Post by: Nicanor on December 28, 2005, 11:53:39 AM
My Lane 1 arsenal is:
Super Carbide Bomb
Super Carbide
Bomb Pearl
Enriched Uranium
XL
XXL
XXXL
I hope I can get some feedback. Some of these bowling balls are outdated but still great equipment.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: Nicanor on December 28, 2005, 09:45:38 PM
I did not match up very well with the Uranium Peal so I will look into the H20 And the Tsumani. I'll also look at the Bullet.
Thanks for the input.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: MegaMav on December 28, 2005, 10:01:14 PM
maybe the drilling isnt working out for you Nic.
i was skeptical of the pin under and CG out for drilling because i usually like it on the side or above the fingers.
rolls up early and even, "Massive Impact" describes how it hits.
great ball, give it a chance, took me 10 games to get a great read on it.
Eric
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Post by: Nicanor on December 29, 2005, 08:09:31 AM
I drilled and never threw the Carbide Bomb pearl and I could not get a good read on the Uranium pearl. It was consistent but I just couldn't carry. It was when I first came back to bowling and I struggled horribly. I'm not saying anything negative about the ball, just sold it to a friend that is killing the local lanes with the Uranium pearl and the Uranium solid.
Looking for advice on how to drill the Enriched Uranium for the bench mark ball.
Thanks for the reply.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: Nicanor on December 29, 2005, 08:13:45 AM
I acually have the Massive Impact from Legends. I don't know how that hits either but its in my game not the ball. There is only one ball on the market currently (and I own it) that I just don't get at all.
I know bowlers that have several Uranium pearls all drilled differently that shoot lights out.
I am shooting lights out with a Big Time Pearl and the Sonic Boom. Go figure.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: zeusjr on December 29, 2005, 10:07:51 AM
Super Carbide Bomb
Teal Buzzsaw
Purple Buzzsaw
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Tsunami H2O
Super Carbide Bomb In the shop...
Viper
Purple Buzzsaw
Ebonite Zebra 4
Post by: Brickguy221 on December 29, 2005, 10:10:20 AM
quote:
i was skeptical of the pin under and CG out for drilling because i usually like it on the side or above the fingers.
Unless the ball is unusually strong, that drilling works well for me on most balls. Wish I had known that 2 1/2 years ago when I had some Saws. All were drilled in the vicinity of label drill and didn't do well for me. I blamed the balls, whereas thru having other brands of balls drilled Pin under RF after that and working well for me, I concluded it was the layout on the balls that caused my problem and not the balls.
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Brick
Post by: MegaMav on December 29, 2005, 10:22:42 AM
im happy with the way the uranium reads.
when my inferno was getting to be uncontrolable (PIN Above), i took out the uranium (PIN Below), and got back into the groove, even with the same coverstock.
the uranium is the first ball ive owned with the pin under like that.
i have a NIB Time Zone, i have it layed out for pin below, im anxious to see how that one works out for me also, being a solid resin and not pearl, it will probably be even smoother at the break!
Eric
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Post by: T-GOD on December 29, 2005, 10:30:43 AM
With pin out balls, pin over the bridge and Cg kicked out 3 1/2 - 4" from PAP also work great, for an earlier, more even rolling motion. =:^D
Post by: Steven on December 29, 2005, 10:40:25 AM
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Nic, have you tried a short pin, drilled label with the pin under/slightly to the right of the ring, with the CG towards the palm..? Nothing fancy, keeping it simple, this gives you the most continuation on the backend. It works great on Buzzsaw's.
T-GOD: That's my favorite Uranium setup -- I have it on both of my Uraniums (Solid and Pearl), as well as my Golden Nugget. Short pin label leverage seems to very compatible on different Saws, but it works especially well on the Uraniums.
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Post by: Nicanor on December 29, 2005, 01:12:54 PM
What do you think the Enriched reactions would be with the pin about in the 2 O'Clock area and the MB if marked, under or just right of the thumb, almost a 2:30 drilling?
