Author Topic: Lane 1 Leaving Brunswick (Read 15922 times)

Retroman · « **on:** August 16, 2006, 04:51:19 AM »

Well, It looks like the lane 1 bruns relationship is nearing an end, The word is that lane 1 is going to Columbia as there new Manufacturer for there balls, There has been rumors that it was Ebonite, But i had it confirmed that it was not, And it won't be Brunswick, So That would leave Storm or Columbia as the Major mfg left.

I hope that Columbia would have there act together as far as there coverstocks are concerned because i was not impressed with there stuff in the past....

, I hope that this does not become a bad move on there part as lane 1's balls in my opinion have been superior.
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Rileybowler · « **Reply #31 on:** August 16, 2006, 05:42:09 PM »

Mexico can make a ball a whole lot cheaper than the USA can thats just a fact labor is so much cheaper there tah here.I work for a metals service center and we can buy metal in China' Germany, or Japan pay the shipping cost and its still cheaper than we can get the metal for that's made right here in the USA
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CoachJim · « **Reply #32 on:** August 16, 2006, 05:55:28 PM »

If Lane #1 really wanted to be "Patriotic" they would partner up with MoRich and buy Brunswick's old US plant, retool it and rehire everyone that got laid off. They could probably buy the raw materials from Brunswick and keep with business as usual.

Wolfstrike · « **Reply #33 on:** August 16, 2006, 06:15:34 PM »

Columbia Is buying Up companys and production B/c they lost money last year and there plant Runs better and more cost effective if its running 3 shifts basically 24hours a day....thats why there doing there C300/track/and amf300/and now dynothane and now lane1........They make money doing this stuff I dont think it has any bearing on brunswick to mexico.I think columbia is giving them a better deal and there able to run a plant at better costs......

J_Mac · « **Reply #34 on:** August 16, 2006, 07:22:22 PM »

So let's see here... Wouldn't this move mean that Lane #1 would have to retire EVERYTHING with a Big B cover?

What I'm really trying to point out is that L#1 could no longer produce any ball with the SCB core under the grandfathered differential rule.

On the other hand, are balls with that much differential going to be disallowed after a certain point in time, or are they grandfathered forever?
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Saw Mill · « **Reply #35 on:** August 16, 2006, 07:57:58 PM »

I am glad though that they are staying in the US of A. I am sure with all the covers Columbia makes (between Track, AMF, and Themselves), that they will find those that will match up extremely well. A ball driller in Vegas told me that it should be easy, since the core is the most gyometrically sound that it can't go wrong. I will stay with Lane 1 no matter who they choose to pour their covers. Maybe they will be cheaper so Lane 1 can offer prices that some people will not gripe about.

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joe 26 · « **Reply #36 on:** August 16, 2006, 08:11:08 PM »

cheaper would be nice, but i would still buy them anyway.

Saw Mill · « **Reply #37 on:** August 16, 2006, 08:20:29 PM »

True joe, very true; I concur.

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Retroman · « **Reply #38 on:** August 16, 2006, 08:22:50 PM »

I bet the price does not change much, But the taste thats stays in my mouth and it is a bad 1 is the 30 game Death of the TEC covers and the cracking, weeping coverstock of the epoxy resin EPX, We have not had to tolerate any bad batches of balls, But i am very skeptical that columbia will be able provide us with a superior product like what we have now, As far as i am concerned, The confidece for me is not there.
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Doug Sterner · « **Reply #39 on:** August 16, 2006, 08:30:26 PM »

I would anticipate a HUGE R&D project on Lane 1's behalf if this rumor is true.

I would anticipate Lane 1 to attempt to duplicate the reaction they are getting from the current line balls. Take the Tsunami core and have the techs at C-300 formulate a coverstock that gives the closest reaction possible to what they have now.

I have not been a fan of Columbia coverstocks since the original Purple Resin Beast.

I could see 3 possible scenarios for the switch: again these are potential reasons...I have no confirmation as to the potential truth of this rumor.

1. Lane 1 could possibly want to stay made in the USA.
2. Brunswick could possibly charge more per ball due to the "advanced technology" in their new plant.
3. Lane 1 could potentially not be happy with an increased wait time on the ball production and replenishment.

We all know the Brunswick coverstocks and Lane 1 cores are a great match up. There has to be some HUGE reason behind a switch if it's happening....

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Retroman · « **Reply #40 on:** August 16, 2006, 08:45:30 PM »

Doug, Those are all good points, And i would think cost has to be a major factor, Lets face it exporting materials cost more money then importing materials, One thing i do know for sure, It is definatly not Ebonite and it won't be Brunswick a formal anouncement is forthcoming.
Don't everybody find it kind of odd that all the ball mfg have came out with there balls for the upcoming season and lane 1 has been kind of laying back with anything new, other then the Solid Cobalt
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Jesse James · « **Reply #41 on:** August 16, 2006, 08:48:05 PM »

Regardless of the reason for the switch, I won't be using Lane 1's due to them already being overpriced!

..........and have already crossed off Big B, just for outsourcing there plant and leaving the country! Ya gotta have some principles somewhere!
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MegaMav · « **Reply #42 on:** August 16, 2006, 08:51:03 PM »

I considered Lane #1 as the top "custom" bowling manufacturer up until now.

thinking up new core/cover combos that other manufacturers wouldnt come close to.

now with the move i think they will shuffle back into the pack of Dynothane/Mo-Rich/Insite/RotoGrip/Visionary

the elite custom company now has to be Legends & Lane Masters.

i have not tried their product, but have heard many great things.

Retroman · « **Reply #43 on:** August 16, 2006, 08:51:15 PM »

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Doug, Those are all good points, And i would think cost has to be a major factor, Lets face it exporting materials cost more money then importing materials, One thing i do know for sure, It is definatly not Ebonite and it won't be Brunswick a formal anouncement is forthcoming.
Don't everybody find it kind of odd that all the ball mfg have came out with there balls for the upcoming season and lane 1 has been kind of laying back with anything new, other then the Solid Cobalt

That's because the Solid Cobalt is the last ball Brunswick is contracted to make.

I fully understand that, But they are missing out on the New Ball sales that are generated at the beginning of the fall season when most people will buy new equipment. So my thinking is they are already behind the 8 ball for the upcoming season.
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Retroman · « **Reply #44 on:** August 16, 2006, 08:58:10 PM »

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I considered Lane #1 as the top "custom" bowling manufacturer up until now.

thinking up new core/cover combos that other manufacturers wouldnt come close to.

now with the move i think they will shuffle back into the pack of Dynothane/Mo-Rich/Insite/RotoGrip/Visionary

the elite custom company now has to be Legends & Lane Masters.

i have not tried their product, but have heard many great things.

Mav, Lane Masters does have some decent equipment as i have one of there balls, But they need to produce more with a lot less overlap, If you look at a lot of there balls they are all pretty similar to each other with subtle differences between them so ball reactions would be a lot alike, Elite seems to have that same issue.
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Retroman · « **Reply #45 on:** August 16, 2006, 09:16:52 PM »

I am sure they can, But when would the 1st balls be available? Nobody knows as of yet as a formal announcement has not been made, right now is when most people pick up there new equipment, Before the season starts so they can work with it the 1st few weeks into leagues, Thats is why all the mfg have august releases, I am not saying they won't sell any they are just missing out on the early buying "Frenzy"
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