Author Topic: End of the line for Lane 1 ? (Read 5083 times)

car191 · « **on:** June 13, 2009, 09:15:02 PM »

Here is a direct quote from SAW_EM_OFF (Kevin Blackmer , Lane 1 staffer)from the message board on the Lane 1 site

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well either of us "mike" or myself get paid to do any kind of promo or demo. now mike is a very busy business hit the grind kind of guy, he really doesn't have much time to even eat.lol but he does what he can.

me on the other hand i am 60% disabled veteran, who hasn't had a job in 7 months. i have even went into debt going out of my way doing the whole pro-shop -to pro-shop in houston and got no where fast. other then broker then broke. with no help from lane#1, all i got from them was and I quote " well we didn't ask you to do that" i will no longer go out of my way to do anything special. I will on the other hand for business like selling the lane#1 equipment which i have produced 98% of all sales in houston are through ME, person to person face to face sales. i have purchased almost 5,000 from lane#1 just this year alone and of course i have sold all that .

what bothers me is when i am told by lane#1 hey your gonna get this or your gonna get that and they don't deliver. well after a couple times of that then i pretty much don't hold my breath on anything.

now lets talked about some facts and maybe get prepared for what maybe coming.

1.it wasn't till feb or later when lane#1 said oh where not haveing a booth this year, but we all heard that form outside this forum. then richie posts it up.

2.then i was told that lane#1 was going bankrupt

3.then you dj, heard on other sites that theres no pba reg for lane#1,
well then when pressed by you guys richie come on the forum and lets us know, what is going on. if you noticed that change in his writeing and match that with course of actions i have just posted on number 2. richie stats the economy is bad, which we all know it sucks right now. but he also went on to saying that the BANK LOANS had caught up with the sales. that means when that happends it's the end of the road partner, if not then its not far away.

lane#1 is takeing some HUGE sales loss due to this mishap, which i wish richie the best.
its not easy for him to say no we can't do this summer. that is a tuff bullet to bite for any business owner who has molded this awesome company by his bare hands 18 years ago, well for those who know it really started before that even. anyways i'm not sure where lane#1 will be in the next season, but you know visionary has no registration but they have several offiicial staff players who get a lot of equipment. and there smaller then lane#1 mmmmmm.. whats wrong with that picture.

well i am not being ugly i am just letting those who don't know, KNOW!!
i'm not sure where i am going to be next JAN.

i wish everyone the very best. remember you can only change what you physically can touch.

kevin "

Looks like Richie and the boys are in serious financial trouble ,which is sad.

Roy Munson · « **Reply #16 on:** June 14, 2009, 09:36:22 PM »

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Interesting. I would never throw any lane 1 gear due to the way the guys on this board treat others.

hmmm
Interesting
and yet you troll in here often

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BeansProShop · « **Reply #17 on:** June 14, 2009, 09:38:45 PM »

I am a lifetime staff member and the only thing I have heard is that there are a few new releases in the works...

How does a company that is going out of business manage to keep releasing new products???

I don't know.....

A true staffer earns his contract....

He doesn't win it in a contest and then think he is an employee of the company...

Just my .02

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nextbowler · « **Reply #18 on:** June 14, 2009, 11:06:43 PM »

It is a fact that Lane 1 has had some very good bowling balls over the years.
Whether you want to pay what they charge is an individual decision. As a purely business decision, that I don't understand, I don't know why they would
not have a booth at nationals. I have been out there several times as a spec-
tator and the number of people shopping the halls is impressive. Supposedly
there are 20,000 teams entered. Don't bother to give me the costs involved,
the amount of people that see your products would be phenomenal.

bowlerdawg · « **Reply #19 on:** June 16, 2009, 10:23:33 AM »

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We'll never know if Kevin had a legit complaint or not..

All of you seem to be running to defend Richie and look to be discounting what Kevin has to say..

Not a bash, just an observation..
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L1 is fine
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #20 on:** June 16, 2009, 10:35:47 AM »

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I am a lifetime staff member and the only thing I have heard is that there are a few new releases in the works...

How does a company that is going out of business manage to keep releasing new products???

It is not the fact that products ARE released - it depends on the products themselves and the marketing... GM and Chrysler released and released cars, but never saw the signs from the market. This happens easily, or: the fact that products/services and market demands do not match (anymore) are recognized much too late - while lots of (wrong) stuff is still in the pipeline.
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ToiletLogCore · « **Reply #21 on:** June 16, 2009, 10:41:05 AM »

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ok lets clear the air

this guy was signed during the staffer promotion that lane 1 was running, he won the contest and was probably told every new release, his job was to sell their stuff and promote their goods, 5k in one year is crap, my dynamo order was that much, i dont do anything but online and i am 3 to 4x's that in a year on a good year.

my guess and it really is more then a guess is that during these slow economic times lane 1 (who runs in the black every year) is watching their pennies, a guy selling 5k a year and is getting every new ball for free is not doing a whole lot of good. lane 1 is very solvent and still runs in the black, but in order to insure future growth and continuation, company cuts must and often are made and people do get angry and hurt over them, most move on and go to the next deal but some like this "staffer" lash out in other ways. Ive seen my seed balls go by the wayside as well, but Richie and co. have always always taken care of me and for that reason I will continue to sell for them, will continue to use their stuff, and push it whenever I can. I dont get paid to do or say anything, my words and actions are all in accordance to what they have done for me. Loyality is a strange thing, either you have it or you dont.
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bowlerdawg · « **Reply #22 on:** June 16, 2009, 11:06:36 AM »