I also have the Pro Purple, Teal and several others of the Buzzsaw line.
Thanks for the help. I just want a ball that I can take out of the bag for the first ball out of the bag to help and read the lane.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: T-GOD on December 29, 2005, 01:45:41 PM
You're probably drilling the balls a bit too strong, with the pin in the leverage, i.e. 3 3/8" from PAP. In combination with the CG in the thumb quadrant, the ball may be too early and too strong off the dry.
Either one of these too layouts should be good for reading the lanes.
The first one will give you more length with a strong continuation on the backend thru the pins.
The bottom one with the CG out, will give you an earlier read in the mids, with a smooth controlled reaction off the dry, with less continuation on the backend.
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Post by: Nicanor on December 29, 2005, 04:10:51 PM
I'm probably going to try your first recommended drilling on the Enriched Uranium. Think that will work?
Thanks again.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Edited on 12/29/2005 5:01 PM
Post by: T-GOD on December 29, 2005, 04:16:07 PM
Post by: Doug Sterner on December 29, 2005, 11:05:32 PM
Super Carbide Bomb drilled basically 4x4, light polish
Enriched Uranium drilled 5-1/2 x 3-1/2, Track Delayed Reaction
Tsunami drilled 4x4x5, mass bias strong, Track Clean n Smooth
H2O drilled 2x4x6, MB under thumb, Clean N Smooth, Magic Shine
XXXL drilled 4x4, gloss polished
I also have a Pearl Cherry Bomb (pin over ring, cg stacked under) and a Super Carbide (5x4 pin over) at my disposal.
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Doug's Pro Shop
Owego, NY
http://dougsproshop@aol.com
www.dougsproshop.net
Feel the Power of the FOS with new Enriched Uranium from Lane 1!!
Post by: Nicanor on December 30, 2005, 08:35:36 AM
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: Roy Munson on December 30, 2005, 08:49:49 AM
If you are leaving a ton of 10 pins, you just need a minor adjustment in your stance. My experience is that when I do leave 10th pin, my ball enters the 1-3 pocket (rh) light. My adjustment would be to stand 2-3 boards more to my right and hit the same target. See if it helps.
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Bowling is 90% mental, the other half is physical - Yogi Berra
Roy Munson - Kingpin
-Noel
Post by: Nicanor on December 30, 2005, 09:05:38 AM
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: Roy Munson on December 30, 2005, 10:31:13 AM
Just watch out when you leave the 4 or 5 pin - which means you hit the pocket a little high. Adjust accordingly.
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Bowling is 90% mental, the other half is physical - Yogi Berra
Roy Munson - Kingpin
Post by: T-GOD on December 30, 2005, 12:28:32 PM
Post by: MegaMav on December 30, 2005, 12:40:48 PM
quote:
Nic, if you're leaving tons of 10's and you're using CG out drillings, go to pin out drillings. If you're using pin out drillings and leaving 10's, use CG out drillings
not again...
someone get BrunsRicH!
dood, get a clue, watch this video...
CG Video (http://"http://www.brunswickbowling.com/uploads/images/1340/USBC_proposed_rule_changes_-_CG-Distance_informartion.pdf")
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Edited on 12/30/2005 1:32 PM
Post by: Brickguy221 on December 30, 2005, 12:48:57 PM
quote:
not again...
someone get BrunsRicH!
Pleaseeeeeee.....Don't start that crap again. It's been beat over and over and over and etc. again.
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Brick
Post by: MegaMav on December 30, 2005, 12:55:10 PM
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Post by: Steven on December 30, 2005, 01:38:04 PM
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im glad brunswick made the video, when someone says CG matters, i just slap the link on, and people can see the empirical proof.
Mav: Brunswick reps here on the boards have also said repeatedly that the "CG Don't Matter" mantra applies to Brunswick equipment, and they don't speak for other manufacturers.
In this light, CG does matter on Lane#1 balls. If you don't believe that, you haven't thrown, or at least experimented with different layouts on Lane#1 balls.
