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jhutch769

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G-Force/Fury
« on: January 29, 2007, 06:45:44 AM »
I have heard that Lane #1 is thinking about filing a law suit against Brunswick for their use of the Torsion Core in the Fury because it is infringing on something they were working with while at Brunswick?  Can anyone clarify this story?
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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2007, 11:47:26 AM »
Steven: I will offer no rebuttal.
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To be fair, Lane#1 has fallen into the same mode. They're a business, and they have to try and maximize profit like everyone else.

We'll keep it at that.
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Joe Jr

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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2007, 12:22:22 PM »
I've realized that arguing with Lane1 users is more like arguing with monkeys, they don't have anything to say so they just fling crap at you.

Why can't you people just act civil instead of acting like soccer moms whos kid just got thrown out of the game? Of course my comment was nothing more then my opinion(and an exaggerated one at that), but in no way did I attack Lane1 or it's followers, but I still get insulted by people who fit there words better then me.

I still stand by my first sentence, Lane1 has no case, Brunswick has modified the core enough so that even in a simple outline of the core it doesn't resemble the Diamond core, let alone in real life.

PS currently switching between about 10 balls and only 1 is a Brunswick, so you can't play the loyal card on me anymore.
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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2007, 01:32:15 PM »
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PS currently switching between about 10 balls and only 1 is a Brunswick, so you can't play the loyal card on me anymore.


Joe: the issue isn't loyalty, it's ignorance. That's why people jump all over you. Stop making outrageous statements you can't back up, and maybe you won't get abused.

As an aside, I just watched the Fury video on the Brunswick site. They did a very nice job with it. The roll of the Fury is very similar to the solid Uranium, and the core is the closest thing I've seen to a diamond outside of Lane#1.

The irony is that the Fury core has the same simple shape characteristics the trolls always jump over Lane#1 for producing. Anyway, the ball looks like a winner.  

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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2007, 02:42:13 PM »
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The problem with patents is that a company can take your design, improve apon it and have a patent of their own. Now if Brunswick had not twisted the core then there would be an obvious issue, but the minute that core is twisted it becomes something different entirely.
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Patents can only be held for so long (1 year),then it is fair game as long as it not duplicated exactly. Hence the Weed Eater came out then the next year Weed whacker etc...Then everyone has one out.
  Now there is another aspect foriegn patents are different, Japan has been doing this for years to our technology,economy, taking picture while on tour all those years when actually they were investors.
 If Lane #1 doesn't have a Mexico patent, on the core, there then all they had to do is apply for it the buy the rights from mexico investors/ patent holders. Now the same applies with coverstocks. If Lane #1 had the recipe for the High Octane mixture. All they have to do is open a plant in say canada/cuba/south America/Iraq/Iran/Spain, apply for a patent and buy it from the special intrests. As long as no one else has already applied for that patent and granted to them there. See the Picture!
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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2007, 09:17:04 PM »
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What can I say? I'm no psychic, it's just that Trolls  are so predictable
 


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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2007, 09:35:45 PM »
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I've realized that arguing with Trolls is more like arguing with monkeys, they don't have anything to say so they just fling crap at you.


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Why can't you people just act civil instead of acting like soccer moms whos kid just got thrown out of the game? Of course my comment was nothing more then my opinion(and an exaggerated one at that),


Joe, you made a statement and not an opinion. Had it been an opinion you would have said that the core "probably" has more R&D, but instead you said it "has more" R&D.

 
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I still stand by my first sentence, Lane1 has no case, Brunswick has modified the core enough so that even in a simple outline of the core it doesn't resemble the Diamond core, let alone in real life.

 


I won't debate that one because I honestly don't know either way.
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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2007, 09:45:43 PM »
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Patents can only be held for so long (1 year),then it is fair game as long as it not duplicated exactly. Hence the Weed Eater came out then the next year Weed whacker etc...Then everyone has one out.
Now there is another aspect foriegn patents are different, Japan has been doing this for years to our technology,economy, taking picture while on tour all those years when actually they were investors.
If Lane #1 doesn't have a Mexico patent, on the core, there then all they had to do is apply for it the buy the rights from mexico investors/ patent holders. Now the same applies with coverstocks. If Lane #1 had the recipe for the High Octane mixture. All they have to do is open a plant in say canada/cuba/south America/Iraq/Iran/Spain, apply for a patent and buy it from the special intrests. As long as no one else has already applied for that patent and granted to them there. See the Picture!
 


A lot of truth in what handmeDN posted here. I am retired from managing a Brick Manufacturing Facility and we applied for and got patents on several things over the years in regard to manufacturing Brick. Our company lawyers handled that part of it so I wasn't directly involved in that part. The only thing I question in handmeDN's post is the 1 year limitation. I was thinking it was longer than that, but I could be mistaken here.
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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2007, 09:55:52 AM »
If there is anyone reading this thread just sitting there scratching their head and saying "WTF?!"...I am with you. While I feel it is OK to make an observation saying "hey, this core looks alot like that core", I think it is utterly rediculous to sit at your computer and participate in a flmae war because you think you have a better inside info than the next guy. And this applies to both sides of this. While I am a big fan of Lane #1, I am not about to take sides on this one. Why? WHO CARES! How does any of this relate to me? If the Lane #1 core is the same as something else, I don't care. I am still going to throw the Lane #1 alternative. It is up to the companies involved (and their legal people) to settle any discrepancies. Leave me out of it.
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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2007, 10:01:22 AM »
amen brother, there is a reason you have not seen my name in here
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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2007, 12:12:10 PM »
I am with the wagonmaster and trigger here....get over it people and just enjoy the sport.

Throw what you want and make it work...suck it up and enjoy.
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Re: G-Force/Fury
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2007, 10:00:54 AM »
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Patents can only be held for so long (1 year),then it is fair game as long as it not duplicated exactly.
 


 The only thing I question in handmeDN's post is the 1 year limitation. I was thinking it was longer than that, but I could be mistaken here.
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In the simplest sense, a patent is good for 20 years from the filing date.  The old rule was that it was good 20 years from the filing date or 17 years from the issue date, whichever is longer.
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