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Title: For display only..
Post by: OddBalls on May 04, 2010, 07:57:51 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lane-1-Curve-Pearl-Buzzsaw-Bowling-Ball-16-NEW-NIB-/150438036873?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Bowling&hash=item2306ce4589

Seller claims that L#1 made a mistake in marking these "for display only".

I'm thinking..they didn't..

The ball has 5oz of top weight..

What do you think??
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: bowlingnut76 on May 04, 2010, 03:59:38 PM
i got a 15lb one coming in soon cant wait to get it
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: bowlingnut76 on May 04, 2010, 04:00:26 PM
for the price 100 bucks shipped i cant complain
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: OddBalls on May 04, 2010, 04:00:44 PM
quote:
i got a 15lb one coming in soon cant wait to get it
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Did you buy one that said "for display only?"
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: OddBalls on May 04, 2010, 04:01:49 PM
quote:
for the price 100 bucks shipped i cant complain
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Well, not if you can't get the ball legal specs even at $100
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: OddBalls on May 04, 2010, 05:03:23 PM
Where are all the L#1 Gurus??


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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: themagician on May 04, 2010, 05:08:31 PM
The balls are marked for display only because they are essentially a blem for some reason and are given to the pro shops for very little if any cost, they are not to sold or distributed and are intended for what they are marked as, DISPLAY ONLY.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Strider on May 04, 2010, 05:27:42 PM
There was a post 2-3 weeks ago from someone wanting drilling instructions for a ball from another manufacturer that had 7 oz top weight.  Apparently, some number of balls come out bad (too bad for a blem I guess), so they are stamped "For Display Only".  Supposedly sold very cheap to pro shops to use as displays (go figure).  There was a debate as to whether these are legal for sanctioned leagues/tournaments, but don't know if it was every answered accurately.  Anyway, other manufacturers make these as well.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: don coyote on May 04, 2010, 05:35:57 PM



How do you remove the excess top weight out of a ball like that?
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Strider on May 04, 2010, 08:50:45 PM
That's the point.  With such odd specs, why would you bother to try?  I guess you could the CG on or near the thumb, drill an interchangeable thumb slug (big hole) extra deep with a crater weight hole very near.  But why bother?  Too many good balls out there to drill a freak just because it's cheap.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: jkiser01 on May 04, 2010, 10:20:54 PM
Seriously who in their right mind would pay $109 + ship for a ball with those kind of specs.. Even at $100 shipped, no way its worth taking the chance, IMO.

There are WAY better balls out there with very good specs for LESS money..
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Juggernaut on May 04, 2010, 10:37:27 PM
Five ounces of topweight may restrict your options, but can still be made legal pretty easily.

 Now HIGHER topweights might begin to be a problem, but since you are allowed a maximum of three ounces topweight after drilling, it shouldn't be too hard to get it there. Just drill it label and make the finger/thumb holes extra deep.  If it is still over, just add a small hole on the label until it IS legal.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: The Bowlers Edge 2 on May 04, 2010, 11:20:53 PM
got a 505c x-out with 5 oz of top a few weeks ago, double thumb layout and rolls and hits amazing with a big big hole next to the thumb
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: T C 300 on May 05, 2010, 12:25:21 AM
do you ppl not realize how many oz's you drill out when drilln fingers and thumb...?!?!?!??

