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Equipment Boards => Lane #1 => Topic started by: kidlost2000 on July 10, 2013, 08:27:51 PM
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What was the last Lane 1 ball produced to use Brunswick covers? Always been curious.
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I suspect it was around the time of the Cobalt Bomb, which may not have been the last Brunswick ball. (The Uraniums, Golden Nugget, Bulletand Bombs were all Brunswick/Bayer covers.
The Gforce balls were the first set to use 900G/Old Columbia covers.
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Ok. Was hoping to try some of the older ones with the Brunswick covers
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Ok. Was hoping to try some of the older ones with the Brunswick covers
I've owned many of the older Brunswick-poured Lane #1 pieces and they are every bit as good as the Brunswick pieces of the same era, especially those with the C2 core in it (Blueberry, Pink Raspberry, Black Raspberry Pearl Cherry, and Emerald). The Lane #1 diehards pay premium prices for these, even pieces with multiple drills. So be prepared.
I would rank the Blueberry/C2 with it's PK18 cover as one of the best balls I've ever owned. The Viper Pearl, with a reactive Rhino Pro cover (not sure which one) was also one of the hardest hitting balls I've thrown and a great piece. Reminded me a lot of my Gold Rhino Pro. The Bullet was a dry lane gem. And the Gold Nugget was a unique piece given the PK17 particle shell. I sold mine but just got a single drill one off Craigslist for $10.
Many people swear by the Cherry Bomb and Black Cherry Bomb, but I never matched up with the Bomb core.
Anyway, many great balls to choose from, as long as you are willing to pay. I sold all of mine off except for the Retro Buzzsaw THS, which has Superflex (Columbia 300) and ranks just barely behind my Versa Max as the best ball I've ever owned.
And yes Jeff is correct Brunswick poured everything up until the G-Force was introduced in 2007.
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The G-force era is where I have seen the most older ones available. Which is why I was hoping they were still Big B.
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The G-force era is where I have seen the most older ones available. Which is why I was hoping they were still Big B.
IMO it is no coincidence that they were the first non - Brunswick balls and the ones most readily available.
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I have no issues with any brand. Brunswick is what I started with in the late 90s as a teen with a Sapphire Zone. The Zone series at that time was huge and Ive had a lot of luck with the equipment every since. I love the PK17 and PK18 coverstocks and own plenty of bowling balls with them. I think the new SK13 will be another continuation of that success.
It isn't worth a lot of $$$ to try that on the Lane 1 cores. I will probably look to some of the other releases to give a try instead.
Thanks for the info. Great to know.
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I was looking for this ball on the Lane#1 website listing of their retired balls - Uranium HRG. It was not in their listing. I found here:
http://www.ballreviews.com/lane-1/uranium-hrg-t775.0.html (http://www.ballreviews.com/lane-1/uranium-hrg-t775.0.html)
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=3061 (http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=3061)
I tried it and it was probably the Lane#1 ball that I had the least success with. Even though it had the Uranium name (all the rest were made by Brunswick), I think it was the first or one of the first made by 900Gobal.
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Now i am wondering. Any one know who/what covers are on the current lane 1 balls?
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I thought they were still 900/AMF
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I thought they were still 900/AMF
I had not heard that they moved from 900G.
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The Lane # Uranium (solid and pearl) were the last Brunswick covers on a Lane #1 ball. Oddly enough, the Uranium HRG was a Columbia poured cover, and the first non-Brunswick cover on a Lane #1 ball, to the best of my knowledge.
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That was right before Columbia jumped ship to Ebonite, and I believe the Uranium HRG is the only ball they (Columbia) poured for Lane #1.
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I believe 900 Global took over the covers with the G-Force line.
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My understanding is Columbia 300 took over at the G-Force series and that 900G currently pours for them. The Uranium HRG was the only Uranium without the dense core inside the diamond and was IMO a dud.
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Yeah dougb, I wasn't sure if Columbia poured the G-Force line or not. I am pretty sure that the Uranium HRG was a Columbia poured ball.
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Now i am wondering. Any one know who/what covers are on the current lane 1 balls?
Not sure what you heard or why you brought this subject up.
I asked and someone who should know says 900G is still manufacturing Lane#1 balls
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Columbia did pour a few before Ebonite bought Columbia! The 900 Global plant is the old Columbia plant in San Antonio! Just my $.02, Bruce
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Columbia did pour a few before Ebonite bought Columbia! The 900 Global plant is the old Columbia plant in San Antonio! Just my $.02, Bruce
Actually about 6 months ago, more or less, they were in the midst of moving to a new plant in the same city, SA.
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Just prior to the g force balls... Maybe the Uranium series? I loved original carbide, the c2 cored balls...and maybe alone, but like the cranberry.
