Post by: rico4life on September 29, 2009, 12:31:05 PM
Post by: charlest on September 29, 2009, 08:53:07 PM
FYI The stock surface is 1000 Abralon, not 4000 Abralon, according to several previous Lane#1 posts in this forum.
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Post by: triggerman on September 30, 2009, 07:26:02 AM
14 and 16# balls appear to be 4k abralon, they have a very nice shine to them
15# balls appear to be 2k abralon, my oob RD was almost identical surfacewise as my OOB dynamo
as far as surface prep, straight from lane #1 and Global (you know the guys that pour the cover)
they suggest
1k underlying grit, if you want 4k finish, skip the steps in between, go from 1k straight to 4k
if you are going to polish go from 1k abralon straight to the polish. I have done both and both seem to be very good adjustments
I personally for my game will go 500, 1k, 600 grit wetsand, 1500 wetsand and then slight polish, wasnt suited for the heavy stuff but for true mediums, i had the best luck at that surface
right now I have it at 1k plus ebo factory refinisher, its a tad early for me, but with the sucess I am having with the RD I will probably take the dynamo back to 1k abralon no polish and use it for heavier oils
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Post by: Shermster on October 06, 2009, 01:05:39 PM
Post by: Roy Munson on October 06, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
I've tried a lot of surface modifications with this ball and I found success with:
500 Abralon heavy hand, 1000 Abralon light hand, 3M Rubbing compound
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Post by: jls on October 08, 2009, 01:28:09 PM
Now if Trig thinks it's at 4000... That works for me...
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Post by: Roy Munson on October 08, 2009, 04:55:25 PM
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I was wondering what surface grit most people have on their dynamo's that they are having the most success with. I am considering take mine from 4000 abralon to maybe 1000 or 2000.
The poster does not ask the oob grit!
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Post by: jls on October 08, 2009, 05:07:46 PM
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You already took it from 1000 Abralon to 4000 Abralon?
FYI The stock surface is 1000 Abralon, not 4000 Abralon, according to several previous Lane#1 posts in this forum.
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Edited on 9/29/2009 9:24 PM
"The poster did not ask"
True, but notice this person believes the ball is at 1000 oob, and another person seems to think it is at 4000 oob...
So once again, one would think that after 9 months, someone from Lane One would come on and put this to rest....
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Post by: charlest on October 08, 2009, 06:21:45 PM
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You already took it from 1000 Abralon to 4000 Abralon?
FYI The stock surface is 1000 Abralon, not 4000 Abralon, according to several previous Lane#1 posts in this forum.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"The poster did not ask"
True, but notice this person believes the ball is at 1000 oob, and another person seems to think it is at 4000 oob...
So once again, one would think that after 9 months, someone from Lane One would come on and put this to rest....
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The Lane#1 cognoscenti led me to believe, via posts here on ballreviews.com, that, although the Dynamo on the Lane#1 web site was said to be surface finished to P4000 grit, it was, in reality, finished to P1000 grit. I do not have one. I did not measure one. Pardon me (incredible sarcasm intended) for believing what those in know are supposed to have known!
I cannot believe that 14 lb. Dynamos and 16 lb. Dynamos were finished to a different surface grit level than 15 lb. Dynamos. If my production people did that in a manufacturing environment I owned, I would have fired them, as soon as I had learned about it, and apologized profusely to every purchaser of my product, offering to buy it back or make it right, at my own expennse. That is, if I wished to continue in business.
This being bowling, who gives a crap?
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Post by: Steven on October 08, 2009, 07:38:29 PM
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The Lane#1 cognoscenti led me to believe, via posts here on ballreviews.com, that, although the Dynamo on the Lane#1 web site was said to be surface finished to P4000 grit, it was, in reality, finished to P1000 grit. I do not have one. I did not measure one. Pardon me (incredible sarcasm intended) for believing what those in know are supposed to have known!
charlest: Mine looked to be 1000 grit Abralon OOB. I've since finished it off at 2000 and 4000, and then back to 1000. My own finish at 1000 seems to be closest in appearance and reaction to original box. For THS conditions I see most, 2000 seems to be the sweet spot, so I'm leaving it there.
To this whole argument, my feeling is 'who cares?'. If you care about your surfaces, you're going to refresh them every 30 games or so. At that point, you take the opportunity to experiment with reactions between 1000-4000 and stick to what works best for you.
Post by: Gazoo on October 08, 2009, 09:47:58 PM
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You already took it from 1000 Abralon to 4000 Abralon?
FYI The stock surface is 1000 Abralon, not 4000 Abralon, according to several previous Lane#1 posts in this forum.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"The poster did not ask"
True, but notice this person believes the ball is at 1000 oob, and another person seems to think it is at 4000 oob...
So once again, one would think that after 9 months, someone from Lane One would come on and put this to rest....
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jls
The Lane#1 cognoscenti led me to believe, via posts here on ballreviews.com, that, although the Dynamo on the Lane#1 web site was said to be surface finished to P4000 grit, it was, in reality, finished to P1000 grit. I do not have one. I did not measure one. Pardon me (incredible sarcasm intended) for believing what those in know are supposed to have known!
I cannot believe that 14 lb. Dynamos and 16 lb. Dynamos were finished to a different surface grit level than 15 lb. Dynamos. If my production people did that in a manufacturing environment I owned, I would have fired them, as soon as I had learned about it, and apologized profusely to every purchaser of my product, offering to buy it back or make it right, at my own expennse. That is, if I wished to continue in business.
This being bowling, who gives a crap?
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Charlest,
I agree with your assessment on this subect. To let the appeareance that different weights had different grit levels is crazy.IMHO, what happend here is 500/4000 grit bowling ball. I suspect that companies have been doing it but it does look different than a ball taken up to 4000 from 500 each step.
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Post by: rico4life on October 08, 2009, 11:52:57 PM
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Post by: car191 on October 09, 2009, 10:52:07 AM
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I just wanted to update on this. Lane #1 sent me a email that said the oob finish on this ball is closer to 2000 abralon.
I also emailed Lane 1 back in March about the surface of the Dynamo and here is their reply to me
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Ron,
Thanks for checking out our website, hope you've enjoyed it. There are 5
steps in finishing the ball. Each step is 25 seconds going from 50
micron(240 grit), to 30 micron(400 grit), to 20 micron((500 grit), down
to 5 micron(1500 grit), then a 4000 abralon on the last step. But, in
our opinion, either the 4000 abralon pads are not fresh or there's not
enough time to get a true 4000 finish on the ball. So to answer your
question, it's probably somewhere in between. If you have any further
questions, please feel free to contact us again anytime by e-mail or
phone 1-800-Lane No.1 (526-3661). Thank you.
Seems according to this reply they weren't sure what exactly the OOB surface of the ball really was.
Ron
Post by: Roy Munson on October 09, 2009, 11:47:32 AM
"what surface grit most people have on their dynamo''s that they are having the most success with"
This is a very interesting subject and wish everyone put their input on the subject.
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Edited on 10/9/2009 11:49 AM
Post by: urbanj51 on October 09, 2009, 11:53:25 AM
Dynamo was hit with a 360 Abralon pad heavy and lightly finished at 4000 Abralon. Box finish is right in a sense. It is 4000 finished.
If you were to take a new 4000 pad to it, the surface would seem very different than OOB as it was just lightly finished with 4000 at production.
Everyone happy?
Now like Roy said.....back to the topic at hand.
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