on what Jeri Edwards says. That tells me that the number doesn't really have a personal meaning to you. I find that a little disappointing.

 
quote:
If you weren't suffering from such a bad case of rectal/cranial inversion, you might be able to read and understand what people post. The biggest joke is you're asked to give your dissertation on cores on a Lane # 1 board, and you bring up a Hammer core! Little stevie, for the last time, please explain the diamond core to us and what makes it special. Just do that one little thing for all of your fans. All three of them.
 


If I honestly believed there was any value in sharing Lane#1 core information with you, I would. I really enjoy discussing the contrasts between the Diamond core, the Bomb core, the C2, and the different permutations based on mini-nugget placement. They each provide for a different kind of roll, and it's fun to exchange notes with others who have experimented.

In your case, the time and effort would be wasted. You don't have any Lane#1 experience, and more important, you still don't seem to understand the overall role of core/drill in ball reaction. If you ever evolve to that understanding (and maybe Jerri Edwards can help you with this), we can discuss.

 
quote:
Like I said, I know you and I haven't even met you. You're all talk. A couple of times now I have described how I know how you behave in situations. You've never refuted them. Silence is assent. I'm sure they hit a bit close to home.


This has to be one of the most laughable things you've brought up. Because I haven't responded to your fantasies of 'how I know how you behave in situations', that's concurrence? Please. You don't have a clue. You usually play personality detective games during your emotional breakdowns, and I'm not going to respond to your out of control rantings.  

 
quote:
Just stop bothering me now. You're boring. I keep trying to ignore you but I keep on seeing me referenced in your posts. You're stalking me is not flattering anymore. It's just a nuisance. Go away. You have proved without a shadow of doubt that you are nothing but hot air. Maybe some of the young lads around here are impressed but they'll learn as they get older.


I'm not here to impress anyone. I'm here because I love bowling and the exchange of useful information. I really believe you love the game too, but you're clueless about the technicalities of the game.

What's sad is that you have no useful information to share. You're all about cover, but don't understand all the options for preparation. Further, you don't understand core, drill, or any of the other fundamentals that many bowlers consider critical. Because you don't understand, you call it 'hot air' and 'rhetoric'. Further proof that ignorance is a cancer that's alive and well.

Go forward with the bowling bubble you've surrounded yourself in. I'm sure it's a safe and content little world.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Buddy Christ on April 01, 2009, 07:33:29 PM
Seriously? Three pages on the question, "Bowlers with not much hand do you have problem using the Dynamo on the outside line ?"

Glad to see we have such a helpful crew at Ballreviews. Keep up the good work, guys!

Sheesh. That was too much satire, even for my liking.
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on April 01, 2009, 08:17:27 PM
quote:
No, I understand drillings, cores, etc. just fine. I choose not to obsess over it because ultimately it comes down to how I perform that determines how well I score.


Since you've never shared any of that knowledge in any context, you sure do a great job at keeping secrets. You don't have to be 'obsessed' to communicate. After all, this is a board for sharing this kind of information. Still, something doesn't seem right. You're not making the obvious link between core/drilling and scoring. That's troubling.

 
quote:
Interesting comment in the coverstock prep forum. And your proof that a homemade cleaner solution doesn't clean as well as a pro shop bought one? Of course there isn't any proof offered by you. Just you being your arrogant self proclaiming the truth for everyone to bow down to, as only a truly delusional person can.  


Don't make things complex. The proof is in comparative testing. I used Simple Green and F409 for years. I then experimented with C&D, Hook-It, and many other cleaners. Some don't do any better, but C&D and Hook-It are clearly superior. They pick more stuff off the cover -- a simple truth. There is nothing arrogant about that.

quote:
Stalk me all you want, little stevie. Keep on riding my coattails and gravy training off of me. You just ain't worth the time to respond to anymore. He's all yours Lane #1 forum. Good Luck!
 


LOL, it never ends. You threaten the ignore list, but back off. You refuse to respond to me anymore, but there is always a reply somewhere. The only thing consistent about you is that you bounce around without focus.  

Look, I can refer you to all the really nasty things a few posters recently called you in the Brunswick thread on the Misc forum. Nasty comments like 'worthless piece of skin' (one of the nicer) which for what it's worth was out of line. Regardless, I don't think you really understand how you're sometimes perceived. You wear too much pride on your shoulder, and you drip with ignorance -- the kind that hits people like sandpaper. Still, some of those comments were really over the top. Maybe it's that kind of global feedback that sets you off and makes you overly defensive.  

Honestly, if you ever want to have a rational discussion on a bowling subject where you're willing to accept some constructive criticism where it's due, I'd enjoy that. In the mean time, enjoy wherever you land here.

Edited on 4/1/2009 8:54 PM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on April 02, 2009, 09:58:35 AM
quote:
Again jls, here you are on another Lane 1 thread.

Are dumb or just plain stupid?

Nobody wants to hear your b.s. about Buzzsaws.

ARE WE CLEAR?
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Hey boy,  you tired of getting whipped on Misc.  so now you bring your filt here.  

get lost loser


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on April 02, 2009, 11:04:16 AM
CRD: Thanks for the last response. Even though it's still peppered with 6th grade insults, it's certainly an improvement over past posts. And I do want to compliment you on a few things that probably have more meaning than anything else.

First, I like what you said about preparing you kids for life. I forget which thread it was in, but your words were spot on. I hope they take your advice to heart.

Second, my sense is that you've always been completely honest about your background and accomplishments. I appreciate that you've never tried to position yourself above a 217 THS hack who's happy to limit his competition to after league pot games. You don't pretend that you've ever given the PBA Regional level a try, or from what I can tell, any other higher level competition that would test your skills. It's not that I find the fact that you shy from real competition admirable. But at least you don't try to dance around it. That's a honesty trait that more could learn from.