You're in the wrong forum for trying to stir up the CG argument.
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"Sometimes, the best move is the one we don't make"
Post by: Nicanor on December 30, 2005, 01:50:04 PM
Most of the drillings I have with regards to LAne 1 are pin near the ring finger, some up a little some down a little but the CG is usually kicked toward the VAL. Almost between the thumb and VAL. Is it possible that the ball is not retaining enough energy or going into a roll to early (burning up, rolling out, whatever the right discretion is)not saving enough energy to carry the 10 pin. I have a couple of stacked leverage (thats the XL with pin about 3/4 inch above the finger line).
Is there a drilling that I can put on the Enriched Uranium that will help with this problem and I did read your post with the two recommendations with cg out and cg in the middle of the palm.
I don't know about Brunswick's opinion on CG and there are several pro shop operators that agree including Alvin Lou, but I think that Lane 1 has a different opinion noted on their website. If CG doesn't matter then why doesn't USBC stop with the drilling restrictions/ side/top/and bottom weight restrictions?
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
Post by: MegaMav on December 30, 2005, 02:05:14 PM
quote:
CG does matter on Lane#1 balls
its easy for you to say that.
prove to me that CG does matter.
center of gravity is the same regardless of company, brunswick pours lane #1 covers and punches the CG mark.
you can talk about personal experience and "this rolled different than that".
but you're not proving anything without empirical evidence.
and last time i checked brunswick has that evidence.
if you say you swing the CG out, and have an x-hole to cover the static weight rules, you're not taking into account the effect that the x-hole has on reaction, in comparison to a ball without the x-hole and same pin position.
there are many ways to argue this point, and with all the bullheads around here it will never be a resolved argument.
if you want to prove your point make a credible video and show that CG does matter, using 1 variable, CG.
Edited on 12/30/2005 2:59 PM
Post by: Steven on December 30, 2005, 02:25:40 PM
quote:
its easy for you to say that.
Actually, it's not. It took time, experimentation and expense to create repeatable results and come to the "CG Matters" conclusion.
quote:
center of gravity is the same regardless of company, brunswick pours lane #1 covers and punches the CG mark.
That's probably why Lane#1 provides explicit instructions for locating the CG, regardless of where the mark is on ball. It would seem silly to go through all that trouble if it doesn't matter. Or maybe it's because it does??
quote:
you can talk about personal experience and "this rolled different than that". but you're not proving anything without empirical evidence. and last time i checked brunswick has that evidence.
Like many things in bowling, there isn't a substitute for personal experience. Maybe when you get the time and inclination, you might try the same. Besides, this is also Lane#1's belief as emphasized in their drilling instructions. Maybe they just inject CG to make things a little more challenging?? Naa. I don't think so.
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"Sometimes, the best move is the one we don't make"
Edited on 12/30/2005 3:42 PM
Post by: Sawuser on December 30, 2005, 02:41:50 PM
So, do you bowl at Parkway? I haven't seen Alvin in years.
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Hardcore FOS
Rom 2:2 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
Post by: Brickguy221 on December 30, 2005, 03:13:22 PM
quote:
you can talk about personal experience and "this rolled different than that".
but you're not proving anything without empirical evidence.
and last time i checked brunswick has that evidence.
Mav, I don't intend on getting involved in this argument as I am not a specialist in that field, but as you say...."Brunswick has that evidence." Thats true, they do, but only on Brunswick balls. I'm not saying they don't, but to my knowledge, Brunswick has no evidence on the balls of other companies. That is what Steven is telling you and that is.....Only on Brunswick balls....Not Lane 1 balls. Or any other balls for that matter that I am aware of. I've watched the viedos as others have and they are all Brunswick balls so you need to prove your point the same as you asked Steven to do.
