Post by: Bjaardker on June 19, 2005, 10:23:47 AM
Loss of customer base due to backlash wont affect a huge corporate megalopoly like Big B, but it might impact a company such as yourselves.
I've already stated that I wont be supporting any companies that are using Brunswick. This unfortunatly includes Lane#1.
Visionary is producing all of their equipment in the US & I plan to switch to them for my bowling ball needs.
Please Lane#1, realize that American jobs & supporting our workers is too important not to take action.
Post by: Brickguy221 on June 20, 2005, 12:02:44 AM
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Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 08:51:02 AM
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Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 09:19:06 AM
to make the change. So far I agree that the Lane #1 cores do
match up greatly with some of the Brunswick coverstocks. I am not
really sure I am going to be a great fan of the new Hybrid coverstock
on both the Hybrid Dirty Bomb and the H20. I have both balls in my
arsenal. This is just my personal preference, no offence intended.
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Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 09:42:54 AM
will lead to the reduction of their bowling ball prices. With that,
it will shut down the complains regarding Lane #1 prices.
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Post by: JPRLane1 on June 20, 2005, 09:44:52 AM
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Maybe the time is fast approaching for Lane #1 to pour their own covers. Didn't rumor have it that Lane #1 bought all the old faball stuff when the plant closed up. I thought that the rumors had lane #1 working on their own formulations and were just waiting for the right time to do it
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Captain of the Bomb Squad
Chicks Dig guys who throw the Diamondswe fight Dirty.
Nothing left to discuss
That is the rumor I heard Chris. But nothing more than a rumor as far as I know. I sitll say Brunswick covers are the best in the biz I just hope nothing bad happens with the move.
Seth I am sorry to hear about your dislike of the Hybrid covers I love both the Hybrid Dirty and the H20 they suit me well, but you also love the Solid Uranium which I disliked. No doubt different styles and different oil patterns/surfaces come into play but not every ball works for eveyones game. If you don't mind an experiment my friend take your Hybrid Dirty to 1000 grit smooth finish and see how you like it, I recently did mine and I love it even more now that I have a direct compliment to my pearl dirty bomb.
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Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 09:56:13 AM
for me to suit my game with both the Hybrid and H20, as they are
relatively very new in my arsenal. Compared to the Uraniums,
I have been using them for almost a year since I bought them.
Again I may say that not every Lane #1 ball will suit my game
perfectly. Hopefully Lane #1 will still continue to produce
bowling balls using Brunswick coverstocks. I would yearn to see
future Lane #1 balls using coverstocks that is different from the
Hybrid coverstock.
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Post by: Bjaardker on June 20, 2005, 10:03:52 AM
I hope that they respond in a timely fashion.
Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 10:04:45 AM
reach, I might have to reduce the number of Lane #1
equipment drastically in my arsenal.
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Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 10:31:18 AM
will force me to make careful selection of future Lane #1
balls. Please bear in mind that, there is no Lane #1
distributor in my country. I will have to buy Lane #1
balls from the internet or Lane #1 directly. Conversion
rate of local currency to the US dollar is very high.
I can't afford if Lane #1 prices increases more than
50 % on the internet.
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Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 10:34:53 AM
happens, triggerman.
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Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 10:42:37 AM
If Lane #1 balls are made in Mexico, how is the quality
and workmanship going to be ...
Is it going to be something like using cheap electronic
components imported from China as opposed using components
made in US ..??
My experience tell me, cheap components from China doesn't
last long ....
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Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 11:03:06 AM
hesitate to continue using Lane #1 equipment ...
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Post by: a_ak57 on June 20, 2005, 11:07:49 AM
See ya later guys, I'm gonna try to invent a full size human-like robot that can make bowling balls, and, also do "the robot". Or would a robot do "the human"?? Hmmm.... --------------------
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Brunswick...........'nuff said.
Post by: JPRLane1 on June 20, 2005, 12:43:54 PM
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I have sent Lane 1 an email and they replied that they are staying with Brunswick so I sent them one back and told them good luck but they will not receive and more of my business. If enough people do that it might make them think. Just a thought.