Of course, none of this changes your fundamental limitations regarding bowling. And it's a shame, because if you can average a THS 217 knowing little more than how to put your fingers in the ball, just think what you could accomplish if you tried to understand the technology aspects that could take your game to another level.....

BTW, even if you won't admit considering it in my presence, think about trying one of the diamond core based Lane#1 balls (the THS would be a good start). For bowlers like yourself who discount core (or don't want the core to appear to have influence), it's a very versatile piece. It will give you a good feel for what Lane#1 is really about. If you like it, the next logical step would be something like a Dynamo.

There's an old saying that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it. That's CRD in the nutshell. I'll still call you out for any really backward things you might present, but understand that it's more for the benefit of others. If you can take it to heart, then all the better.
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 02, 2009, 01:14:20 PM
quote:
How magnaminous of you.  That is really special.  I am glad you were able to stop polishing your Nobel Peace Prize for Humanitarian Purposes to give my life validation.  What a condescending turd you truly are. Beat it.


it's you who needs to beat it boy
people are tired of you no count existence, and you b!tch more than a menopausal women

you offer nothing positive to the world, and all you do is whine and complain and point fingers

your pathetic

your spent boy, now go on home
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Buddy Christ on April 02, 2009, 01:16:15 PM
So did you guys find out who's dick is bigger!?
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on April 02, 2009, 01:21:01 PM
quote:
quote:
How magnaminous of you.  That is really special.  I am glad you were able to stop polishing your Nobel Peace Prize for Humanitarian Purposes to give my life validation.  What a condescending turd you truly are. Beat it.


it's you who needs to beat it boy
people are tired of you no count existence, and you b!tch more than a menopausal women

you offer nothing positive to the world, and all you do is whine and complain and point fingers

your pathetic

your spent boy, now go on home
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Hey now B-dawg....

Speak for yourself... i'm not tired of CRD or Steven.  And how come you just told CRD to shove it....

"your spent"

Seems I heard that before.
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 02, 2009, 01:42:20 PM
yeah i put that in there in honor of you jls

im simply speaking of the vast majority of BR users, and crd, inverted and jls are all kinda in the same category

aZZ monkeys, and good for nothings

, and i bet inverted won the contest
just ask him he will tell you about it

you 3 need your selves a pecking order

we simpletons can't figure who is truly God amongst you

you all 3 claim to be God


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 02, 2009, 01:45:10 PM
quote:
yeah, mine is bigger but bowlerdawg IS the bigger one.


see what i mean

and there i thought inverted won, and yet you crd claim top prize

ok here is the order

jls = leader
inverted = middle
crd = LAST

now we know


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on April 02, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
quote:
quote:
yeah, mine is bigger but bowlerdawg IS the bigger one.


see what i mean

and there i thought inverted won, and yet you crd claim top prize

ok here is the order

jls = leader <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  I'm honored.
inverted = middle
crd = LAST

now we know


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 02, 2009, 02:50:15 PM
i do have connections with the electoral voters
hey thats what friends are for

it was not easy to get you elected leader of all things to do with trolling ( what with your record, but Dawg got it done for you )


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on April 02, 2009, 03:06:04 PM
quote:
i do have connections with the electoral voters
hey thats what friends are for

it was not easy to get you elected leader of all things to do with trolling ( what with your record, but Dawg got it done for you )


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Thankyou and my people thank you.

B-dawg,  your a pain in the butt,  but I must say,  you at least have the ability to actually address a topic.   Not always well....  just kidding...

And even though we don't always see eye to eye,  you don't come on and act like a big bad butt like DFR1542.  But then again, he is just a child surfing the net for porn while his mommy is at work...

Thankyou for pulling strings and getting me appointed "leader"

BTW,  leader of what again?  And is it cool with CRD and Inverted?

And are you responsible for Obama getting elected.


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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 02, 2009, 04:02:24 PM
to jls , and DFR is just calling em' like he sees them
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: Steven on April 02, 2009, 05:20:44 PM
quote:
How magnaminous of you. That is really special.  


CRD: Thanks. I've been told I'm that kind of guy. Glad to be of service.

quote:
I am glad you were able to stop polishing your Nobel Peace Prize for Humanitarian Purposes to give my life validation. What a condescending turd you truly are. Beat it.  


Gezz, I give you some accolades, and a break from being called a 'useless piece of skin', and this is the thanks I get? I feel like the guy who feeds a starving abused dog, and gets bit for the trouble. You're welcome.

In the spirit of the thread, are you at least going consider giving a Lane#1 ball or two a try? It could be worth it to you.

Edited on 4/2/2009 5:21 PM
Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: jls on April 02, 2009, 05:57:39 PM
quote:
quote:
How magnaminous of you. That is really special.  


CRD: Thanks. I've been told I'm that kind of guy. Glad to be of service.

quote:
I am glad you were able to stop polishing your Nobel Peace Prize for Humanitarian Purposes to give my life validation. What a condescending turd you truly are. Beat it.  


Gezz, I give you some accolades, and a break from being called a 'useless piece of skin', and this is the thanks I get? I feel like the guy who feeds a starving abused dog, and gets bit for the trouble. You're welcome.

In the spirit of the thread, are you at least going consider giving a Lane#1 ball or two a try? It could be worth it to you.

Edited on 4/2/2009 5:21 PM



Steven,  I don't think that will ever happen. Besides this site would be boring if you and CRD both used and like Lane One


LSJ
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Title: Re: Dynamo question
Post by: bowlerdawg on April 02, 2009, 06:37:04 PM
there will always be more trolls , so i disagree jls
if Steven and crd both loved L1 then it would be all good

can you feel the love ????????????
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Edited on 4/2/2009 7:33 PM