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Equipment Boards => Lane #1 => Topic started by: Mr Buzzsaw on August 30, 2005, 09:14:30 AM
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After talking with the USBC directors, we have agreed to terms on the Super Carbide Bomb. Below is what transpired...
USBC,
As per your request, all polished Super Carbide Bombs in our warehouse will be returned to it's original state. Furthermore, I will issue a statement on our website, re-calling all factory polished Super Carbide Bombs.
As per your conversation, it is agreed that the USBC will take the Polished Super Carbide Bomb off the "non-approved ball" ball list.
It is also agreed that you will provide me with paperwork, or thru an e-mail, stating that pro shops can polish and sell Super Carbide Bombs. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Richie Sposato
President/CEO
Lane #1
Richie,
I am in receipt of your intentions. Thank you for your cooperation. USBC will remove the Polished Super Carbide Bomb from the non-conforming list. The original Super Carbide Bomb will remain on the approved list.
The ability of a pro-shop or bowler to drill, polish, sand, etc. is a right they have of any approved ball. Any ball that has come off the manufacturing line (at any point, even after re-call) with the original dull surface is considered an approved ball - and therefore, can be polished, sanded, etc.
Regards,
USBC Technical Director
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Richie, thanks for the information.
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I am glad to hear something was worked out. It's to bad everyone involved had to go through that. Knowing both balls are identical, one in the same ball, it just doesn't make sense that lane 1 couldn't sell it as the same product but with a factory polished coverstock. Oh well, thank you MR. Buzzsaw for letting us know.
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Wayne
FOS MEMBER
A HARDCORE FAN
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I find it VERY frustating to see that USBC is forcing companies to run their business based on THEIR rules.
There is a BIGGER market of unsanctioned bowlers than there is sanctioned. That market is just going to grow if USBC continues to pull crap like this.
Just my 2 cents.
Scott
Edited on 8/30/2005 6:52 PM
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thanks Richie
this is so stupid ... lane#1 can't do it but proshops can
USBC keep their **** up and soon no one will give a **** about them anymore
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H2O
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I wonder how many people will even bother sending their balls back...
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stanski
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Heavy, I tihnk that's the intention.....if we ask nicely Richie will probably let us in on how they polished them in the first place :-)
How about it Richie? Care to give us the lowdown on how to get that pretty finish you guys had on the ball?
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Doug Sterner
Doug's Pro Shop
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So when I walk in to a tourney and they see my shiny pro shop sanded/polished SCB, and if they ask, "is that a polished SCB?", my response will be, "this is my dull SCB, which I had fine grit sanded, and then had the pro shop polish it to the condition you see."



What a crock that they have to even recall the balls, but that is what happens when a group (USBC), that is supposed to look out for the participants of their sport, has too much power, and to save face, they flex their muscles.
As far as I am concerned, the only ball that ever existed was teh Super Carbide Bomb.
Dave
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Regardless of what the pins are made of, you can still SAW 'Em Up! Mess with F.O.S. and get CUT like all the rest!!
F.O.S. Members, Our Assignment Should We Choose To Accept It, Polish and Sharpen Up Our Saws; Pins Have Been Spotted, and We Are To Saw 'Em Up!!
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The balls were probably polished at the Brunswick plant on their polishing machine. I know Columbia uses a machine made for White Dots that is something stupid like 75,000 lbs. per sq. foot of pressure to polish like a marble. I just think the USBC can kiss my buttocks. There rules suck. It has nothing to do with the integrity of the game. We all know that scores can be halted with lane maintenance rule changes. Thanks beans
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Thomas "Beans" Biniek Jr.
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Thanks a ton Richie for all the help on this. I know USBC was being kind of childish, and I think they realized they did something really stupid by making a dull version approved and the polished not approved (both should have been approved), and I as well as many others here appreciate the hard work Lane 1 put into this to get this resolved. Great customer service, and you've kept a customer in me on how this was handled.