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Randy (The Dawg)
I am disapointed in you Randy. If quality goes down yes I can see you leaving but you must have an open mind and at least give them a chance. The bottom line is Big B makes the best covers and as long as only the location changes and the quality doesn't that is no reason to say I will never buy another ball from them. You gotta see how this all pans out first. I would hope nobody else in the FOS would send such a mail.
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Post by: JPRLane1 on June 20, 2005, 01:44:03 PM
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JPR, I am not going to use them unless the price goes down because they will not have the expense in them. Or at least Brunswick won't. I work in the transportation business and I am affected by NAFTA everyday so I will not support it. Just my opinion everyone else can do what ever they like.
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Randy (The Dawg)
Ok I am not trying to argue really I am not but the price won't drop at least not for buzzsaws, I mean like it has been said Richie charges what he wants to charge. So I am kinda having a hard time with your statement I want use them unless the price comes down because afterall you do use them now right. Again not trying to be argumentative just trying to make my point.
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Post by: Bjaardker on June 20, 2005, 05:08:10 PM
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A lot of you are discussing the quality or price of the product after the production in mexico begins. As far as I'm concerned you are missing the main point. Another large company pulling up stakes & moving out of the country. as far as I can see, we can't stand too much more outsourcing, companies moving, & foreigners coming here taking American jobs. Oh thats right ,they are jobs no American would do anyway! (Bullhunky!) Anyway, I'm fed up with what is happening altogether, & it doesn't matter to me if the product gets better or worse, more expensive or less expensive, I will keep & use what I already have, but will purchase no more from them or their affiliates. Also if I continue to bowl, it will not be in a brunswick house. You can say or think whatever you like about me, but that is the way I feel.
Quoted for truth.
That's exactly the way I feel. You all will come down on us & say "Your business doesn't matter, you're only 1 person". Go ahead & feel that way, but some of us have beliefs & values that will not allow us to support corporations like this.
If someone has actually gotten an e-mail back from lane #1, could you please post it here? Thanks!
Post by: PJM300 on June 20, 2005, 07:01:31 PM
Post by: bowlingmsy on June 20, 2005, 11:59:43 PM
Lane #1 balls are being manufactured.. All I care is
QUALITY and WORKSMANSHIP ...
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Post by: gbushman on June 21, 2005, 01:13:11 AM
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TOO many IDIOTS, so LITTLE time.
Post by: charlest on June 21, 2005, 09:32:18 AM
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hehe... Lane1, the MOST expensive balls on the market are made in the USA... good luck
imagine Rolls Royce moving their factory to Korea and trying to sell a Super Luxury car for 1 Million... good luck!
hummmm imagine BMW and Mercedes building in the united states, WOW that must have really hit the germans hard.
Not following the world market very closely, Triggerman?
FOr years now, the Mercedes C series and the BMW 3 series have NOT beenmade inGermany. MOst are made in Yugoslavia by "aliens" according to the Germans. That is why the build quality of the C series have not been up to thatt of the E and S series for Mercedes and the build quality of the 3 series for BMW have not been upt to the quality of the 5 and 7 series for BMW!!
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None of you have said anything bout the foreign manufactures who have opened up plants here in the states in order to be more cost freindly. Glad you are getting you US built toyotas and hondas and nissans, and mercedes at a reduced rate. oh wait that is right, they did not lower their price either, just added to the bottom line. --------------------
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I have had 2 Toyotas recently. A 1996 LE made in Japan, and now a 2005 XLE made in Kentucky. The list price for the 1996 ($28K) was more than the better equipped, better handling, better performing 2005 ($26K) model. Now tell me that is NOT a price reduction! 10 years and a price reduction. The 2005 appears to be as well built, but only time will tell.
I had the 1996 for 180,000 miles and the only thing outside of normal maintenance I did was change light bulbs. I only got the 2005 at my wife's insistence because she was worried that the 1996 might fail and repairs would be more than it's worth.
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There are horror stories both here and outside about car manufacturing.
