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Equipment Boards => Lane #1 => Topic started by: Grayson on June 25, 2008, 09:45:31 AM

Title: Just a layout question...
Post by: Grayson on June 25, 2008, 09:45:31 AM

I have this nice 1"pin C+ sitting here right next to me... and with its 2.5oz of TW there seems to be little to do layoutwise...

But more brains will have more ideas... so what is YOUR idea for a layout of a Carbide+ with a one inch pin and 2.5 oz TW

the purpose of the ball is to work on both: used up carried down medium lanes and oilier med-heavy lanes on longer patterns where my Machine skids through.

Thanks for your oppinion!
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Title: Re: Just a layout question...
Post by: Nicanor on June 25, 2008, 06:09:09 PM

How would the Rico drill work with this ball and the condition it sounds like he wants to play on?


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Title: Re: Just a layout question...
Post by: AK47 on June 26, 2008, 09:40:13 AM

First thing is to find the true CG!
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Title: Re: Just a layout question...
Post by: Grayson on June 26, 2008, 09:48:52 AM

quote:

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First thing is to find the true CG!
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so true...

the thing is that... the LANE#1 label is approx 2.5 inches away from the pin whereas the punchmark is right between and slightly shifted left... so I don't trust that at all.

But how did you know
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Title: Re: Just a layout question...
Post by: dizzyfugu on June 26, 2008, 09:58:21 AM

Hmm, not much you can do - pin will surely end up under the fingers. What's your PAP? I once had a pin-in Trauma - not a good comparison basis, I know - and I had it drilled strong with the pin at 4" from PAP, and the CG, also a 1" pin, stacked. The pin ended up in a 4 o'clock position from my ring finger, and a small weight hole was necessary to get the ball legal (since it was just 1x1", I assume the ball also had lower top weight). The ball, despite being a polished pearl, showed s super strong, arcing hook, with a thunderous back end. It had been for a long time my best hitting/carrying ball. It was very predictable and a great choice for deep lines on medium conditions.

With a more aggressive coverstock and a non-polished surface, I can imagine that such a reaction should work well on the condition you want to use it on, even though I cannot tell how strong the C+ overall is. The Trauma was a pretty potent ball, with a high differential core, not sure about the C+ core - but its states 6" of flare potential, so I think it will have a similar result, maybe more even and earlier due to the particle coverstock.
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Title: Re: Just a layout question...
Post by: Grayson on June 26, 2008, 10:21:00 AM

Thanks for the ideas...

yeh pin position is not that much to choose from...

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Title: Re: Just a layout question...
Post by: BeansProShop on June 26, 2008, 11:01:38 AM

4x3 with the pin under fingers and an extra hole 8 inches from the Center of grip through the CG. Drill fingers 1.25" deep and the thumb 2.5" deep. Try to end with 1/2 finger and some side weight. The 8 inch extra hole will add some top weight back into the ball so it won't push out in the back. This is one of my favorite layouts for short pin, low top Lane#1 balls.

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