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JPRLane1

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F.O.S. Members JPR needs help!
« on: October 25, 2005, 05:33:45 AM »
Well guys I am sitting here toying of the Idea of selling all my NIB stuff.  The truth is I am a really bad bowler right now and I don't see myself improving.  At my best I shot 700 once and 600 4 or 5 times and only carried a 180 average.  Its not a slump and I don't have to motivation to make myself better.  I bowl one league a week handicap 3 games and thats it no practice no nothing.  My day time job is a joke but I still have to show up which leaves this time out for practice and now I work two nights and one weekend day at the shop so my free time is less than normal.  Could I practice if I wanted to sure but I don't.  I love bowling, I love technology and thats why I am leaning towards drilling and coaching so I can stay part of the game itself and push my own physical game to the side.  I want to be involved in bowling the rest of my life I want to make others games better and I know my own personal limitations.  So what should I do should I sell or hold, I am kinda tired of holding them.  As I see it if I punch every ball I have and throw them the normal 15 or 20 games before I decide to let them go am i not just ruining them for the true bowler or the true collector.  The balls old and new would include:
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1. PRO PURPLE BUZZSAW x 2, 2to3 pin and 3to4 pin
2. Cherry Pearl C2, 3 pin
3. Cherry Bomb Pearl, 3to4 pin
4. Blueberry, 3to4 pin
5. Solid Uranium, 2to3 pin
6. Tsunami, 3to4 pin
7. Golden Nugget, 3to4 pin
8. Dirty Bomb, 3to4 pin
9. Hybrid Dirty Bomb, 3to4 pin

***I think to make myself feel better I will sale all the current production balls I have.
$150 shipped to the US.
Dirty Bomb, Sold to Mediumrevs.
Hybrid Dirty Bomb
Solid Uranium
Tsunami
$225 shipped for the 2to3 pin PRO Purple, SOld MI 2 AZ.


I could punch them and I throw it good enough to get a feel for the balls but why waste them on my game.  I am not sure if I will ever quit bowling all together I quit once and came back with renewed energy but that only lasted for about a year.  If i continue to bowl or quit and come back it doesn't matter because all their new stuff is awesome too.  So guys what would you all do in my shoes.  I spent time and top dollar collecting these but I just don't see the point anymore.

***Thanks for everything guys.  Right now I am keeping the old balls for sure I am still undecided about the newer ones.  I did agree to sell one of the pro purples since i had two of them and I did agree to sell the pealr dirty bomb since mediumrevs needed one after having his equipment stolen.  I will hang on to the other new ones for the time being.  
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Re: F.O.S. Members JPR needs help!
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2005, 01:39:23 PM »
Keep em.. If and when you get coaching lessons, you will see your game improve alot.. And then you will wonder, WHAT IF I KEPT... so keep em until this time next year.
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Re: F.O.S. Members JPR needs help!
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2005, 01:42:04 PM »
which one is for dry/med conditions?

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2005, 01:45:11 PM »
I don't really see a problem with holding on to them and punching them up. While some like the pro-purple could be considered "collector pieces", I know if I had them I wouldn't be keeping them NIB. I would eventually drill them and throw them. To me it makes no sense to not drill a ball.

That being said, I don't think you would ruin anything for the "true" bowler. I've never bought a ball with the intent to not drill it(with the exception of my FSU ball). What I would do, save one of the Pro-purple's as a "momento", display it, but punch the other stuff up and try it out.

That is a nice collection you have, and I wouldn't sell them unless you have to. Have you ever thrown a Nugget? Or the Pro-purple? I'd hate for you to give them up without ever giving any of those a shot(if you've never thrown them).
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Re: F.O.S. Members JPR needs help!
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2005, 01:46:35 PM »
I got coaching once for a few months straight and threw the ball wonderfully in practice with my coach and it never carried over to league,  I always lapse back or get nervous and tight it never fails.  I guess the way I look at it is I would rather help other people I guess thats taking the easy way out.  If there was a magic pill that made me a 200 average bowler fine I would take it but otherwise I don't think I will ever be serious about my game.  I think I am selling the current produced balls afterall should I need one I can just order it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2005, 01:50:56 PM »
Jesse,

