Author Topic: Massacre red death (Read 5834 times)

triggerman · « **on:** September 24, 2009, 01:46:00 AM »

Punched my pre release ball last week, ended up going 70*x5.5x30* a vastly different drilling for myself, this gave me a high pin above ring, left the ball in OOB and tried it last monday for really the first time. lets just say WOW i did not expect what I saw out of this ball at all. we run on a 42ft THS its a top hat buffed to about 44 ft decent volume in the heads but a lot of the bowlers still complain that the lanes dry out?? well anyway, threw a few practice shots with it and decided to give it a go. first game open with a 5 bagger flush next two solid tens strike 8th 9 pin in the ninth and then 3 to close it out. what surpised me was even in OOB 2k abralon surface this ball made it down lane with ease, it revs hard and just screams off the spot, very angular for a solid and once again that hit I am accustomed to getting from lane 1. lots of league guys looking to see what it was. its one of those balls i can watch rev and you see exactly what it is doing. push it down lane get it to the break and it roars back. by comparision (which isnt much due to pearl vs solid) my epicenter by seismic was 5 boards weaker on the same line,
was able to use the RD all night, with a total of a 5 and 3 move. easy ball to throw, easy recovery. I have good speed at the deck (~17.0) and good revs (400+) and this ball responded well to speed and revs, no midlane hook up, no starting early, did exactly what I was looking for, cant wait to try it on a longer pattern, as I think it will really shine. this ball has already taken the place of my favorite dynamo, at this point I feel it is leaps above the dynamo, will post more once I get some more games on it
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Roy Munson · « **Reply #1 on:** September 24, 2009, 11:59:11 AM »

This may be a great ball to have for the Nationals!
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triggerman · « **Reply #2 on:** September 24, 2009, 12:19:23 PM »

I was completely impressed with it on our longish pattern, hoping to get out on the shark and the usbc open shot soon to really get a fell for it

to replace my dynamo so quickly is saying something, I have certain peices that never leave my bag and the dynamo was one I figured i would never put down, but guess what, this ball completely took its place with ease, i think the RD is that much better
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Adrenaline · « **Reply #3 on:** September 24, 2009, 05:02:21 PM »

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to replace my dynamo so quickly is saying something

How do you have each of them drilled, and can you be more specific as to how much 'better' the Red Death is, where and how on the lane?
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Roy Munson · « **Reply #4 on:** September 24, 2009, 05:21:38 PM »

Trig mentioned the drill in the 1st sentence, bro. . . . 70*x5.5x30*
That's using Mo's Dual Angle Drilling Technique.

That combination is designed to skid/snap

Now, what's interesting here is that he used it in long oil pattern
and was still able to snap in the back end.

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Edited on 9/24/2009 5:23 PM

Bstorm889 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 24, 2009, 09:37:06 PM »

Pin to PAP(4 1/2" over 1/2" up) - 4 1/2"
Mass Bias Position - N/A
CG to PAP - 4 3/4"
Balance Hole - None

Surface Preparation - Left at Box Finish (2000-grit Abralon)

What I Was Looking For In This Layout: This is the first Lane #1 ball I've gotten to test, so I was pretty excited to see what it could do. I decided to use a neutral drilling on this ball to get a feel for what it could do. With the pin and CG stacked on the center line, I usually get a medium reaction with decent overall hook.

What I Ended Up With In This Ball Layout: This ball by far exceeded my expectations in terms of reaction and control! This ball picked up a roll early in the heads giving me a predictable movement down lane. One thing different that I got from this ball compared to others I've thrown like this is the amount of reaction is has on the backend. Generally when the ball reads the heads as well as this does, you'll get a nice arc to the pocket. With the Massacre Red Death, this ball picked up a roll and still snapped hard off the breakpoint.

I started out using the Massacre Red Death on a freshly oiled house condition. Normally I would stand around 22-25 and play in between the 2-3 arrow. Left at box surface, this was a little strong for me. I started standing on 30 and targeted in between the 3rd and 4th arrow. If I was going to miss, I needed to miss right down the lane. The ball had no problem making up room if I missed right. If I missed left, I could expect a 4 pin or a few stone 9's.

Read the rest of my Lane #1 Massacre Red Death Review at my website. I'll also have a ball reaction video coming out on this release within the next day or so.
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Adrenaline · « **Reply #6 on:** September 24, 2009, 10:53:47 PM »

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Trig mentioned the drill in the 1st sentence, bro. . . . 70*x5.5x30*

I guess the question was more directed at his Dynamo, I worded it incorrectly though, my apologies.

Kid Jete · « **Reply #7 on:** September 24, 2009, 10:56:56 PM »

Wow, already replaced the "ball of the year". Stop the presses.