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I have had alot of lane one balls and my 3 favorites in no specific order were the pink panther,pearl cherry C2,& gforce evolution.... The original curve was awesome too. I also had both a pearl cherry bomb and black cherry bomb those didnt roll well for me ... But the premiums so.e guys pay or ask for are crazy..
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If I am not mistaken the Carbide + was the straw that broke the camel's back between Lane 1 and Brunswick. The Enriched Uranium was the last of the successful Brunswick poured Lane 1 balls.
Oddly enough hybrid coverstocks are all the rage today. Lane 1 had the first hybrid I can remember being called a hybrid.....the Hybrid Dirty Bomb in 2005.
Go figure.....
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If I am not mistaken the Carbide + was the straw that broke the camel's back between Lane 1 and Brunswick. The Enriched Uranium was the last of the successful Brunswick poured Lane 1 balls.
Oddly enough hybrid coverstocks are all the rage today. Lane 1 had the first hybrid I can remember being called a hybrid.....the Hybrid Dirty Bomb in 2005.
Go figure.....
I believe the Hot Rod Hybrid trumped the Hybrid Dirty Bomb by a few months... it's on the approved list at December 2004
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What is the true definition of a hybrid coverstock? This is a term that came about around that time but is likely not regulated in any way to mean say a 50/50 mix or 60/40 ect. It is a term introduced that could have been around for much longer. (Reactice urethane/reactive resin ect)
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What is the true definition of a hybrid coverstock? This is a term that came about around that time but is likely not regulated in any way to mean say a 50/50 mix or 60/40 ect. It is a term introduced that could have been around for much longer. (Reactice urethane/reactive resin ect)
I was not talking about merely the coverstock being blended. I was referring to the ball being advertised as featuring a "Hybrid" cover or being labeled as such. I assumed that was what Doug was referring to as well.
There was a Surge Limited Edition manufactured by Columbia that was noted as having a hybrid urethane coverstock, but in this case it was referring to mica being added to the urethane cover, not the blending of two different cover types.
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I understand. Just wanting to know if theres an industry standard or the definition and how much it may have been used prior to the label "hybrid" and also since the term. What balls that may be a hybrid and never been labelled as such. Out of curiosity.
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I understand. Just wanting to know if theres an industry standard or the definition and how much it may have been used prior to the label "hybrid" and also since the term. What balls that may be a hybrid and never been labelled as such. Out of curiosity.
I remember the Scout Urethane Hi Flare. It was not only urethane, it was also a solid/pearl combo coverstock. It was never marketed as such.
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=2721 (http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=2721)
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What is the true definition of a hybrid coverstock? This is a term that came about around that time but is likely not regulated in any way to mean say a 50/50 mix or 60/40 ect. It is a term introduced that could have been around for much longer. (Reactice urethane/reactive resin ect)
I was not talking about merely the coverstock being blended. I was referring to the ball being advertised as featuring a "Hybrid" cover or being labeled as such. I assumed that was what Doug was referring to as well.
There was a Surge Limited Edition manufactured by Columbia that was noted as having a hybrid urethane coverstock, but in this case it was referring to mica being added to the urethane cover, not the blending of two different cover types.
Both the regular Surge and the Power Surge had mica added to the solid coverstock.
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=554 (http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=554)
I still have one of each.
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Jeff, I was referring to this ball...
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=1038 (http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=1038)
http://columbia300.com/products/detail_retired_balls/surge_limited/ (http://columbia300.com/products/detail_retired_balls/surge_limited/)
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Jeff, I was referring to this ball...
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=1038 (http://www.123bowl.com/ball.cfm?ballid=1038)
http://columbia300.com/products/detail_retired_balls/surge_limited/ (http://columbia300.com/products/detail_retired_balls/surge_limited/)
Understood.
Not sure how Columbia might have referred it as a Hybrid when the Scout Hi-Flare urethane wasn't.
I just was saying that the regular Surges also had mica (used as particles, like Storm and Radical had done) yet also were NOT referred to as hybrids. Not sure why, but as has been mentioned a hybrid can be a combination of many different types. LaneMasters mixed particle pearl with particle solids. Storm mixed particle solid with plain resin solid (Secret or Special Agent).
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if not mistaken the uranium solid was the last ball produced by Brunswick, the uranium hrg was poured by Columbia in SA prior to buy out. the supernova solid was a Columbia ball using M80 stock. the supernova xp test balls were poured by storm in Utah. absolutely the best ball they produced. gave me 2 300 games when it came out. Global 900 pours the lane 1 stuff currently.
as far as the best Brunswick poured balls. my all time favorite was the black raspberry. pk18 with a c2 core
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Didn't Enriched Uranium come out after the solid? The Particle Pearl Silver ball.