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Brick
Edited on 12/30/2005 4:04 PM
Post by: MegaMav on December 30, 2005, 04:55:16 PM
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It would seem silly to go through all that trouble if it doesn't matter. Or maybe it's because it does??
it does matter, CG is the superficial point to where the center of gravity of the ball is located on a plane between the surface and the center of the ball, thus, that same point is the heaviest point on the ball in comparison to the rest of the surface, we call it top weight.
the closer to the surface the center of gravity is, the higher the top weight.
the punch mark matters, because it eliminates the guess work/ machine work of finding where the heavy spot is on the ball, other wise without any CG measurement, it would be a pure guess to where the driller needs to take weight out of the ball to make it USBC static legal (drilling the finger holes or x-hole).
quote:
Like many things in bowling, there isn't a substitute for personal experience
there is no substitute for a controlled experiment to determine the effect of variables on an outcome.
personal experience is often naive and biased.
there are many variables when it comes to bowling.
all of them except for 1 need to be controlled to get a respectable result.
correlations and inferences cannot substitute control and experimental variables.
quote:
Maybe when you get the time and inclination, you might try the same.
im not making it personal here, and ill give you the benefit of the doubt of that not being a malicious comment.
but i will tell you using common sense and my education as a guide that 1 net ounce of top weight after drilling on the side of a rotating object that weights 255 times that amount has a very marginal effect on the trajectory of that object.
if you think CG differs from company to company, you're not only kidding yourself, you're also disregarding LAWS of physics.
cores are cores, just different shapes, same laws of rotational objects.
let me ask you something... if a ball had a 100% round core, perfectly centered in the ball, undrilled, where would the center of gravity be on the surface of the ball?
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Post by: a_ak57 on December 30, 2005, 05:12:05 PM
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Post by: MegaMav on December 30, 2005, 05:28:17 PM
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those balls they show in that video are far from the same every time
i agree with you, they do CHANGE, but that is because ThroBot throws over the exact same spot every time, tracking up the oil much more efficiently than us error prone humans, thus the ball looks different each time because there is less and less oil to hinder the ball reaction.
if you look at the graph corresponding to the video it shows the AVERAGED trajectories, there are negligible differences.
quote:
at least I didn't hijack people's questions about their arsenals to argue about the damned thing.....
i think you can blame t-god of injecting ignorance and grandiose ideas into the conversation, forcing corrective action.
Post by: MegaMav on December 30, 2005, 05:49:03 PM
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but when cg is used to locate even a small mass bias, then the cg does matter for drilling purposes
well said i agree.
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Post by: a_ak57 on December 30, 2005, 05:55:47 PM
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see Andy, there is always some common ground to be found lol. Thanks for the vote of somewhat agreement there MegaMav.
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But hasn't *everyone* said that mass bias > CG??
I still reserve to the theory that most people are inconsistant enough that debates between drilling a ball 4 x 4 rather than 4.5 x 4.5 doesn't matter as much as we make it out to be, but that's another can of worms.....
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Post by: a_ak57 on December 30, 2005, 06:04:21 PM
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Post by: Steven on December 30, 2005, 06:04:27 PM
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Sheesh megamav, at least I didn't hijack people's questions about their arsenals to aruge about the damned thing.....
Andy: I've tried with you, and obviously failed -- my bad. However, please don't bring your baggage into the Lane#1 forum. You've probably never seen one, or much less have touched one or thrown one. You took to "CG don't matter" like a toddler takes to a shinny new rattle. That's all well and fine, but I'm not amused. Go play somewhere else where someone cares.
Mav: All I can tell you is that over the past two years, I've done experiments on several pairs of symmetric balls with identical specs; Ebonite Low-Flare Stingers, Columbia Pearl WOW's, and Lane#1 Cranberry's. All with 1.5" pins, 1:30 and 10:30 drills, respectively, in the grip, and no extra holes.
In all cases, the 1:30 drills produced noticeably extra length with more pop on the backends. And while I'm not a professional, I average in the 225-230 range, and get more than average revs on the ball, and can easily vary tilt for different roll. In other words, I understand roll and breakpoint over different conditions, so it's more than just what I want or 'think' I should see.