Mercedes built SUVs in one of the Carolinas; its build quality in the first 3 years or so was the worst of any cars built anywhere except maybe for the original Hyundais. When Volkswagen moved Jetta building to Mexico the quality stayed miserable for years and still is. Yet Tototas plants in Kentucky, Nissans in Smyrna, Ohio are capable of competing with Lexus's and Infiniti's plants in Japan, which are the state of the art and have the absolute best reputation for build qaulity.
So, I'd say it's all up to the corporation who runs and designs the plants and their procedures. If the corporation does the right job, any plant anywhere, can do a great job. If they don't do things right, it can be a disaster.
Bottom line is we have yet lost more manufacturing jobs that will NEVER, EVER return. We are becoming a nation who builds nothing and sells everything. We will just wind up making commissions of selling each other things we buy from overseas. Thank you, Mr. Regan and Mr. Bushes. Maybe we can destroy a few more forests and sell the wood to Paraguay or Spain or Japan.
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Post by: pnj1967 on June 22, 2005, 01:06:16 PM
Thanks for checking out our website, hope you've enjoyed it. Lane #1 will not change manufacturers just because Brunswick moves to Mexico. We will change manufacturers if quality goes down or if orders can't get filled on time. As of this moment, we are happy with Brunswick manufacturing. But, we won't rule out the possibility of having another manufacturer make product for us along with Brunswick. If you have any further questions, feel free to contact us again anytime by e-mail or phone 1-800-Lane No.1 (526-3661). Thank you for your concern.
Sincerely,
Lane #1
Post by: bowler257628 on June 22, 2005, 10:09:34 PM
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Violence never solved anything...........but it does get rid of the competition which makes it easier for you
Post by: Bjaardker on June 22, 2005, 11:55:38 PM
I can't wait to try Lanemasters or Visionary.
Post by: Bjaardker on June 23, 2005, 08:57:34 AM
Post by: billwv68 on June 24, 2005, 03:37:03 PM
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doesnt look like im in kansas anymore toto
Post by: pinbombz on June 25, 2005, 11:39:01 PM
Please note, that if Bruns relocates to mexico for what appears to save costs, AT THE COST of displacing American workers, then this is completely unacceptable to me. Because, even if they save millions, do you think they will pass these savings onto the consumer? Lets say a $180 ball will now be sold to us for $100 only? Don't bet the house on it, this is about corporate greed rearing it's ugly head once again and I'm damn sick and tired of it.
Here's an example: Good ole boy boy Phil Knight who is the CEO of Nike uses basically sweat-shop labor in southeast asia to make his shoes for chump change, yet he still turns around and sells them for high dollar amounts. Where's the saved money going to, to us, as in savings to the consumer? Hell no, its goes into the coffers of the Phil and his corporate greed mongers.
It's going to be the same old song and dance for Bruns, but this time I aint buyin'. If they move to mehico it's going to be three strikes and I'm not talking a turkey. It also means that I will stop supporting Lane 1 as well. It'll be hello Visionary.
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Post by: ballcollector on June 26, 2005, 09:34:34 PM
Post by: BUZZZZZ on July 01, 2005, 01:07:18 AM
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Post by: Bjaardker on July 01, 2005, 01:01:57 PM
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You know you guys are like fare weather fans of your so called favorite sports teams.
That's by far the worst analogy I've ever heard. But it sure helps our side of the argument.
How many fans of the Dodgers stayed dodger fans after they skipped town & moved to LA?
How bout the Braves when they moved to Atlanta?
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on July 02, 2005, 12:40:51 AM
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I was trying to stay out of this conversation, but I have something to say.
The gasoline thing is totally different. It comes down to SUPPLY and DEMAND here partner. Gasoline comes from other countries (supply), and the US citizens need it for various reasons (demand). great demand, little supply near by to use
Brunswick is but one manufacturer. There are others available (supply), and bowlers(these folks have the "demand" for bowling equipment) can get equipment from these other manufacturers . great demand, and great supply near by to use.
Lane#1 can stay with Brunswick coverstocks, and if people choose to change ball companies then that is their choice. If Lane#1 sales are impacted then I am sure they will make a change if they deem it necessary.
Just remember this. Currently Lane#1 is an american company supporting another american company.
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