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StormStriker

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Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« on: December 05, 2004, 03:16:03 AM »
I don't know about others but it is omewhat unclar to me what lane layouts/ conditions Lane #1 balls should be ued on.
Its alright with the basics: XXXL: Little/no oil, Super Carbide Bomb: Flooded but what about all the balls inbetween- what are they to be used on? Long/short, heavy/dry?

Assuming they are drilled stack, what do they suit? Lets get a list going.
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StormStriker

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2004, 05:53:23 AM »
Oh c'mon 100 views and no replies?
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Brickguy221

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2004, 09:59:58 AM »
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Oh c'mon 100 views and no replies?
 

Storm, the reason no one is answering is because even Lane 1 doesn't know.
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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2004, 10:14:37 AM »
Storm: Check out the hook rating section under the Tech Data link on the Lane#1 website. That should give you a good idea about the relative strength of each ball.

Lane#1 covers the full spectrum of conditions, just like most of the other companies. You really have to try a Buzzsaw yourself to determine if the distinctive roll matches up to your style/ability.


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JOE FALCO

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2004, 10:33:31 AM »
I asked this question a year ago and all I got was FLACK from SAWHEADS. How can you buy a ball that the manufacturer doesn't suggest the condition the ball is best used for? What does THEIR TESTING SHOW? Why do I have to spend my money to find out I can't use the ball for what I bowl on? Seems CRAZY to me!
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Brickguy221

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2004, 10:38:26 AM »

I believe to be true, what Steven says about matching up to style/ability as  Storm balls match up to me very well with the same drillings the Lane 1 balls didn't match up to me.
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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2004, 10:46:02 AM »
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How can you buy a ball that the manufacturer doesn't suggest the condition the ball is best used for?  


Joe: You've been around bowling long enough to know that there isn't just one answer to this question -- it's all depends on style (speed, revs, axis tilt, etc.).

For instance, the Super Carbide Bomb (SCB) is advertised as a heavy oil ball, but my doubles partner (higher speed, fewer revs) does well with his on medium type conditions. I have another friend with slow speed and high revs who can score well with a XXXL on the same set of mediums.  

That's why you have to look at the Lane#1 tech data and consider your own style when determining what ball matches best to what condition.

This is no different from choosing a ball from any other company.
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JustinM

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2004, 10:54:50 AM »
Uranium Pearl - Med oil with some carrydown
Cherry Bomb - Med oil fresh backends this is a giant (similar to Green Gargoyle)
XXL - Light oil slides a lot in oil unless drilled pretty strong
Carbide LRG - Likes oil revs early and very controlled

Thats my two cents. Have not thrown the Dirty bomb or Uranium Solid

Uranium Solid looks similar to Lrg but with a little more action.

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T-GOD

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2004, 12:39:43 PM »
Storm, most Lane #1 balls can cover most conditions, except for the extremes. In that case, you will need an extreme ball, like the XXXL or the Super Carbide Bomb.

The Pearl Uranium works better on the fresh, because of it's smooth roll, where the Dirty Bomb jerks more off the dry.

As Steven has stated, it all depends on your game. For the most part, all of Lane #1's medium range balls can be used to work well on almost any condition, depending on your game and/or ball layout. =:^D
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JOE FALCO

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2004, 05:19:09 PM »
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I asked this question a year ago and all I got was FLACK from SAWHEADS. How can you buy a ball that the manufacturer doesn't suggest the condition the ball is best used for? What does THEIR TESTING SHOW? Why do I have to spend my money to find out I can't use the ball for what I bowl on? Seems CRAZY to me!
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I guess I understand how a BOWLER has an effect on how a ball will roll .. above in RED is what I want from the manufacturer. And I honestly don't understand WHY they don't provide it? I don't expect to get the same results as DUKE if I use the ball he uses for the TV games .. but when I'm looking to spend money for a ball I want something to go on other then the recommendations of the local PRO SHOP .. I'd like to hear ir directly from the manufacturer .. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? Even ball reviewers in BOWLING MAGAZINES suggest what condition the ball is best used on .. the MANUFACTURER CAN'T? That really throws me!
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Steven

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2004, 05:33:50 PM »
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I'd like to hear ir directly from the manufacturer .. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?  


Joe: The answer is yes. It's too much to ask because it's not possible to give a single accurate answer to a general and varied bowling population.

The best (and only real) way to judge reaction within a given company line is to buy a ball in the middle of their reaction chart, lay down a control drill, and see how the ball reacts for you. Using that ball as a benchmark, you can then more accurately predict how the other balls in their lineup will probably react.

This is one of the advantages of staying with one company. You have a leg up in predicting reaction when a new ball hits the market.
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JOE FALCO

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2004, 07:18:37 PM »
So funny to hear you say YES it's too much to ask! Then I read BALL TESTERS in both BOWLERS JOURNAL and BOWLING THIS MONTH and after testing various balls they suggest where the ball fits in best! Strange how I can do that by doing some research and these Test people can do it after trying the ball but yet the MANUFACTURER CAN'T DO IT WHEN HE'S TESTING?

Isn't the truth of the matter that certain companies will not state what they KNOW because it will limit the bowlers that will avail themselves of the ball? If I was looking for a ball for LIGHT OIL conditions and the MANUFACTURER says it's best used for HEAVY OIL .. would I buy it? Since I asked the question of myself .. I'll answer: NO! I think that's more close to the answer to the original question.

I remember conversations with certain bowlers before .. I have said my thoughts but I know we will stray from the question and go to other things .. go ahead and have the last word .. I'm satisfied that I've made my point!
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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2004, 07:24:40 PM »
Couldn't they always just say "For the average speed bowler with average revs and average rotation/tilt, the ball is suited for ------ condition"???

I think that's what Joe is getting at.
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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2004, 08:46:42 PM »
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I read BALL TESTERS in both BOWLERS JOURNAL and BOWLING THIS MONTH and after testing various balls they suggest where the ball fits in best!  


Joe: They certainly make the attempt, because they have too. And in most cases their attempts are sincere, but they miss the mark as least as much as they are right, simply because there are too many variables.

Just look here at BR. Taking the Ultimate Inferno as an example, some say it's a hook monster in oil, some call it a solid medium condition ball, and others complain that they've been duped because they can't get it to move anywhere and/or anytime.

Who is right, and who is wrong? The answer is that they're all different bowlers with different styles and abilities, so they legitimately see different things.

The bottom line? It comes down to experience and common sense. Outside the extremes, it's not rocket science to figure out which balls fall on the light to medium side of the scale, and which fall in the medium to heavy. If you can't figure it out, hook up with someone who knows your game to help you evaluate. In either case, if you're close, a spinner and all the appropriate supplies (scothbrite, sandpaper, polishes, etc.) will get you where you need to be for desired reaction.  

As T-GOD said well:

 
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For the most part, all of Lane #1's medium range balls can be used to work well on almost any condition, depending on your game and/or ball layout.


With a little after the fact tweaking, the above statement is 100% true. Therefore, the best thing a company can do is give you a clear understanding of their equipment by comparative ranking of each piece, and to allow you to take it from there.

Given this, why is there confusion?

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JOE FALCO

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Re: Lane 1 Balls and Conditions...
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2004, 09:07:56 PM »
I wonder how STORM does this .. better get a hold of them and straighten them out!

http://www.stormbowling.com/

Note their new releases!
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