You can believe this or not. There is no video because I wasn't trying to prove anything to anyone but myself. I honestly had no preconceived notions. My only goal was to acquire better understanding of cause/effect drilling relationships.
So forgive me if I don't fall all over myself after viewing the results of the Brunswick video. I trust few things unless I verify them myself.
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Post by: a_ak57 on December 30, 2005, 06:12:12 PM
It's now quite clear to me the "you're a bright but misguided kid" tone you took in the PM you sent me was indeed, a bunch of BS. I can't help but laugh at your double-faced approach to life. Hope you don't treat your family like that...
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Edited on 12/30/2005 7:01 PM
Post by: Steven on December 30, 2005, 06:20:28 PM
In a gesture of good will I sent you a PM, and got no response until you decided to take a shot at me in this thread. And you have the gonads to call me two faced? Get real.
If you have something to add, be it real world advice on Lane#1 arsenals or drillings, or some real input to the CG issue, that's fine. But again, if your intent is to continue to be a pest, take it elsewhere.
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"Sometimes, the best move is the one we don't make"
Post by: a_ak57 on December 30, 2005, 06:23:36 PM
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Post by: MegaMav on December 30, 2005, 06:26:57 PM
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until you decided to take a shot at me in this thread
last time i checked, you were the one calling andy a child.
get over yourself steve-o, name calling and coercion is for 5 year olds.
Eric
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Post by: Steven on December 30, 2005, 06:36:14 PM
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"Sometimes, the best move is the one we don't make"
Post by: MegaMav on December 30, 2005, 06:45:56 PM
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I gave you some real world experiments
what you stated wasnt an experiment.
give me some facts, results, baselines and control balls and we'll talk about what you've found, you're only making inferences and corrolations.
not results from a true experiment.
im done with this thread, its about to complete its 1st circle.
good day, and good layouts to all.
Post by: a_ak57 on December 30, 2005, 06:48:28 PM
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Edited on 12/30/2005 7:42 PM
Post by: Sawuser on December 30, 2005, 07:14:29 PM
quote:
I wrote the same thing on the Ebonite website and its not meant to compare companies and I probably will inter mix the companies bowling balls but I just wanted some others advice.
My Lane 1 arsenal is:
Super Carbide Bomb
Super Carbide
Bomb Pearl
Enriched Uranium
XL
XXL
XXXL
I hope I can get some feedback. Some of these bowling balls are outdated but still great equipment.
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Nicanor (Ten On The Deck)
DANG!! See what happens when you ask for advice!
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Wayne
Hardcore FOS
Rom 2:2 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
Post by: Steven on December 30, 2005, 07:25:07 PM
That's cool. I understand the doubt and the questions. I offer the tests I conducted for what they are worth, and if some people here choose not to believe, I get it. I'm not a physicist, and I don't claim to understand the the mathematical motions of cores. What I do understand are tests that yield predicable results. That's all I was trying to convey.
What I don't get is bowlers who won't try a personal test themselves, yet form an opinion based on a single video. Especially since there isn't absolute consensus among the different ball companies. The same thing goes for the the cover vs. core debate. I see endless debate based on what's been read and researched, but when you ask about specific personal tests, what you get back is the 'sound of silence'
Bowlers are an interesting breed.
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Post by: Steven on December 30, 2005, 08:45:31 PM
quote:
DANG!! See what happens when you ask for advice!
Wayne: You're absolutely right. The thread went off track, and much of it is my fault. I'll give a shot at Nic's original question. Given the following balls:
Super Carbide Bomb
Super Carbide
Bomb Pearl
Enriched Uranium
XL
XXL
XXXL
It's not the most balanced Lane#1 arsenal. Many of the balls are specialized pieces. The SCB is not an everyday ball; even polished, I'm only able to use mine on fresh heavy, which I usually only see in tournaments. I don't know about the SC and the Bomb Pearl -- before my Lane#1 time. Given that Nic didn't like the Pearl Uranium, I don't know why he went with the Enriched. It's the same core, slightly more aggressive cover. The XL and XXL are interesting balls, but they didn't quite pan out. Both are more aggressive than advertised, but at least in my opinion, not strong enough for everyday 'go to' balls. The XXXL is a nice dry lane ball, but unless used for spares, another specialized piece.