a lil xtra top weight isnt a bad thing....(thats b4 drilling for u slloooowwww ppl)
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: T C 300 on May 05, 2010, 12:27:45 AM
i do really really like the way this ball looks....
LOLOL
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: TheFreeAgent on May 05, 2010, 01:17:34 AM
talked to the owner of lane 1 nothing wrong with them.  I love how people thing high top weight it soo bad Its hilarious. 5 ozs of top weight is nothing 90% of that is gone in the fingers and thumb alone.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: TheFreeAgent on May 05, 2010, 01:18:21 AM
FYI lane 1 doesnt make their own stuff. So no way Lane 1 could of messed up anything. Blame 900 Global for that
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Strider on May 05, 2010, 05:50:14 AM
Well, the other example I was talking about had over 7 oz of top.  That's a little hard to deal with.  5 is doable, but limits your options.  Not everyone uses inserts, so you don't remove near as much weight if your fingers are half the size of a standard insert hole.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: dizzyfugu on May 05, 2010, 09:59:42 AM
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So, then these are Lane#1 "blems"??
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Good Times Good Times on May 05, 2010, 10:16:50 AM
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So, then these are Lane#1 "blems"??
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: OddBalls on May 05, 2010, 11:15:27 AM
quote:
quote:
So, then these are Lane#1 "blems"??
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: bowlerdawg on May 05, 2010, 08:05:24 PM
quote:
quote:
quote:
So, then these are Lane#1 "blems"??
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LOLZ..only 5 pin increase in average..lol..


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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: completebowler on May 06, 2010, 09:30:21 AM
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talked to the owner of lane 1 nothing wrong with them.  I love how people thing high top weight it soo bad Its hilarious. 5 ozs of top weight is nothing 90% of that is gone in the fingers and thumb alone.
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No actuallly only about 60% will be removed with finger and thumb holes. Problem is that you are limited in your layouts or else your top weight will become side/finger/thumb weight. Then a HUGE hole.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: TheFreeAgent on May 06, 2010, 12:21:00 PM
quote:
quote:
talked to the owner of lane 1 nothing wrong with them.  I love how people thing high top weight it soo bad Its hilarious. 5 ozs of top weight is nothing 90% of that is gone in the fingers and thumb alone.
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No actuallly only about 60% will be removed with finger and thumb holes. Problem is that you are limited in your layouts or else your top weight will become side/finger/thumb weight. Then a HUGE hole.
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Sorry typo I dont think the static weight limit will be around much longer. Also  a huge hole isnt bad, I dont see how people come in a say I dont want a weight hole. Its bowling a lot of layouts require a hole.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: bowlingnut76 on May 06, 2010, 04:49:34 PM
mine has 5oz of top weight.. giving it to my dad for fathers day think it will be ok..
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: OddBalls on May 06, 2010, 04:58:25 PM
quote:
mine has 5oz of top weight.. giving it to my dad for fathers day think it will be ok..
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According to the L#1 gurus..static weights are EVERYTHING when it come to ball reaction.

I certainly think you drilling options may be limited with that much top weight. BUT, I'm no expert on this..
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: bowlingnut76 on May 06, 2010, 05:23:55 PM
yea didn't realize it was a bblem wouldn't really think it was a blem if it wasn't for the top weight but again its drill able and its not for me so im happy with but i will be cautious in the future about display only balls this will be my last ourchase of those balls

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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Steven on May 06, 2010, 05:45:22 PM
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According to the L#1 gurus..static weights are EVERYTHING when it come to ball reaction.


Well, certainly not EVERYTHING, but they do play a role many don't want to embrace. I recently shot a multi-300 in league with a Dynamo-X2. They had temporarily removed the 5 extra boards on the lane, so it couldn't have been that. So I'm guessing the properly laid out statics played into the reaction. Or could it simply been the diamond core?  
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: raiderh20boy on May 06, 2010, 06:00:43 PM
Bring that ball to my shop and I'll drill it to comply with "Todays" legal weights issue...BUT If there isn't the USBC* on it I won't touch it!
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: bowlingnut76 on May 06, 2010, 06:37:03 PM
oh its got the usbc name and number on it

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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: jls on May 07, 2010, 05:19:36 PM
Not a mistake... The balls may have a long pin or very heavy top weight...

Global puts "for display only"  and usually GIVES them to pro shops to display..

And then they can special order the ball if they get any calls for it...

Seen this on AMF balls also...

Not a mistake, and they usually give them to the shops at NO CHARGE...