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I wonder if the USBC reps realize how STUPID this makes them look.
I mean come on now why does it matter who polishes the ball.
I think that organized bowling is headed for some rough times with these guys at the helm, can we PLEASE get someone with some common sense.
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I think the USBC just got pissed off at the ad saying approved by USBC when Lane#1 polished it
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OMG, polishing your existing SCB.......WHO'DUH THUNK THAT!!
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So, if I understand correctly, the Polished Super Carbide Bomb never existed. Not on the unapproved list, not on the approved list in the polished state. So, the sanded version is the only SCB on the market, just a few came out mistakenly polished at the factory, right? *wink, wink*
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C'mon guys, seriously, can't we let this whole thing go by now?
Mr. Buzzsaw, I have nothing but respect for you. You have turned a smaller company into a much-hyped ball manufacturer through the grassroots bowlers like myself. I currently have 2 Lane#1 bowling balls in my arsenal, and am adding another (although possibly removing one too).
BUT, can you please ask the F.O.S. to stop bringing up the same stuff. I think that all that is happening now, is that everyone else on BR that isn't directly linking themselves to Lane#1 equipment is starting to get a bad outlook for the bowlers on this site that do consider themselves F.O.S. or Sawheads. I know that this is a weird time, what with the whole approved/non-approved dilemma, but I think that there are miseducated people bashing an organization that is trying to set up something DECENT. I applaud you for your continued interaction on this site, with the people that have made your company so popular and desired to throw. But I don't think that the USBC was completely in the wrong with this whole situation, and I'm sure you'd agree, Mr. Sposato. Thank you in advance for your time,
Big Willy Style
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Thanks Richie.
Why do I get the feeling that USBC was flexing it's muscle, picking out a smaller company just to show that they have the power? I think this had nothing to do with "integrity" or anything else, other than USBC showing off.
I paid my USBC dues last night, under protest, and now regret it.
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"Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum,
minutus carborata descendum pantorum."
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I don't think USBC "picked" on Lane1....I think that it just so happened to be THE ball that fell into the 'trap' for lack of a better term.
And....I think that you'd find that there was an assumption on Lane1's part and they never truly 'consulted' w/ the USBC.
Remember...the USBC is new.....and w/ certain rules.....they MUST do everything they can to show everyone that they will STICK to those rules...so that people don't circumvent them....
Picky ?!?! Sure....kind of! Can I see the point....Sure , kind of ......but I must give the 'mistake' nod to Lane1 ( if they didn't consult USBC first) ...however....looks like all is well in the end though!
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JEFF
"What do you mean.... league starts at the end of the month ?!?"
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I WILL SECOND THAT BEANS!!!!!! ADRESS THE LANES NOT THE BALLS, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE U A_SBC? ALSO THANKS TO RICHIE FOR BEING RIGHT ON TOP OF THIS CRAP.
I HOPE WHEN BRUNSWICK MOVES TO MEXICO LANE1 WILL FIND AN AMERICAN COMPANY TO MAKE THERE BALLS.HOPEFULLY ANOTHER UNION SHOP TO REPLACE THE JOBS COLUMBIA IS TAKING AWAY!!!
F.O.S.
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this goes both ways. The grandfather clause the USBC made to allow certain balls in was worded in a way that many...Lane 1, us, and I am sure other manufacturers, thought would allow the Polished SCB in with no problem...because it was/is the same ball as the dull version.
Should Lane 1 have checked? Yeah. BUT, their point of view makes sense. As does the USBC's to an extent.
Right / wrong is a point of view, nothing more. Keep that in mind.
Also, while the FOS may be a little overboard in what we/they have done, their intentions were for something they believed in. I'll be the first to admit I e-mailed the USBC at first, asking why.
Big Willy...your right, the USBC is trying to set up something decent. In some people's point of view, the way they are doing it is wrong. That is all.
POINT OF VIEW is all this is
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