I know how you feel. I can tell you from personal experience in this exact situation (except instead of NIB Lane#1, I have like 40 random balls). I understand that this game is frustrating, but you gotta stick with it. Trust me, if I can be as good as I am, you can definately excel...and it shouldn't take NEARLY as long as it took me. You know that I've been bowling for about 14-15 years, and up until about 3 years ago, I royally SUCKED! I'd really hate to see you next summer without your Lane#1 stuff...c'mon man. Maybe you're just not doing the right stuff. I want ya to gimme a call today man. We'll talk about all this. I know a few things that might really help you improve your game. And as for the equipment...don't be dumb like me. Back when I went into a slump my last year of youth, I felt the same way. And because of it, I got rid of my whole collection of NIB Columbia300 Cuda/C, Stingray, and Piranha series (except the NIB Stingray I kept). I'd spent sooo much money getting a full collection, and in a few weeks...all gone! If I could go back, HA! I'd take 'em all back so quickly. But I guess we all learn from our mistakes. We all know how much you love the sport, and we all mean what we say...Don't get rid of your saws, the F.O.S. needs ya man. I wouldn't even be a part of this if it wasn't for you! Gimme a call and we'll talk about whatever: bowling, drinking, or BoTatoes!

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JPRLane1

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Re: F.O.S. Members JPR needs help!
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2005, 01:56:37 PM »
Chazman good points yes I have thrown the nugget had one when it came out and loved it.  I have thrown the Pro purple tried it used so i would know about the NIB ones.  Only ball i have never thrown that I have currently is the cherry C2.  Other balls I have enver thrown but don't have are Super carbide, Carbide Pearl, Carbide Solid, Comet and Black Orig. and Black/C.  I have thrown at one time every other ball they have made I believe.  I understand your thinking and share it somewhat.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2005, 02:02:57 PM »
If you don't need the money, I would sit on them a while and see if you change your mind. They are not going to get any less valuable, which is one of the advantages of Lane #1. I go through the same thing, I wouldn't call it a slump, just frustration and depression.

I got some help by joining an unsanctioned (Blow Off League), this league is full of bowlers who are far more concerned with bracket money on the side than the team results and scores. I have designated it my "strictly for fun" league. I enter the night with an goal to have nothing but fun, I try different lines, ball change more often (sometimes every frame) and never get involved with the side betting. I start the night expecting to bowl lower numbers than I would normally accept and always do, but it has really helped my bowling in my remaining leagues. I also find that it has taken some of the edge off of my nerves and really allows me to blow of steam and take my scores a little less personally.

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Re: F.O.S. Members JPR needs help!
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2005, 02:04:02 PM »
I figured you had thrown the equipment before. It's just hard to see a hardcore FOS member willing to sell away his collection(even if they are the current production ones).

But I do completely understand where you are coming from. Good luck with whatever you decided ultimately to do.

If I had the money currently I would probably take the Tsunami off your hands, but cash is kinda tight for me(translation=wife won't give me the money)
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2005, 02:04:59 PM »
Good points bomb guy.
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2005, 02:07:06 PM »
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If you don't need the money, I would sit on them a while and see if you change your mind. They are not going to get any less valuable, which is one of the advantages of Lane #1. I go through the same thing, I wouldn't call it a slump, just frustration and depression.

I got some help by joining an unsanctioned (Blow Off League), this league is full of bowlers who are far more concerned with bracket money on the side than the team results and scores. I have designated it my "strictly for fun" league. I enter the night with an goal to have nothing but fun, I try different lines, ball change more often (sometimes every frame) and never get involved with the side betting. I start the night expecting to bowl lower numbers than I would normally accept and always do, but it has really helped my bowling in my remaining leagues. I also find that it has taken some of the edge off of my nerves and really allows me to blow of steam and take my scores a little less personally.

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I have the same thing...my Sunday league (check my profile for bowling journal). As you can see (except first week), my scores are WAYYYYY lower than Tuesday nights in the exact same house. I know that I bowl better on second shifts, but not by 60 a game on average. It really does help me (as my scores have shown in my other two leagues). Just don't let the frustration overcome ya man...

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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2005, 02:13:03 PM »
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Jesse, i thought you had a NIB emerald too?
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Some other type of what was supposed to be a Pearl Uranium
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Purple Carbide Bomb


Never could find one, doug does, I had a used one I let go to a buddy locally.  I am off ot the shop guys,  keep it ocming I be home aorund 9:30.  Will I call you when I am free tonight man.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2005, 02:25:59 PM »
Jessie,
Im not one who posts much, but I thought I would Chime in a bit.