Another ebay liar...................


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Edited on 5/7/2010 5:22 PM
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: sigmaphi9 on May 07, 2010, 06:10:48 PM
Should be simple enough for someone from Global 900 to verify.
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Not a mistake... The balls may have a long pin or very heavy top weight...

Global puts "for display only"  and usually GIVES them to pro shops to display..

And then they can special order the ball if they get any calls for it...

Seen this on AMF balls also...

Not a mistake, and they usually give them to the shops at NO CHARGE...

Another ebay liar...................


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Edited on 5/7/2010 5:22 PM
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: jls on May 08, 2010, 11:34:58 AM
quote:
Should be simple enough for someone from Global 900 to verify.
quote:
Not a mistake... The balls may have a long pin or very heavy top weight...

Global puts "for display only"  and usually GIVES them to pro shops to display..

And then they can special order the ball if they get any calls for it...

Seen this on AMF balls also...

Not a mistake, and they usually give them to the shops at NO CHARGE...

Another ebay liar...................


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Edited on 5/7/2010 5:22 PM





Yes it should be...

So if anyone is in doubt, simply call them...
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: BeansProShop on May 08, 2010, 12:35:38 PM
quote:



How do you remove the excess top weight out of a ball like that?


You can drill a large hole through the CG and plug it with wizard or another very light ball plug..

That would probably remove some..

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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Doug Sterner on May 08, 2010, 10:12:47 PM
The seller of these balls is our old buddy kidace1/ drillwizard so maybe a call to him will get the answers you seek.


As I see it the one 16# has 6 oz of top wt with a 4-5" pin and not to mention the ball's color is wayyyyy off from a regular Curve.

So marked as such due to the combination of color and specs would be my guess.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Adrenaline on May 09, 2010, 12:07:05 AM
If they are giving these away, are there any of you Pro Shop guys that can get them, and sell them to us for a reasonable price?  Like something in the 40-50 range?
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: bowlerdawg on May 09, 2010, 05:54:30 PM
oh boy
big B moves to hencho en mexio
g900 takes over, and we have a few blems
omg
freak out

L1 still the best in the game

I will take a L1 lemon, and roll it up against anyone

takers ???
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: jls on May 11, 2010, 10:54:52 AM
quote:
oh boy
big B moves to hencho en mexio
g900 takes over, and we have a few blems
omg
freak out

L1 still the best in the game

I will take a L1 lemon, and roll it up against anyone

takers ???
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Supercarbide bomb
pink raspberry c/2
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I can count on one hand the saws i have not owned




Dog, that''s not the point...Even though a few 18 -19 year olds I know who read your post are more then willing to take you on with their Mission''s...

The point is...

These balls, so I WAS TOLD... AND HAVE SEEN,  since I do have one on DISPLAY... Have either extremely long pins or extremely heavy top weights... and I WAS TOLD that they prefer that these balls in question were not sold... Because they made give bowlers a false read on how they perform...

So the idea to MARK them, "for display only"  and give them to some pro shops to display was born...

Hoping that these pro shops who might not be stocking some of these models, would get some bites on said models... and then place an order for them as needed...

So if the seller is indeed claiming that the "for display only"  on ALL of these balls is a mistake...Well then...

I believe that to be FALSE...

And See It As An Excuse to suck in some Sawheads...

Now wake up..............

And b-dog...You know no one in their right mine is going to travel more then a block to take you or anyone on... For what, $5 bucks a game..

come on already


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Edited on 5/11/2010 10:57 AM
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: bowlerdawg on May 11, 2010, 07:25:28 PM
J_ust_L_ousy_S_perm,

The name is DAWG, as if you did not know, how insulting, you should be ashamed

P.S. how is my old Lazy-Boi working out for you
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: jls on May 13, 2010, 05:28:41 PM
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J_ust_L_ousy_S_perm,<<<<< I DON''T THINK SO TIM

The name is DAWG, as if you did not know, how insulting, you should be ashamed

P.S. how is my old Lazy-Boi working out for you
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Wonderful... Comfe as heck...

