Post by: AK47 on February 18, 2009, 05:00:17 AM
.... anyways, my house @ the time was dominated by Morich (meaning all the great bowlers 200+ avg). I honestly felt like Lane #1 was better, so i made a goal to make Lane #1 known and take over Morich. So, i bought more buzzsaws, bought the shirts, the 4 ball bag, 2 ball tote. You'd be shocked how many people down here who did not have a clue of Lane #1. After my 1st 300 (EU)some would ask what are you throwing and i'd say Lane #1 and they would say, who makes them, lol! Then we won our league last year and i had the highest avg on our team, more people took noitce......After my pro shop guy started plugging and working on all my saws, he gained confidence in Lane 1 and now carries Lane #1 and now they are all over the place.... if you don't believe me ask chuck @ Lane 1 how many saws he sold to Bowler's Depot in Jackson, Ms in 2007 vs 2009... Also, thanks to Chuck, my pro shop guy thinks the world of you and will do anything you tell him, lol! He's finally carrying Abralon Pads.... Also, Chuck you'd be pleased to know that my pro shop guy, used to be a Roto Grip man, Now he's rolling AO, BUZZBOMB! Sorry for long post, but mission accomplished.--------------------
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Post by: Roy Munson on February 18, 2009, 01:18:15 PM
. . . troll bait
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on February 18, 2009, 01:23:17 PM
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on February 18, 2009, 03:06:39 PM
My biggest complaint about Lane #1 is, why dont they pour their own stuff? Why did they not ever develop that part of the company?
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Post by: Kid Jete on February 18, 2009, 03:13:46 PM
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LOL!
My biggest complaint about Lane #1 is, why dont they pour their own stuff? Why did they not ever develop that part of the company?
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Lane #1 are the barnacles of the bowling world.
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Post by: bowlerdawg on February 18, 2009, 09:15:48 PM
if somebody else will do it why should they ? ( pour their own )
why doesnt AMF pour there own, why does Storm outsource some of their equiptment, why doesn't morich pour their own etc...etc....etc
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Post by: bowlerdawg on February 18, 2009, 09:31:01 PM
useless troll
you took the bait.............lol
Post by: Doug Sterner on February 18, 2009, 09:34:19 PM
Another reason is the support material needed to produce the balls....
Then there's the need for more space and a lease.....
Then the increased staffing needed to finish off the balls....truing, surfacing, weighing, engraving, boxing etc.
It is far more economical for Lane 1 to outsource the production to 900 Global (which I am sure Phil is happy about with the current economy).
Perhaps one day Lane 1 balls will be made in house and be all theirs....
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Post by: bowlerdawg on February 18, 2009, 09:51:18 PM
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on February 18, 2009, 10:49:02 PM
Im not trolling, I'm just being curious.
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Post by: scotts33 on February 18, 2009, 11:01:50 PM
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The cost of a quality polymer chemist is significant. More than likely that's the biggest reason for not doing their own covers.
Another reason is the support material needed to produce the balls....
Then there's the need for more space and a lease.....
Then the increased staffing needed to finish off the balls....truing, surfacing, weighing, engraving, boxing etc.
It is far more economical for Lane 1 to outsource the production to 900 Global (which I am sure Phil is happy about with the current economy).
Perhaps one day Lane 1 balls will be made in house and be all theirs....
Doug,
Not to be a jerk here but have you seen LM/L's manufacturing facilities? Alarge facility you do not need. Take a look at these pics from my drillers website at the LM/L facility in Stockton, CA. http://robbaileysproshop.com/aspx/vgp.aspx A semi-large warehouse type facility you would need but it's not like it's Hopkinsville or something.
There are other reasons why small companies MoRich, Lane #1 and others have not decided to manufacturer their own equipment. Why are MoRich and Lane #1 at the top of the pricing range? Give you a guess.
What did Insite and Banger fail? Give you a guess? Why do LM/L and Visionary succeed? Cuz they control their manufacturing costs. Pretty simple for me to understand.--------------------
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Post by: Kid Jete on February 18, 2009, 11:02:21 PM
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Then why is the MSRP so high if its cheaper/more cost efficient?