This may sound silly, but most of us do have some night off where we just play around with our game.  A few years back, I just could not get over that 180-185 mark to save my life.  Just for a change of pace, I joined a Cosmic bowling league, and averaged over deuce.  Don't let not making progress for a few months or a year, really bring you down.  Sooner or later, everyone will hit a peak for a period of time, until something changes.  Where im currently stationed at, no one around here has "glow bowl" so I shoot 9 pin no-tap almost every Friday night.  Not necessarily there looking for great scores, but I love trying new things, and playing around.  Ive been where you’re at, and even now your taking it much better then I did, I just threw all my stuff in the river  To this day, I regret it, and wish I had some of that equipment back.  I can't really say much about the team your bowling with now, but maybe look into bowling with people more interested in having fun, rather then worrying about how many points you can take each week.  

If all else fails, put your equipment away for a month or two, and give yourself a break.  Sometimes the best thing to do is give yourself a break.

Good luck with your decision; you’re a great guy, and one of the few people on this site I look to when im lost about a ball.  Just remember how many people you have already helped on this site and the entire FOS, with your great attitude.  Heck seriously, for the longest time, ive been intimidated by you, because you know so much about the equipment it’s sick.

Anyways, keep in there boss, your a heck of a guy, and a heck of a bowler (scores don't mean crap) you will get better, but it may just take you a touch longer then someone who can live at an alley practicing everyday.  But with your great knowledge of the game, you’re destined for success.

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Re: F.O.S. Members JPR needs help!
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2005, 02:39:03 PM »
You have a lot going for you.

Breakfast of the week is king.  With that you've helped me gain 5 pounds this month alone.

You also are this months winner of our "look like Robert Smith throw like Jane(or luckylefty) prize".  Your gift a $3 dollar gift certicate at Hardees.  That's right! That is 3 Sausage bicuits!!

As to your bowling.  It is beautiful in its flowing and fundamentally musclebound fashion...(you have been reading my "How to flex up and throw real slow book of bowling")  This method of bowling while not being is precise as a free armswing does a beautiful job of displaying our finely chiseled physics!  IT also generates a large amount of speed(topping out at nearly 11 mph) and a huge amount of revs for that speed.  Say 13 or 14 per lane!

These statistics compare favorably to other muscular fellows who are built like if not me certainly yourself.  Notably Robert Smith at 20 mph and about 24 revs dwon the lane...Relatively speaking you have MORE REVS per mph of speed than he does.  Do  the math  13/11 versus 24/20.  Close but you are the winner.

AND while throwing using the muscled style that you and I have sought you are displaying a lot more Tri, bi, lat and shoulder than the aforementioned muscled but free armwinging non muscle displayin Robert Smith!!!

Maybe it's time for HIM to learn our style of bowling instead of the other way around!  Note as you have found out by now!!!!!  Chicks dig a buff guy flexin all the way up the approach!  He probably wouldn't even know what you were talkin about if you said  "Chicks dig a flexed guy while bowling!"

Of course he wouldn't.

REgards,

LUckylefty
PS in all seriousness...to succeed throwing like you and I do today takes only one thing....more free flowing speed and relaxation.  I made some progress when you saw me and have been making more with my teacher up here!
It is possible to speed up and the game gets a lot easier with free speed today!  Stick with it!  I am...just imagine what I would do if I used Lane#1 though!!!!
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Re: F.O.S. Members JPR needs help!
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2005, 05:16:42 PM »
JPR, I have to agree with most of the other replies here. The key is, if you don't really need the money for something more important, why be in a rush to sell them. I sold about 10 of my saws a while back when I dropped to 14 pounds & then when that didn't work out I had to buy all new. Mine were all drilled & not NIB gems like you have though.
Another thing, who says you have to be a 200 average bowler to enjoy the game & use the best equipment available. Bowling once a week with no practice would be hard maintaining a high average let alone improving your game. My opinion is you should just hang in there a while like you are doing & see if a financial change or a work schedule change goes in your favor. Who knows, maybe you'll have more time to practice & your game & attitude about the game will improve. If not, just send them all to me & I'll even pay shipping!!
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