Author Topic: How would this drill effect the XL? (Read 1066 times)

A_P_K · « **on:** September 21, 2003, 09:28:26 PM »

I have decided to bring my XL out of retirement and was looking to put a..............4x3 50 degree layout on it.

I originally had a 3 3/8 by 4 1/2 on it and the ball was way too squirly on oil, and way too agressive on lighter conditions.

I'm looking to prevent it from skidding too far down the lane, hoping this drill will start it up a little sooner.

Hoping I can play a lighter pattern from deeper inside along the oil line.

Any opinions?

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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2003, 02:26:06 PM »

That should, in general, and to a slight degree, do what you think it should, but I do not think the differences will be as dramatic as you may believe them to be. The 1:30 type of drilling you had with the 3 3/8" pin position should not have been that squirrelly.

Before you re-drill you might want to try using it first (esp. if you're thinking of using at Strike and Spare ! As dry as it's bene there, the XL might work veey well there right now). If it is still squirrelly, try sanding it to 600 or 800 and then putting a very light polish on it. That might do more towards reducing the squirrelliness (darn! that's a pain to type.) if it's still sq _____, then re-drill it.
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A_P_K · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2003, 02:40:48 PM »

Charlest,

I was also messaged by Curly who suggested dulling the XL some what. I like that idea but the ball is actually stronger than it seems.

The ball on lighter oil would fly off the lane, it was designed to be played more up the boards. Every and I mean every time I went deeper than the third arrow the ball squirled up and hit behind the head pin. My carry was worse than terrible and I would leave two pocket 7-10 splits a night. If the outter boards dried up some this ball would take off like no tomorrow. (Think of Green Gargoyle type backend here.)

Dulling the surface should without a doubt make the ball move sooner as stated, but then again also I don't really think it would make much a difference over all. The core is in a "bad" position and I think the best bet in the end would be to turn it to CG out.

In regards to overall reaction, if it is the slightest bit different I'd consider it an achievement. If I could get this ball to move earlier just one foot, I wouldn't come behind the ten pin anymore. This ball was a hit or miss type, either I'd kill the shot or it would kill me.

I was thinking about using it at SnS and also at Stelton lanes. Right now SnS oils the lanes one day and the next it's drier than the Sahara. If I could use it there playing a small belly it would be good. At Stelton I could play the track area with the XL and, with the backend it has it will make it back to the pocket.

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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!

Pin_Krusher IS a serious threat to modern day bowling wood as we know it today.

charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2003, 03:17:50 PM »

Well, that was just a generic stab in the dark on my part. I've never fooled with the XL's cover either in a Lane#1 ball or a Brunswick ball. I think people eith er loved or hated that ball; after the initial excitement, no one, or let's say, few people ever said, "I love and still use my XL every day."

I'm going to practice at SnS before league tonight. Ask me tomorrow how they oiled, if I haven't cut my throat by then. If you remember, last Monday I stood against the ball return with my Barrage and virtually heaved it as far right as I could. I never got it out to the 5 board. 8-9 board was as far right as I could get it. I am also bringing a hyper-polished Hot Wire with the pin above the ring finger and a urethane black polished Hammer. If these don't work tonight, you'll read about me in the police blotter for taking out the manager.
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A_P_K · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2003, 03:26:48 PM »

Charlest,

LMAO!!!........

I bowled there Sunday morning in the 700 club triples tourny, and there was so much oil on the lanes you could go swimming.

The conditions are as different as night and day there every week, but I think they've come up with a condition that will allow me to use either my Crimson or the XL.

Yeah it's a love hate relationship with the XL, but I'm trying to go back and use my older equipment that I scored well with again. (My new equipment is causing nightmares!)

P.S. Don't hurt Josh.....take out someone else...LMAO!!!!!!!
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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!

Pin_Krusher IS a serious threat to modern day bowling wood as we know it today.

charlest · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2003, 07:07:37 AM »

A_P_K,

Josh is the assistant manager, not the manager, AFAIK.

They finally had some oil last night. I busted my hump lugging 6 balls in last night, not having any idea what to expect. I made sure I was there early to see if the oiled and they did. Josh, nice guy so far, even stopped by to remind me that this league, the Bi-County, has a rule that you can't practice on the lanes on which you will bowl. I'd never do that anyway.

I was actually able to stand around 25-35, instead of against the ball return and the heads AND the midlane had enough oil. In practice I was able to use my Fire Quantum, but in league I used my Hot Wire and my Barrage. Since we had 25/26, the end pair, I couldn't use the Hot WIre for very long, as my left leg dragged into the drop-off on the left lane. VERY uncomfortable. SO I used the Barrage.
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A_P_K · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2003, 07:22:33 AM »

Charlest,

Did the lanes break down that fast, or was there just a cleaner backend? Going from the Fire Quantum to the Barrage seems like one hell of a ball change.

Then again if you were playing that deep the lanes couldn't have been oiled very well. Like I said Sunday morning I was using my Enforcer and playing straight up ten, that's how much oil they put out on the high side.

I hid all my "newer" equipment because I was getting too much over/under with everything. I should have never put away my Visionary and AZO equipment, with them at least I know I can score.

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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!

Pin_Krusher IS a serious threat to modern day bowling wood as we know it today.

charlest · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2003, 07:58:47 AM »

A_P_K,

We haven't seen each other bowl - so there's that. No, the lanes stayed fairly consistent with, actually, less than normal transition. I never moved but 2 boards once I lined up. PLUS I am quite a bit larger than you are. As I said, we were on the edge lanes, 25/26. If I slide on 25, my push-off leg, my right went of the edge and that was what made me move to the smaller hooking ball.

If had a normal lane I would probably been able to use the Hot Wire and maybe the FQ. Also, I cannot play outside of 6/7 as breakpoint. I tried that several times with the Barrage and it went through the nose. I wound up playing a laydown point of 18/19 at the foul line, out to breakpoint of 7/8 at 46/48 feet down. (I don't look at the arrows, so I can't say where I crossed.
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