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ok lets clear the air

this guy was signed during the staffer promotion that lane 1 was running, he won the contest and was probably told every new release, his job was to sell their stuff and promote their goods, 5k in one year is crap, my dynamo order was that much, i dont do anything but online and i am 3 to 4x's that in a year on a good year.

my guess and it really is more then a guess is that during these slow economic times lane 1 (who runs in the black every year) is watching their pennies, a guy selling 5k a year and is getting every new ball for free is not doing a whole lot of good. lane 1 is very solvent and still runs in the black, but in order to insure future growth and continuation, company cuts must and often are made and people do get angry and hurt over them, most move on and go to the next deal but some like this "staffer" lash out in other ways. Ive seen my seed balls go by the wayside as well, but Richie and co. have always always taken care of me and for that reason I will continue to sell for them, will continue to use their stuff, and push it whenever I can. I dont get paid to do or say anything, my words and actions are all in accordance to what they have done for me. Loyality is a strange thing, either you have it or you dont.
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Any talk of moving production to Mexico, I hear it cuts costs GREATLY? Might help to make registration this season.
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mainzer · « **Reply #23 on:** June 16, 2009, 11:13:55 AM »

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Interesting. I would never throw any lane 1 gear due to the way the guys on this board treat others.

hmmm
Interesting
and yet you troll in here often

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Steven · « **Reply #24 on:** June 16, 2009, 12:32:28 PM »

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The warning signs are there, whether you'd like to admit it or not..

Inverted: And what are those warning signs? You're comparing Banger and Insite longevity to Lane#1, which doesn't make a lot of sense.

Read what Chuck posted over on BBE:

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Lane1 is here to stay regardless of what you hear I'll give it to you straight. The hard economic situation that this country is in has affected everyone, Lane#1 included so you take a look at some things and you cut back a bit. The PBA and it's money hungry group doesn't give breaks even to the small company so it's you pay what the big boys pay and that's it. Lane#1 decided we didn't need the PBA during the summer run so we cut back to save a bit over the slow summer months.

Next to prove we will be around, I'll be in Vegas next week at the Bowl Expo to show off our new release Dynamo X2 Hybrid also we have a surprise for everyone we are going to be showing off another new release something special that has been in the works for some time and should put Lane#1 in a very good postion in the bowling world. So for the select few individuals out there that are starting the rumors, well let's just say you heard it from the top of Lane#1 relaxe we are here to stay and we are still having a great time over here at Lane#1 thinking of ways to make great equipment...

So 2 new bowling balls will be released coming July and August.

You're hearing the above message straight from Lane#1. What more are you looking for?
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JOE FALCO · « **Reply #25 on:** June 16, 2009, 12:47:15 PM »

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Lane1 is here to stay regardless of what you hear I'll give it to you straight. The hard economic situation that this country is in has affected everyone, Lane#1 included so you take a look at some things and you cut back a bit. The PBA and it's money hungry group doesn't give breaks even to the small company so it's you pay what the big boys pay and that's it. Lane#1 decided we didn't need the PBA during the summer run so we cut back to save a bit over the slow summer months.

Don't want to get into a pis-ing contest BUT that's not to smart a remark coming from a company that sells a product for the highest price around!
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bowlerdawg · « **Reply #26 on:** June 16, 2009, 01:03:18 PM »

CGsSuK the thunder is coming
just ask your boy CRd

and inverted, why do i bother..............
you do have a valid point, i won't deny that in the least.

not saying it's relevant to L1, but your point is valid and so noted
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Steven · « **Reply #27 on:** June 16, 2009, 04:01:44 PM »

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Lane#1 send outs a "everything's OK" memo out to the FOS and you guys take it as gospel.

I think part of it is that we've been through this before. After Lane#1 parted ways with BigB and Columbia was sucked up by Ebonite, Lane#1 was in limbo. The 'Chicken Littles' were predicting Lane#1 going belly up. Worse yet, the BR trolls were frothing at the mouth and were otherwise in a frenzy.

But like Chuck's communication now, Lane#1 came onto the boards and said everything was going to be OK. They indicated they had a plan. Better yet, they lived up to everything stated to the FOS. History says they live up to what the say, so why not assign some credibility?

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Honestly, I hope Lane#1 does make it and is OK.

I believe you. Where else are you going to camp out in BR?

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kcbruns300 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2009, 04:34:57 PM »

I think the biggest problems revolve around the fact that Lane 1 is not product registered with PBA. Us pro shop guys are just supposed to follow blindly with the Lane 1 movement with no response of performance from our pros. When a driller doesn't have credible feedback we don't want to help push a product like Lane 1, we'll offer it, but probably won't recommend it. In certain areas, Lane 1 is a huge success due to word of mouth, but not so with the masses.

The fact that they are not product registered has also brought about all this animosity. Jealousy, if you will, of the larger companies and their apparent ease to sell equipment. Lane 1 is always going to feel like this little ant that the industry is standing over with a magnifying lens. Part of this is just the way the industry is and part of it is brought on by the patrons of Lane 1 and their remarks towards people on these boards. I wish all the animosity would stop personally. It gets us nowhere. There's enough room in the industry for everyone to get along.
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bowlerdawg · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2009, 04:40:20 PM »

i said your point was valid numbnutz.........
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bowlerdawg · « **Reply #30 on:** June 16, 2009, 04:57:28 PM »

lol
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