How''s my old Mission working out for you...   Oh boy, that''s an oops..

FYI,  I did not misspell Dawg...  It was, as the geeks say... A TYPE O...

Has anyone noticed how boring this site is since CRD doesn''t post here much...

I mean, come on sawheads,  no new post since the 4th...

oops


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Edited on 5/13/2010 5:29 PM
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: The Stroke on May 14, 2010, 06:52:11 AM
I had a post, and guess what?  Yep it was deleted.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: completebowler on May 14, 2010, 07:55:31 AM
quote:
oh boy
big B moves to hencho en mexio
g900 takes over, and we have a few blems
omg
freak out

L1 still the best in the game

I will take a L1 lemon, and roll it up against anyone

takers ???
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Supercarbide bomb
pink raspberry c/2
OC chainsaw
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Really? So because you are throwing L1 you will bet any money against any bowler??? Just asking, cause if that is the case I am gonna have to get me some of them.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: The Stroke on May 14, 2010, 08:03:06 AM
complete,
lane #1 is the best don't you know that?  I mean they must be #1 in sales and #1 in recent history in wins on the pba.  Err maybe not.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Good Times Good Times on May 14, 2010, 08:09:40 AM
Maybe it was the "Display of the Year"
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: The Stroke on May 14, 2010, 08:11:39 AM
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Maybe it was the "Display of the Year"
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Would this display increase sales by 20%?
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Good Times Good Times on May 14, 2010, 08:25:34 AM
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quote:
Maybe it was the "Display of the Year"
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Would this display increase sales by 20%?
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No but it could be dangerous and hook off the display stand just by sitting there.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: kens101 on May 14, 2010, 11:21:50 AM
or 5 inches wider......
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Steven on May 14, 2010, 11:28:50 AM
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or 5 inches wider......  


The Lane#1 trolls are a hoot. The same old '20% harder', '10% higher', '5 inches wider', 'ball of the year' jokes. This was all a little amusing at first, but don't you guys get tired of rehashing the same old material?

A little imagination, please.
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: The Stroke on May 14, 2010, 11:42:46 AM
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quote:
or 5 inches wider......  


The Lane#1 trolls are a hoot. The same old '20% harder', '10% higher', '5 inches wider', 'ball of the year' jokes. This was all a little amusing at first, but don't you guys get tired of rehashing the same old material?

A little imagination, please.


Why should we stop?  It keeps bringing morons like you out of the woodwork.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: jls on May 14, 2010, 11:49:53 AM
quote:
quote:
or 5 inches wider......  


The Lane#1 trolls are a hoot. The same old '20% harder', '10% higher', '5 inches wider', 'ball of the year' jokes. This was all a little amusing at first, but don't you guys get tired of rehashing the same old material?

A little imagination, please.




Steven, may I call you Steve..

R U kidding us here...

Basically what you just said is exactly what most of those so called "trolls" have been saying about Lane One's HYPED UP ADS....<<< for like a zillion years

Do you ever read any of those ads...

You have the same job qualifications as our US Attorney General... Who never even bothered to read AZ. new law... Yet wants to file a suit against them...

If your in need of a job, call Obama, you're just the type he hires...

BUT, make sure you haven't paid ALL of your TAXES...

Cause if you have paid all of your TAXES...

Obama will not hire you...

and of course... "oh ya, like we're way out of line here"


thanks for making our day



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you beat all
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: OddBalls on May 14, 2010, 11:51:00 AM
The question was posed, because the people at lane#1 are almost fanatical about static weights and their effect on ball reactions.

Sooo, it seemed logical to me that if they made this "blems" with excessive top weights and markd them "for display only", then it wasn't a mistake after all IF you buy into that theory.

