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First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« on: April 13, 2008, 06:14:03 PM »
I was going to just sit back and not jump in, but since all the hype cost me $200 plus a lot of pain, I finally decided I just can't sit here and give the BustBomb a free pass.

This review is short and sweet. It is neither for the Lane 1 lovers nor the Lane 1 haters. Both are fringe groups whose opinion doesn't really matter.
This is for the normal guy, like myself, who heard all the build up and may be on the sidelines waiting to buy... Here's an honest review from my first Lane 1 purchase....

There is nothing special about this ball. Save your money. This ball is DOA 99% of the time. I believe I gave it an honest shot. I tried it in four houses plus Nationals, after a 2 week wait for the ball. I tried every possible option, 2 different drills, and every possible surface level from 600 to 4000.
It was at all times a purple marshmellow.
Look back through these threads and you'll even see where I tried to help people figure this thing out before drilling mine. Why oh why was I stupid enough to drill it up after hearing all the bad news? Like I said... no one's fault but my own. Caveat emptor, right?

For me, the BuzzBUST was a total waste of time and money. Another experiment gone bad. Props to the Lane 1 hype crew, you got me. I was tired of Big B and wanted to try something new. I did. I paid for it in more ways than one. So now, it'll go on Ebay this week.

There is, of course, no magic ball.

Funny thing though. After losing big time on the BustBomb, I talked myself into trying another new ball from another new company I've never thrown. Still had courage to try a new company I guess. But this time, I chose a ball based on percentage of positive reviews from average people not associated with the brand and stayed away from choosing balls where there was massive controversy. Wow, what a ball... OOB, it turns out to be what I expected from the BuzzBust. I'm headed to the Roto Grip forum now to give it the props it deserves. I need to give time to the positive as well as the negative.
Lane 1 lovers, write your garbage below this. It won't matter. I'm not going to be back on this forum, so will "regrettably" never see it.

I'm out.
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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2008, 09:34:47 PM »
You can't judge by strictly BR.com

Did anyone read the Bowler's Journal review of the ball by Joey Cerar??

An unbiased 3rd party ball reviewer.

I have a customer who's Pluto out hooks the cell by an arrow and his neptune out hooks them both.  What does this mean??? That the Cell is a dud???

This will be a never ending debate that the Lane#1 folks will always come out on the bottom because it is just FUN to bash our company.

I will be more than happy to help anyone that is looking for it but I will no longer feed the people that just like ruffling feathers.

There are ways to give reviews....Good or bad with class.

Why give classless reviews??? They help nobody.

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2008, 01:12:32 AM »
I have both the Cell anf the Buzzbomb...The Cell i can actually swing the shot and the ball comes back to pocket but as for the Buzzbomb, the best line for me is straight up 10 board...and both shots results in explosive strikes...just my 2cts...
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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2008, 08:57:22 AM »
In league last night .. as expected there was plenty of oil .. had my LevRG and a first try with the BuzzBomb.

Started with the BB and struck the 1st frame followed by a good hit leaving a converted one pin spare. Next .. in the pocket (unmake-able split). Fourth and fifth frame repeat frame 3. Put the ball away in the sixth frame and finished with 182. Second and third games were 220 and 224 .. looks like the BuzzBomb will sit on a shelf for a while!

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2008, 09:56:24 AM »
DC38 hs thesme experience I m hving with my second Buzzbomb.  It plays down and in well, but I'm not having any luck swinging the ball.  Its much better then the first Buzzbomb nd I can use and stay with the Buzzbomb longer then the Cell, but the Buzzbomb will not cover the boards the Cell will or handle the oil the Cell will.  So in retrospect, I'm currently using the Buzzbomb much more then I'm using the Cell.  Yes the Cell is  great ball, but rarely do we have the oil to use it.


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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2008, 10:10:47 AM »
Beans,

You stated this..

I have a customer who's Pluto out hooks the cell by an arrow and his neptune out hooks them both. What does this mean??? That the Cell is a dud???

Being a pro shop owner and such, you should know pretty much the answer to this or the "probable" answer to this.  Not a very strong statement from a pro shop owner that is for sure.


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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2008, 12:47:27 PM »
i agree...i dont think cg shift means more core tilt nomaddah which companies core it is...
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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2008, 02:05:39 PM »
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Beans,

You stated this..

I have a customer who's Pluto out hooks the cell by an arrow and his neptune out hooks them both. What does this mean??? That the Cell is a dud???

Being a pro shop owner and such, you should know pretty much the answer to this or the "probable" answer to this.  Not a very strong statement from a pro shop owner that is for sure.


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Sir,
I was making a point to the average Joe. I know why it does that. BUT...It is the same reason that the Buzzbomb will look like it under performs for people. Too strong a cover with too much surface. After I took the Cell to 2000 with some Sauce it out performed both other planet balls. I know why they did not perform. No need to second guess my experience and knowledge. It was posted as a question and on purpose.

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2008, 02:13:36 PM »
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What is a replacement ball we made???

Just curious what you mean...

