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slumpp

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pink raspberry experiment
« on: September 17, 2006, 12:18:54 PM »
Last year I bought back a pink that I had sold to a fellow team mate.  It was drilled axis, and I never had luck with it.  After I got it back I had it redrilled basic 3 3/8 stacked, with a small weight hole in the thumb quadrant to take out some thumb weight (pin put below fingers).  At that time the ball surface was 600 sanded, and I had some very good luck with it.  Today I polished it with some storm polish and wanted to throw it to see the difference in reaction.  I also have a C2 cherry drilled the same way.  In short for me, with this ball and drilling the polish was a mistake.  Ball became very flippy with more of a skid snap reaction versus the arc reaction I had before.  Also before the breakpoint was very easy to read, while with the polish it was not as consistant.  So off with the polish.  Wondering if anyone has had the same reactions with their equipment.
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Re: pink raspberry experiment
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2006, 08:34:25 PM »
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Last year I bought back a pink that I had sold to a fellow team mate.  It was drilled axis, and I never had luck with it.  After I got it back I had it redrilled basic 3 3/8 stacked, with a small weight hole in the thumb quadrant to take out some thumb weight (pin put below fingers).  At that time the ball surface was 600 sanded, and I had some very good luck with it.  Today I polished it with some storm polish and wanted to throw it to see the difference in reaction.  I also have a C2 cherry drilled the same way.  In short for me, with this ball and drilling the polish was a mistake.  Ball became very flippy with more of a skid snap reaction versus the arc reaction I had before.  Also before the breakpoint was very easy to read, while with the polish it was not as consistant.  So off with the polish.  Wondering if anyone has had the same reactions with their equipment.


A PK 18 cover sanded to 600 grit and drilled pin on axis can almost be used by anyone on true heavy oil today, and little else: a relatively condition specific ball.
The Pink Raspberry, drilled stacked leverage and polished ,is a medium ball for most people, on today's conditions. The ball with that drilling and that coverstock can be manipulated to be almost anything to anybody. It is infinitely more usable of many conditions by small adjustments to the surface finish.

That said, many people found that core far too strong and unmanageable with a TRUE stacked leverage drill. Still it's much better than a pin on axis drill.

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Re: pink raspberry experiment
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2006, 07:59:47 PM »
Charlie, I definately agree with you about the drilling.  And I do think that eventually I am going to hit the cherry I have with 1000 grit too just to kill alot of the snappyness with that ball.  I guess I am getting tired of the hockey stick look with alot of balls and drillings.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006, 08:13:32 PM »
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Charlie, I definately agree with you about the drilling.  And I do think that eventually I am going to hit the cherry I have with 1000 grit too just to kill alot of the snappyness with that ball.  I guess I am getting tired of the hockey stick look with alot of balls and drillings.


May I suggest a hand scuffing with a green nylon pad, until it gets to the point where you need/want it?

Often, especially on the strong PK 18 coverstock or its variants, a 1000 grit sanding (a thorough one, I mean) will change the ball considerably, taking it up almost a full notch in oil handling and make it hook much earlier. You might need a light touch or only a 2000 grit sanding. In any case, it's easier to take it a step at a time, rather than to have to go backwards and then forwards again.

Good luck. That's an excellent ball.

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Re: pink raspberry experiment
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2006, 08:11:25 PM »
Charlie,

I probably will hit it one step at a time, and I do have some 3000 body sponges I was thinking of hitting it with at first.
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charlest

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2006, 08:30:49 PM »
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Charlie,

I probably will hit it one step at a time, and I do have some 3000 body sponges I was thinking of hitting it with at first.


Never heard of them, "3000 (grit) body sponges"? What are they? where do you get them?

As long as you're sure they're 3000 grit, they should be fine to try. My feeling is that a good starting point might be between 1000 and 2000 grit, but that's only a feeling.
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Re: pink raspberry experiment
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2006, 03:17:36 PM »
charlie

Got them from an auto body supply shop.  Mirka is the manufactor, and the one's I have are 4000, not 3000.  Definately some fine paper (sponges).
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charlest

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2006, 04:24:04 PM »
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Got them from an auto body supply shop.  Mirka is the manufactor, and the one's I have are 4000, not 3000.  Definately some fine paper (sponges).


Probably Abralon. It may be hard to get it to 4000 directly, without first taking it to 2000 grit.

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Re: pink raspberry experiment
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2006, 07:15:42 PM »
I have been using abralon, including the 4000, for quite some time. I take a polished ball & hit it with the 4000 which just takes some of the skid/flip off the reaction. Also when taking a ball up, I go 500, 1000, 2000, then 4000, & it puts a great finish on the ball without it being actually polished.
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