Im not trolling, I'm just being curious.
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If you think it's high now imagine what it would be like if they poured their own covers.
Post by: bowlerdawg on February 19, 2009, 07:03:51 AM
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on February 19, 2009, 08:21:35 AM
quote:quote:
The cost of a quality polymer chemist is significant. More than likely that's the biggest reason for not doing their own covers.
Another reason is the support material needed to produce the balls....
Then there's the need for more space and a lease.....
Then the increased staffing needed to finish off the balls....truing, surfacing, weighing, engraving, boxing etc.
It is far more economical for Lane 1 to outsource the production to 900 Global (which I am sure Phil is happy about with the current economy).
Perhaps one day Lane 1 balls will be made in house and be all theirs....
Doug,
Not to be a jerk here but have you seen LM/L's manufacturing facilities? Alarge facility you do not need. Take a look at these pics from my drillers website at the LM/L facility in Stockton, CA. http://robbaileysproshop.com/aspx/vgp.aspx A semi-large warehouse type facility you would need but it's not like it's Hopkinsville or something.
There are other reasons why small companies MoRich, Lane #1 and others have not decided to manufacturer their own equipment. Why are MoRich and Lane #1 at the top of the pricing range? Give you a guess.
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Good points Scott. I think Banger and InSite failed due to horrible money mismanagement.
L/LM have a high price point too but I give them the benefit of being a small company, who does their own stuff...
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Edited on 2/19/2009 9:29 AM
Post by: burly1 on February 19, 2009, 09:21:36 AM
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Post by: AK47 on February 19, 2009, 09:47:54 AM
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on February 19, 2009, 01:47:54 PM
Storm and Rotogrip are huge followed by the Big E, once in awhile a Brunswick ball is on the rack usually an older one like one of the zones or inferno series.
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on February 19, 2009, 02:04:51 PM
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Someone asked me one time "How do you eat an elephant"? The answer, One bite at a time. There's no need to rush into all this expense just to say i pour my own. If it's not broke, then don't fix it. I'm quite sure that Richie would love to have the privilege of pouring his own stuff. However, I'm quite sure that he has investigated the matter and weighed it in the balance and has come to the conclusion that right now isn't the proper time to jump into this endeavor. However, if we continue to have stories, like the story i posted, then there would be enough $upply for such a facility. Patience Danielson!
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Ok, who pours Lane #1's stuff? Global, correct? Global also pours their own stuff and AMF. Global and AMF stuff is significantly cheaper then Lane #1 stuff. Why is that?
To me its like a car, you have someone with a engine/transmission combo and has lets say Ford make the rest of the chassis, electrical etc., then sticks their powerplant in the chassis calls it their own, and then hypes living you know what out of it, its ridiculous to me.
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Post by: burly1 on February 19, 2009, 03:15:19 PM
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Post by: AK47 on February 19, 2009, 03:29:15 PM
There are 2 guy throwing TSUNAMI'S one has like a 225 avg and the other 217 .... So others are trying to find the BALL, they can give a rip about who poured it. If Lane #1, poured by whoever was crap, then i wouldn't be a supporter. If they poured their own and it was crap i wouldn't own 'em. The balls work for me and ALL who have made the transition @ my house, and that's all that matters --------------------
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Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on February 19, 2009, 08:13:45 PM
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You know what's funny is.... NO ONE in my house has ever asked me who pours Lane #1 balls, lol! They just ask me where did you get all those buzzsaws
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Congrats on the transition
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Post by: Doug Sterner on February 22, 2009, 04:33:46 PM
"I'll tell you what...I am so confident this ball will work for you I'll get one in, drill it up for you and you throw it. If you like it you buy it. If you don't like it, give me $25 to cover my drill time and the inserts/ slug and I'll sell you the one you want at my cost."
Up to this point I have had exactly 1 bowler come back to me and not like his ball. This has allowed me to get various less-known equipment out there and seen by people.
I let the customer make the comparison...It works.......
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