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Beans Lane1 replaced several Buzz Bomb balls to guys right here on this site so something was wrong with them or he would not have replaced them. Lane1 is to be commended for doing that , but like I said some balls don't work for all bowlers and there is such a thing as a defectvely made ball





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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2008, 02:13:44 PM »
I give up. I will just keep drilling Lane#1 the correct way and have people like them and you can drill them your own way and have people bring them back to you and complain about them. I do not know what else to say to you guys...

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2008, 02:27:11 PM »
Beans,

I must appologize as I reread it and I did misread it and for that I appologize.

I personally have no ill will towards Lane 1 but do find it a bit interesting that both sides are so "hysterical?" about their views...sort of like a political debate that we usually have here..*laugh*

It seems strange to me that some of the reviews have stated about the same thing and from some pretty decent reviewers about the lack of movement and such.  I don't think it is rocket science to drill a Lane #1 ball and am a bit perplexed by so many negative reviews. Something that may help out would be to see video's from the reviews showing the ball reaction that is for sure.  

Again my humblest appologies and I will read a couple times before I post a silly post...


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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —


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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2008, 02:41:55 PM »
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What is a replacement ball we made???

Just curious what you mean...

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Beans Lane1 replaced several Buzz Bomb balls to guys right here on this site so something was wrong with them or he would not have replaced them. Lane1 is to be commended for doing that , but like I said some balls don't work for all bowlers and there is such a thing as a defectvely made ball





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Carl... I agree with you except on the there must be a problem with them. You know we are known for our customer satisfaction...Richie did that for the company and the customer not becasue they were defective. He also wanted the balls back to see what may have been the problem. Not bashing here but how many Fury's do you think Brunswick took back becasue they rolled like crap?? It happens.. I am just not aware of any bad pours or such. I have drilled balls from 4 different batches already between my shop and the booth and have not had anyone suspect a bad cover.

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2008, 02:45:04 PM »
quote:
Beans,

I must appologize as I reread it and I did misread it and for that I appologize.

I personally have no ill will towards Lane 1 but do find it a bit interesting that both sides are so "hysterical?" about their views...sort of like a political debate that we usually have here..*laugh*

It seems strange to me that some of the reviews have stated about the same thing and from some pretty decent reviewers about the lack of movement and such.  I don't think it is rocket science to drill a Lane #1 ball and am a bit perplexed by so many negative reviews. Something that may help out would be to see video's from the reviews showing the ball reaction that is for sure.  

Again my humblest appologies and I will read a couple times before I post a silly post...


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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —






I did not take it personal as I can see how you read it like you did. No problem. It does get comical at times but we take the worst of all the bashing. It is well known that we have the best forum here. That is why everyone comes to this room first. 90% of the people that come here first do not even own Lane#1 balls. This is why it is so funny to me.

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2008, 03:26:57 PM »
I do not own a Buzzbomb, probably never will (too expensive for my tastes) I do however have a Fury.  I wish I could understand the reasoning behind buying any 'strong' ball and putting a Weak low-flare drilling on it.  Does this not defeat the purpose of the 'Strong' ball?  I am not sure how my Fury is drilled but I believe it is a fairly strong drilling (I got it used from my ball driller) After some experimentation with surface this ball is a MONSTER almost everywhere.  I currently have used it on a flood to light-med.  Maybe, just maybe people ARE drilling these 'hook monsters' wrong therefore causing them to be duds.

Proshop operators are usually some of the most patient people in the world but, they are there to sell balls.  If a customer demands something drilled a certain way, even after being told that is the wrong drilling, then it is the customers fault.  

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2008, 03:32:02 PM »
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I wish I could understand the reasoning behind buying any 'strong' ball and putting a Weak low-flare drilling on it.  Does this not defeat the purpose of the 'Strong' ball?
A strong ball with a strong drill would be TOO strong for most lane conditions for me.  It would flare too hard and react too aggressively off the dry and be prone to burning up.  However, taking a strong ball and putting a weaker drill on it gives me more control, more versatility, and still gives me a ball capable of handling higher volumes of oil and carrydown.  For example, my pin up Special Agent with the pin 5 1/4" from my PAP is my go-to ball.  While not a super weak drill, it's still theoretically pretty week.  However, it's smooth off the spot, gets down the lane well when there's some head oil, has great pin action, and can handle anything from medium-light to heavy oil conditions for me if necessary with some minor surface changes.

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Re: First Lane 1, last Lane 1, Bye bye BuzzBust
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2008, 04:38:27 PM »
Maybe I am doing things wrong....

Before I buy a ball, I go to the Manufacturers Website and read up on it.  I look at all the info on the ball including the drill sheets.  I may even take in a video or 2 of someone throwing the ball (if avail).  If I know anyone that has the ball I ask if they like it.   I then decide whether to buy the ball or not.

Once I have the ball and get it drilled with the pattern I want <--- (keyword here) I throw it and begin surface adjustments.  I have not plugged a ball in years.  If I don't like the reaction after surface adjustments I usually park the ball.  I am fortunate in the fact that I do not usually pay for equipment, my ball driller and I have the same span/finger/thumb.  I usually take the stuff he doesn't like.

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