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HamPster

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Ball videos and Mike Savoia
« on: February 13, 2006, 09:45:06 PM »
I have a couple interesting thoughts regarding the videos.  Number one, can he never find a house that actually has a fresh shot out when he goes to record the videos?  The conditions are always, "house shot with many games," or "bowled on lanes with previous day's carrydown."  Second, how on earth can he get everything to roll up so well?  I really am in complete disbelief.  Especially with the pearl stuff when he bounces them off the gutter.  Lol, there's no way that Brunswick coverstocks with early rolling cores are going to be that smooth and strong off the dry, let alone roll back up.  

Now, I've had plenty of experience throwing, drilling, and watching other people throw Lane 1 stuff.  The Carbide LRG is teh leet uber ball of all time, hands down, no contest.  If I actually found another one, I'd probably hurt myself.  The Blueberry is probably one of the most inexplicably versatile and incredible rolling balls of all time.  The Emerald, while sometimes a little touchy, was a pretty powerful ball and a lot of fun to throw.  The Cherry Bomb was just plain too much ball for me back when I threw the ball like crap.  Now I'd probably enjoy it, but it was still a great ball either way.  The original Uranium was pretty unique, it rolled very smooth and clean for being a pearl, loved it.  The Cranberry was kind of a turd.  Now, if I could have thrown it better, that would have helped, but it had a little trouble with flattening out sometimes.  The Solid Uranium was a great lefthanded ball, I have no idea what it would have done righthanded . .

Throughout all this, the only one of those balls I'd actually believe might roll up for Mike with the way he throws it would be the Carbide LRG.  ESPECIALLY on a beat up shot.  In some of the videos, he actually gets around the ball a little, and the balls react like they should, given that roll.  Most of those drillings are just too strong to react like they do.  The Dirty Bomb reacts like it looks like it should with his roll, hook/stop.  From watching the videos though, he does look pretty versatile.  He can change speeds VERY easily, although I'm less than impressed by his shot from deep (unless that's just him just really trying to hit up on the ball for video show purposes), but I guess I just don't like his roll.  That axis tilt with that forward roll just looks like trouble on most conditions, plus his speed doesn't really look like it matches up with his rev rate, it doesn't look like the ball should have energy to come back like that when it hits the dry.  I'm not bashing the guy, obviously he can strike a lot, lol, but some of those videos have me in flat disbelief.  Am I missing something?  If those balls would roll back up for me like that, I'd buy a case right now.  I know a lot of people that would, including people that already throw Lane 1 here in town . . .
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Re: Ball videos and Mike Savoia
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2006, 07:01:02 AM »
I worked with mike for a little over a year in the shop.  The shot at that was bowled on is a very dry shot.  Carrydown is pretty bad but I start with my fear at Techcity between 3rd and 4 arrow out to 7.  While I do have a slower ball speed, it rarely matters what I throw their as everything does backflips.  Before signing with columbia I did happen to throw some of the lane one equipment.  I am not the biggest fan in the world of lane one, but they do make a couple of good balls.  I would say the house shot here will enhance ball reaction.

All balls older than the hybrid dirty bomb were bowl on the shot stated above.  The shots mike plays really deep are thumbless shots.  He rolls a pretty good ball without his thumb.

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Re: Ball videos and Mike Savoia
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2006, 11:44:39 AM »
I rather see the videos on a normal day shot then to have it setup on fresh oil

if the ball is for med-dry lanes .. then why bother with fresh oil .. this is not what the ball is made for .. I wanna see it on a dry lane condition .. like the end of the league condition

btw, go check Rudy vidoes ... and try to play his line .. it is on your fresh oil .. but it doesn't show you anything that will make you judge the ball cause the oil is too heavy and the layout is to fit his game, not yours or mine

instead of thanking lane1 for making these videos .. we come up with threads like these !!  I don't see ANY other company doing it for their bowlers .. to make a video for EVERY new ball

and btw, the EU hooks way more with me than Mike shows in his video

and at last .. you don't like these videos ... no one forced you .. don't bother watching them
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Re: Ball videos and Mike Savoia
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2006, 08:56:58 PM »
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and btw, the EU hooks way more with me than Mike shows in his video




Same here. I am a classic stroker, and I get more out of my EU as well (with same stacked drill as in the vid).
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Re: Ball videos and Mike Savoia
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2006, 09:17:56 PM »
I have never thrown a Lane 1 ball but I did stop by the sight and watched Rudys videos. They are very impressive but.... I will NEVER be able to throw a ball like he does so what good is this to me? Every ball looked pretty much the same to my eyes. Great videos though.
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tonloc300x0

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Re: Ball videos and Mike Savoia
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2006, 11:47:24 PM »
In the dirty bomb video I am the lane man.  On the fresh shot the balls hook more.  The backends really just fly.
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