Post by: AK47 on March 01, 2008, 09:04:01 AM
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Post by: zeusjr on March 01, 2008, 07:50:21 PM
After wasting losts of $$$ trying balls drilled Label and never liking a single one, I will never waste a dime again..
Post by: mrbowlingnut on March 01, 2008, 10:55:44 PM
Post by: mrbowlingnut on March 01, 2008, 11:03:19 PM
Post by: SprayNpray on March 01, 2008, 11:07:19 PM
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Label is not bad on some of the diamond cores, but the two i have tried on the bomb series never hooked very much.
My sentiments exactly, though I have tried a lot more than two on Bomb cores- don't know why I keep banging my head on this wall...
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Post by: Brickguy221 on March 01, 2008, 11:44:23 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sorry but Label sucks... LOL
Label Drills never worked well for me on Lane 1 balls, but I have excelled with drillings of the Pin under RF and under Bridge with CG out 1" to 1 1/4" on the Red XXXL, EU and Solid Cobalt Bomb balls, but these balls are much weaker than the new BB so I can't say the pin under drilling will work on BB's or it won't won't.
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"Whenever I feel the urge to exercise I lie down until the feeling passes away."
Brick
Post by: AK47 on March 02, 2008, 06:50:17 AM
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Post by: AK47 on March 02, 2008, 06:51:51 AM
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Post by: Doug Sterner on March 02, 2008, 07:06:09 AM
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Post by: novawagonmaster on March 02, 2008, 10:35:52 AM
G-Force solid...iffy.
Black Cherry Bomb...good.
Army Green Carbide Bomb...good.
Uranium Pearl...good.
Uranium HRG...good.
Gold Nugget...bad.
Bullet...good.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on March 02, 2008, 12:05:45 PM
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I feel that Label works better for the slow rollers or the guys who like to play straighter.
Doug, if you will think back 4 1/2 or so years ago, label drills didn't fare well for me except on the Emerald of which it didn't do too bad there, but I now wish I knew what a Pin under fingers drilling would have done on it and the other balls I bought from you. At that time I swore off ever buying another Lane 1 ball again, and then a couple years ago, I began reading where others had bad luck with label drillings, but loved Pin under drillings, so I decided to try it one more time and "voila", Lane 1 balls suddenly worked great for me.
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"Whenever I feel the urge to exercise I lie down until the feeling passes away."
Brick
Post by: RevZiLLa on March 02, 2008, 12:12:45 PM
What do some of you more experienced drillers think?
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Post by: Brickguy221 on March 02, 2008, 12:36:35 PM
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NOT so good for lower rev guys who need to create angle.
Revz, what you said here fits my profile because I am a low rev guy. A Track Heat Remake is the only ball I have ever had in which a label drill worked for me. Works great on that ball when the heads dry in the middle and I move outside and throw straight up 5 like I was trying to pick up the 6 pin by throwing straight down the lane beside the channel.
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"Whenever I feel the urge to exercise I lie down until the feeling passes away."
Brick
Post by: Brickguy221 on March 02, 2008, 01:26:29 PM
Harry, I don't know who is drilling your balls, but it might be worth your time one day to come up to Edmond and see Anne Marie Duggan and see if she would watch you throw a few balls and make some drilling recommendations for you. If you did decide to do that sometime, call her pro shop before you come, to be sure she is in. I believe it is only a 20 minute or so drive from where you are at isn't it?
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Brick
Post by: AK47 on March 02, 2008, 01:49:16 PM
but i will exhaust all possibilities before it comes to that. WILL ONE PERSON CHIME IN AND SAY I DRILLED MY BUZZ LABEL AND I LOVE IT??????--------------------
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Unofficial member of F.O.S.
Post by: irishluck1970 on March 02, 2008, 02:20:33 PM
Post by: AK47 on March 02, 2008, 08:23:58 PM
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Post by: the-7-year-itch on March 02, 2008, 08:25:21 PM
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Clinton may have stained a dress.......................But Bush has stained a Nation!! Now I know what the W. stands for......Worst!!
Post by: SprayNpray on March 02, 2008, 10:41:14 PM
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I feel that Label works better for the slow rollers or the guys who like to play straighter. I have had a few Saws drilled label and didn't have any luck with any of them. Label seemed to be very inconsistent for me on any lane condition.
I am starting to feel the same way, even though I have had several balls work great with the label layout. Practiced again with my Buzzbomb today, and actually found a use for it. On lanes with extreme carrydown, I was playing straight up 5 board and experienced a very mild, controlled, even reaction that carried. My ball is at 4000 grit surface at the moment.
Unfortunately this is the only time I have been able to use it, and this certainly isn't how this ball was advertised or what I bought it for. I could have bought any old urethane ball and gotten the same result- it actually reminded my of my old Blue Hammer's reaction.
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-formerly known as SawFreak
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Post by: lefty50 on March 02, 2008, 10:44:49 PM
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Signature? I don't need no stinking signature...
Post by: AK47 on March 02, 2008, 10:49:49 PM
Well, i've always got my Enriched Uranium!
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Post by: Brickguy221 on March 02, 2008, 11:13:53 PM
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Just wonder if the rumor I've heard about Cg mismarked can be confirmed.
Lefty, definitely verify the correct CG before drilling. The mis-marked CG rumor on Brunswick made balls is true. I had a Solid Cobalt Bomb with the CG mis-marked by 3" and have heard several others having mis-marked CG's on Lane 1 balls made by Brunswick. I don't know if there was a problem on the balls made by Columbia before they were bought out by Ebonite or not, but I don't think there was. Ditto for the ones being made by Global now.
Both my drillers always verify the CG anyhow before drilling, regardless of what company made the ball.
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"Whenever I feel the urge to exercise I lie down until the feeling passes away."
Brick
Post by: AK47 on March 03, 2008, 09:35:42 AM
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Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on March 03, 2008, 09:44:07 AM
Army Green Carbide BOMB Solid = Dud
Cherry BOMB Pearl = Dud
Black Cherry BOMB Solid = Dud
After wasting close to $750 on those boat anchors, I finally wised-up and decided to with CG-out types of drillings and placing the pin at least 4" from my PAP (ex. 4x3):
Cobalt BOMB Pearl = Money
Cobalt BOMB Solid = Money
Now I have had several Lane#1's drilled label leverage that performed well but never any that were from the BOMB class of cores.
I hope this helps...
Post by: GTX on March 03, 2008, 04:38:59 PM
I tried a label layout and I did not like it.
I have 2 SuperNovas .. drilled one pin high (4.5" from PAP) stacked and it worked exactly like I expected it. The second one, the driller and I had to spend some time discussing the layout. We came up with a modified label. The pin was about 4" from PAP below the fingers line and the CG was kicked in to the point that the MB was almost (if not) near my track.
the result: the modified label skids more with a very string arc to a snappy finish. I am actually considering this layout for the buzzbomb to save all its energy for the backend.
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Post by: irishluck1970 on March 03, 2008, 05:33:44 PM
My ball speed is 16.5-17, I never moved all night but did have 8 pocket 10 pins.I left in OOB and had the same reaction all night
Post by: AK47 on March 04, 2008, 09:28:48 AM
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Representin' Lane 1 in the Dirty South!
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