I'm just sayin'...
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Steven on May 14, 2010, 12:13:04 PM
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Why should we stop? It keeps bringing morons like you out of the woodwork.
 


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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: kens101 on May 14, 2010, 12:14:32 PM
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quote:
or 5 inches wider......  


The Lane#1 trolls are a hoot. The same old ''20% harder'', ''10% higher'', ''5 inches wider'', ''ball of the year'' jokes. This was all a little amusing at first, but don''t you guys get tired of rehashing the same old material?

A little imagination, please.


Did I piss you off....fa....fa?



Edited on 5/14/2010 12:16 PM
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: completebowler on May 14, 2010, 12:35:35 PM
quote:
quote:
or 5 inches wider......  


The Lane#1 trolls are a hoot. The same old '20% harder', '10% higher', '5 inches wider', 'ball of the year' jokes. This was all a little amusing at first, but don't you guys get tired of rehashing the same old material?

A little imagination, please.


So if they are L1 trolls wouldn't that make you a L1 fanboy???


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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Steven on May 14, 2010, 12:50:28 PM
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So if they are L1 trolls wouldn't that make you a L1 fanboy???
 


Complete: Absolutely. I've been a long time L1 fanboy. I've never tried to hide it.

But I also throw a lot of relatively current non-Lane#1 equipment that is also very good. Several pieces from Columbia, Hammer and Ebonite. In fact, I'm fairly sure my non-Lane#1 arsenal exceeds the size and scope of that owned by our infamous BR Lane#1 trolls.  

So yes. I'm a L1 fanboy with comparative experience. What a concept. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Good Times Good Times on May 14, 2010, 01:05:26 PM
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So if they are L1 trolls wouldn''t that make you a L1 fanboy???
 


Complete: Absolutely. I''ve been a long time L1 fanboy. I''ve never tried to hide it.

But I also throw a lot of relatively current non-Lane#1 equipment that is also very good. Several pieces from Columbia, Hammer and Ebonite. In fact, I''m fairly sure my non-Lane#1 arsenal exceeds the size and scope of that owned by our infamous BR Lane#1 trolls.  

So yes. I''m a L1 fanboy with comparative experience. What a concept. Thanks for asking.


I think it''s the idea that you''re so quick to defend, especially not being on their payroll.  Something about Lane 1 in particular makes you seem to want to defend them more.  Do you really care what everyone else thinks about the ball company itself?  I dont see how you could answer no given you''re history of defending them, you''re actions suggest you do care, and a lot.

I''m not saying that''s what "I''m" saying, i''m saying a lot seem to have that thought process.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Steven on May 14, 2010, 01:25:25 PM
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I think it''s the idea that you''re so quick to defend, especially not being on their payroll. Something about Lane 1 in particular makes you seem to want to defend them more. Do you really care what everyone else thinks about the ball company itself? I dont see how you could answer no given you''re history of defending them, you''re actions suggest you do care, and a lot.
 


Quick to defend. LOL... The trolls have been running relatively free from interference over the past few months. That's interference from me or any other "L1 Fanboy". This was hardly a 'quick' kneejerk reaction.

On these boards, I tend to defend against baseless attacks that are born of ignorance, or worse, pure stupidity. Miscellaneous, Coverstock Prep, etc -- the forum and thread doesn't matter. I don't care about what certain people think as much as caring that accurate information, based on real world experience, is out there. There is a difference.
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: completebowler on May 14, 2010, 01:33:29 PM
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So if they are L1 trolls wouldn't that make you a L1 fanboy???
 


Complete: Absolutely. I've been a long time L1 fanboy. I've never tried to hide it.

But I also throw a lot of relatively current non-Lane#1 equipment that is also very good. Several pieces from Columbia, Hammer and Ebonite. In fact, I'm fairly sure my non-Lane#1 arsenal exceeds the size and scope of that owned by our infamous BR Lane#1 trolls.  