Roy Munson · « **Reply #8 on:** September 24, 2009, 11:24:13 PM »

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Trig mentioned the drill in the 1st sentence, bro. . . . 70*x5.5x30*

I guess the question was more directed at his Dynamo, I worded it incorrectly though, my apologies.

No apologies required at all.
I believe he had his dynamo at around 50*x5"x30* if I'm not mistaken
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triggerman · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2009, 08:16:35 AM »

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Trig mentioned the drill in the 1st sentence, bro. . . . 70*x5.5x30*

I guess the question was more directed at his Dynamo, I worded it incorrectly though, my apologies.

dynamo is drilled 55*x5x45* this puts the pin in my ring and cg below, as you notice the total angle is the same, but the dynamo drilling puts the pin lower the drillings are similar, what I see out of the dynamo is the same basic shape, but it is earlier, and doesnt rev as hard on the back, it is fantastic on fresh and I litteraly can use it all night, but I had to take the dynamo to 1k abralon with polish to really hit for me. I had it at 4k abralon plus polish and really loved it, but wanted to handle a bit more so I took it back down. The balla are pretty similar, but the RD has more recovery, deceptively long for a solid, I have a similar drilled epicenter and its slightly earlier then the RD
The RD gives me one advantage over the dynamo, I can really throw the RD speeds north of 17 mph at the deck and it still doesnt miss the break, if I get real wide, it will make the pocket fairly often, where as the dynamo struggles outside a bit especially deep. the dynamo is better at holding inside as I dont get the big move on the back. the both reside in the bag and I will use which ever to help me score

last night it was all RD, dismall first game due to my inability, but games 2 and 3 resulted in my going +70 with one open. stayed and pot bowled (150.00 off the table, yes its a figjam) but still was throwing the RD on the same line on a pair of lanes with 35+ games on them

I just love the way it rolls, its long, strong and hits a ton. I get messengers, but they are different then the dynamo, the dynamo throws pins straight across, stuff comes off the side boards hard, the RD on the other hand mixes and the messengers are just as potent but the are the type that spin all over the lanes
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triggerman · « **Reply #10 on:** September 29, 2009, 08:38:36 AM »

ball continues to impress, easy length, very nice pronounced move off the spot, loves the longer oil as we throw on 42 ft buffed to 45 top hat pattern. reminds me a lot of the cherry bomb series with its flip over on the back end. not as violent as the PCB but dang if it doesnt pop over with the best of them. on a christmas tree pattern this ball is crazy hard on the back end, I can go as wide as I want on that pattern and look like I konw what I am doing

great addition to the Lane #1 line up, cover/core match up for me is fantastic
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triggerman · « **Reply #11 on:** September 29, 2009, 09:02:28 AM »

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love to hear how every new ball makes the last greatest ball ever look bad...helps the credibility...not.

never said it made any look bad, read what I said, I said it continues to impress, but rest assured if i couldnt hit the pattern with it, I wouldnt use it, something else would come out of the bag. the weeks I have used it, i put it and the dynamo on the rack for practice, which ever gives me the best look gets the nod, the RD has done that every week since I put it in place. If one were to go back and read what I have said in the past about the dynmao, for this ball to get the nod is really saying something. I dont normally go on about a ball but this one really does continue to impress me

and please understand, I am one of those lane #1 guys, I have litteraly thrown all of their offerings, continue to have some of the "fabled c/2 stuff" and the new stuff continues to impress me, some not so much but the dynamo/RD have been the best two balls from them in a long long time, Ive thrown numbers with some of the other new releases but none of them have been as impressive to me as this ball is, the dynamo is very close and on the right shot will get the nod and look very very good doing it.

All I am trying to convey is that this is a very impressive peice and will fit a lot of styles, OOB it gets easy length and plenty of pop on the backend
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stopncrank · « **Reply #12 on:** September 29, 2009, 11:06:27 AM »

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love to hear how every new ball makes the last greatest ball ever look bad...helps the credibility...not.

yeah, that never happens in the brunswick section, the ebonite section, the track section etc. right? creadibility? how are you contributing to credability when you take an obvious cheap shot towards lane 1? this whole website has lost credibility because of all the negativity and jealousy, just read the ron vokes thread a couple months back for proof. instead of congratulating the guy on a career set and day, he gets bashed because people think the lanes were too easy. if your looking for credability you on the wrong website lol.
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stopncrank · « **Reply #13 on:** September 29, 2009, 11:08:05 AM »

sorry for getting off topic guys. i look forward to seeing the rd, how does it compare to say a virtual gravity roll wise?
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triggerman · « **Reply #14 on:** September 29, 2009, 11:21:34 AM »

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sorry for getting off topic guys. i look forward to seeing the rd, how does it compare to say a virtual gravity roll wise?
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I think it is similar, but the VG from what I have seen seems to struggle as the break point starts to dimish, I have not seen that problem with the RD yet

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