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Brickguy221

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Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« on: October 30, 2005, 11:39:41 AM »
I've noticed recently that some people are not including the HDB and the DB in their arsenal. Does anyone know the reason for this? I was looking at one of these two balls for myself, but should I be looking at something different in the Lane 1 line?

I bowl in a Wood Lane house and a house with new Brunswick Synthetic Lanes that are very touchy and are tough to carry on the backend, thus leaving a lot of 7 & 10 Pins no matter what angle the ball enters the pocket. No room for error in the Synthetic House like there is at times in the Wood Lane house. The oil in both houses is mostly medium 60%, medium light 30%, and medium heavy 10%. I haven't seen heavy oil for over 2 years.

Do these two balls not work on these conditions?......Are there better Lane 1 balls for this?


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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2005, 07:56:31 PM »
Hi Brickguy, I know you have thrown lane one balls in the past, but I'm not sure which ones. Have you used any of the bomb cores in the past, & if so, how did they match up? If you didn't, then I would say that will be the determining factor in how well they work for you on the shot & houses you mentioned. I did not have much success with my HDB, but I loved my DB when I first got it. They changed oil brands & the pattern where I bowl, & since then the DB has not been the right ball. I have been using all diamond cores & variations of the diamond cored balls with much more success of late. As for the reason a lot of guys don't show them in their line-up, I cannot say. For the conditions you mentioned the HDB & DB should do just fine, unless your game doesn't match up well with the bomb core!
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SprayNpray

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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2005, 09:04:00 PM »
I consider the Dirty Bomb a high risk, high reward ball.  If you can find a consistent line to the pocket with the Dirty Bomb (pearl), you will score like mad.  It does tend to be a little finicky though, and you usually find out about a lane transition in an ugly way.

Brickguy, if the lanes you bowl on are already touchy, I would recommend the Uranium Pearl as an alternative to the Dirty Bomb pearl.  It is more predictable and more arcy.

As far as the HDB goes, I had zero success with mine, it definitely didn't like to see any oil, and even after coverstock changes I couldn't find a desirable reaction with it.  Others love theirs, so I suspect I may have gotten a dud (?).

I can't go an entire post without mentioning the Tsunami, though.  It rolls nice and heavy and very predictably, but is very clean through the heads, as well.  It is quite a bit stronger than the Uranium pearl.  Definitely my favorite ball in some time.  I guess it helps that I am averaging 230+ since I got it!

Hope this helps a little.
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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2005, 09:31:00 PM »
Sawfreak, I agree with your statements about bot the HDB & the DB. I can't say anything about the tsunami though, because I don't have one.
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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2005, 09:34:11 PM »
my hybrid has gotten better with use.  even though ive not had much luck with the bomb series of balls im really starting to like it.  

the dirty pearl, not for me.

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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2005, 09:38:47 PM »
I have tried my DB several times recently & each time have been disappointed. I'm considering selling it. Maybe it was the oil pattern or the layout with my HDB, but never did any good with that one either.
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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2005, 10:25:10 PM »
1. SawFreak, would describe the Tsunami as the first ball out of your bag?

2. I had the Uranium approx 15 mos. or so ago (label drilled) and when I first got it, it didn't do too bad, but then about a month after fall leagues got under way, they changed the oiling methods nd amount of oil in both houses and the Uranium quit on me and no longer had any "smack" on the back end. Surface adjustments didn't help so I got rid of it. Since that time I have found out that label drillings don't match up to me. Pin under RF and CG's out with a weight hole and Pins beside RF and CG's out have seemed to work best for me.

3. What is the main difference between the bomb cores and the cores like the Urnium, Tsunami, Emerald, and etc.?

4. I may need to look at the Tsunami in place of the HDB and DB as I have seen several favorable posts on the Tsunami and if it is similar to the original Uranium but stronger on the back, then it may work for me.

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Brickguy221

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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2005, 10:30:29 PM »
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Brickguy, if the lanes you bowl on are already touchy, I would recommend the Uranium Pearl as an alternative to the Dirty Bomb pearl. It is more predictable and more arcy


SawFreak, only the Synthetic House is touchy. The Wood House is normally forgiving and a easier house to score in.

I want a Saw for each house.

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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2005, 11:08:22 PM »
Brickguy, based on what you have said, and also based on my experience on all of the afforementioned balls, I would say your best bet is to go with a Tsunami for the synthetic house, and the Dirty Bomb on wood.

Wood lanes in my experience tend to smooth out reaction shapes compared to synthetics, and the Dirty Bomb does have a little more punch than the Uranium Pearl, so I think you would be happy with that choice.

My Dirty Bomb is drilled stacked (but very slightly CG out), all of my other stuff is label.  I have used my Dirty Bomb on both wood and synthetics and it is definitely more predictable on wood.

The Tsunami smoothly covers about the same boards as my Dirty Bomb, and much more predictably.  I love it especially when the transitions are taking place, because it lets you continue to throw the original line during the transition without paying full price in terms of ugly leaves.  It gives a great read of how the lanes are affecting your reaction.  I can't think of a better ball I have ever seen for touchy lanes.

And yes, I would classify the Tsunami as a true benchmark ball, versatile on a variety of conditions.  Dirty Bomb, not so much, but wood helps with that problem.  I haven't tried it yet, but hell, I'd bet the Tsunami would cover you in either case!
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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2005, 07:26:12 PM »
I own the HDB and it does carry very well..  I am at about 350 revs and 16 mp/h, and the HDB carries vey well, and makes a good entrance into the pocket....I would also suggest looking into the Super Carbide Bomb...I also have this ball in my bag, and the backend reaction is much better than the HDB, and takes a much better angle into the pocket...


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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2005, 08:20:08 PM »
I have the DB and find it is quite strong.  I roll slower than you(14-15mph) and light to medium is about all there is around here. The solid version, the Hybrid, has been known to be strong in oil.  I don't have much need for an oil ball around here yet.  If you need a solid with more arc than snap try the Uranium solid.  

Check the Lane#1 website's tech section for more on how the balls are setup(hook vs backend).
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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2005, 11:18:01 AM »
if you do decide to get the HDB do not lay it out with a label layout unless you dont want it to hook I have had 3 of these two of which were layed out with a label layout and the third was layed out with pin above the bridge about 1/2 inch and CG swung about 3/4 of an inch right this ball rolled really strong the two that was drilled label would only move about 1-3 boards.
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Re: Hybrid Dirty Bomb and Dirty Bomb
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2005, 12:31:48 PM »
The DB is much stronger on the backend compared to the Hybrid, which is earlier and smoother, due to the solid nature of the cover vs pearl. =:^D
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