So yes. I'm a L1 fanboy with comparative experience. What a concept. Thanks for asking.


So if you are currently throwing Non-Lane 1 products then why do you think Lane 1 is so good? Why go out of your way to argue/insult/attack guys who do not like their equipment and think their marketing is b.s.?

For the record I am not one of them....just don't see the logic. L1 has been off the mark for years now imho. I have used many, and I still use one of their balls everytime I bowl. But I am not gonna run around here arguing with people about how great their stuff is. Every company puts out great stuff. From time to time one company or another has a breakthrough that puts them on top.

Brunswick with PK18, Storm with Reactor, currently I believe Hopkinsville is producing the best equipment. But the point is that L1's best asset ever was the cover they borrowed from another company. (PK18)

jmo though.
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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Steven on May 14, 2010, 03:04:58 PM
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So if you are currently throwing Non-Lane 1 products then why do you think Lane 1 is so good?  


As I said, I like my non-Lane#1 stuff. The Columbia Swing series is very good. I particularly like the Momentum. I'm a big fan of the Rival series -- I have two drilled up with an Arch sitting in storage. The Hammer Black Widow series is a not miss. The Bite has been my favorite, and I have one of those sitting in storage. The Ebonite Mission is probably one of EBO's best releases in years.

Having said all this, I wouldn't trade the Dynamo or Dynamo X2 for any of the balls I mentioned. The comfort level difference is subtle, but there all the same. I recently shot two 300's in one league set with the X2. I followed that up the following week with a 278-279 with the X2. Not bad for a marginally skilled house hack. I've thrown enough Lane#1 where I know what I'm going to get when looking at a new release. Some I jump on, while others I'll pass. There is value in buying a ball without throwing darts.  

   
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Why go out of your way to argue/insult/attack guys who do not like their equipment and think their marketing is b.s.?
 


Don't kid yourself. 99% of those who attack Lane#1 here have never thrown one, and maybe have never even seen one on the lanes. They expect to be insulted/attacked. It's part of being a troll. As far as marketing, anyone who takes Richie's ads for more than the humor that's intended needs some help.

 
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For the record I am not one of them....just don't see the logic. L1 has been off the mark for years now imho. I have used many, and I still use one of their balls everytime I bowl. But I am not gonna run around here arguing with people about how great their stuff is. Every company puts out great stuff. From time to time one company or another has a breakthrough that puts them on top.
 


No argument from me here if you've had some notable personal experience. If they're not your cup of tea, so be it. And if you'd rather argue with idiots on the Misc Non Bowling forum than on the Lane#1 forum, that's your choice too.  

 
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Brunswick with PK18, Storm with Reactor, currently I believe Hopkinsville is producing the best equipment. But the point is that L1's best asset ever was the cover they borrowed from another company. (PK18)

jmo though.
 


That's fine as far as who you think is producing the best equipment. Again, your experience/opinion and I'm not going to argue with that. I don't necessarily agree that L1's best asset was the Brunswick covers. I feel the 900 Global covers are at least as good, and for all the talk about PK18 and Activator, I've gotten better effective longevity out of the Global pours.

See, we just had a rational exchange about Lane#1 and competing products. Isn't it remarkable what can happen when trolling doesn't inject into the picture?
Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: OddBalls on May 17, 2010, 02:01:38 PM
Back to the suject at hand.

Doesn't the excessive top weight on these balls make them undrillable because of the static weight issues?

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Title: Re: For display only..
Post by: Adrenaline on May 17, 2010, 02:41:48 PM
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Doesn't the excessive top weight on these balls make them undrillable because of the static weight issues?

It depends on how high the Top Weight is.
Normal drilling, you can get about 3 to 4oz out.  The weight hole at max, will take another ~2.8 Oz out.  So if the Top Weight is under 6, you should be safe, if it's 7oz... you're pushing the limits, requiring max depths on both finger holes.  And any more than 7 Oz is a long shot.

Just my .02