Given that Nic likes the Ebonite Big Time, He'd probably match up well to the Dirty Bombs. The original DB is would be a more aggressive version of the Big Time Pearl, and the Hybrid DB would give a more controlled look.
Just some thoughts.
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"Sometimes, the best move is the one we don't make"
Post by: Nicanor on December 30, 2005, 08:48:02 PM
This is a great discussion but its like a lot of other subjects. People have their beliefs and try to prove their hypotenuse and try to make believers out of all who will listen. I find it hard that the CG has not effect on a ball's motion characteristics on the lane, but if Brunswick said it, Gee it must be true.
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Post by: Sawuser on December 30, 2005, 09:22:14 PM
You're correct about the SCB & I also have the SC. They probably overlap, of course different drillings can separate them somewhat. The DB has a big backend, but so does the enriched. I had the xl as well as the xxl pearl & I actually found my xxl to be as strong as the xl.Of course all of the reactions depend on where the CG is placed. That will make a huge difference
Now, Nicanor, you must not have read where I asked if you bowl at Parkway, & that I havn't seen Alvin in years.
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Hardcore FOS
Rom 2:2 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
Post by: Sawuser on December 30, 2005, 09:40:37 PM
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Wayne
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Post by: Sawuser on December 30, 2005, 10:37:05 PM
Happy New Year Everyone!
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Post by: Nicanor on December 31, 2005, 09:37:39 AM
Sorry I didn't respond to your post earlier about Alvin and Parkway. I just seen Alvin again Thursday while bowling in this quarters position round in a single person league. I had to take 10 of 14 points from the first place bowler and the Big Time pearl worked tremendously.
Alvin use to be my coach when he coached on Mondays but since he has moved to Tuesdays, I can't make it because I bowl league. Alvin is a great guy and very knowledgeable about the game and bowling equipment. He's just not my bowling ball driller.
Triggerman,
I read your post in the beginning before the post got off track, though an interesting thread on CG. Thank you for your input. in the end I'm probably going to mix Ebonite and Lane 1 and fill the gaps from there. That was why I ordered the Uranium Enriched. I was hoping to get a pearl that was stronger and drilled differently than my Big Time pearl.
Thanks for the feedback.
Steven,
Thank you for the feedback also. At the end of this email I'm going to combine the Ebonite stuff I want to use and the Lane 1 and hope that I can fill the gap. I do only take 4 bowling balls to league but tournaments I usually bring more and just leave the condition specific ones under the seat. Its nice to see some of the older Ballreview members still reading and posting.
Now for the combination of Ebonite and Lane 1. If you all don't mind helping make a combined arsenal on the Lane 1 thread, I'd appreciate it.
Heavy oil: SCB and the XXXcel
Medium/heavy: Super Carbide/Big Time
Medium: Enriched Uranium/Big Time Pearl
Medium/light XL and the Big Time pearl could almost fit here
light XXL, Sonic Boom, Cross Fire
dry XXXL, old urethane red Hammer pearl
I have The One but I haven't figured it out yet.
I know Steven said the Dirty Bomb pearl might work in this arsenal, so hopefully you Steven and the rest of you can help me consolidate and fill in the weak spots of the arsenal.
Now that I'm getting stronger again and some confidence again, I'd like to get back to bowling tournaments.
Thanks for all your help.
Barry
Post by: Roy Munson on December 31, 2005, 09:46:18 AM
I hope I don't get burned here, but for med/med light/med heavy oil, I like my Tsunami much better than my Enriched. I practice equal number of games with these saws, on same lanes, and found - IMHO - that my Tsunami is more forgiving and more versatile.
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Post by: Sawuser on December 31, 2005, 10:22:46 AM
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Wayne
Hardcore FOS
Rom 2:2 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools