Post by: triggerman on September 24, 2009, 01:46:00 AM
was able to use the RD all night, with a total of a 5 and 3 move. easy ball to throw, easy recovery. I have good speed at the deck (~17.0) and good revs (400+) and this ball responded well to speed and revs, no midlane hook up, no starting early, did exactly what I was looking for, cant wait to try it on a longer pattern, as I think it will really shine. this ball has already taken the place of my favorite dynamo, at this point I feel it is leaps above the dynamo, will post more once I get some more games on it
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Post by: Roy Munson on September 24, 2009, 11:59:11 AM
This may be a great ball to have for the Nationals!
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Post by: triggerman on September 24, 2009, 12:19:23 PM
to replace my dynamo so quickly is saying something, I have certain peices that never leave my bag and the dynamo was one I figured i would never put down, but guess what, this ball completely took its place with ease, i think the RD is that much better
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Post by: Adrenaline on September 24, 2009, 05:02:21 PM
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to replace my dynamo so quickly is saying something
How do you have each of them drilled, and can you be more specific as to how much 'better' the Red Death is, where and how on the lane?
Thanks.
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Post by: Roy Munson on September 24, 2009, 05:21:38 PM
That's using Mo's Dual Angle Drilling Technique.
That combination is designed to skid/snap
Now, what's interesting here is that he used it in long oil pattern
and was still able to snap in the back end.
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Edited on 9/24/2009 5:23 PM
Post by: Bstorm889 on September 24, 2009, 09:37:06 PM
Mass Bias Position - N/A
CG to PAP - 4 3/4"
Balance Hole - None
Surface Preparation - Left at Box Finish (2000-grit Abralon)
What I Was Looking For In This Layout: This is the first Lane #1 ball I've gotten to test, so I was pretty excited to see what it could do. I decided to use a neutral drilling on this ball to get a feel for what it could do. With the pin and CG stacked on the center line, I usually get a medium reaction with decent overall hook.
What I Ended Up With In This Ball Layout: This ball by far exceeded my expectations in terms of reaction and control! This ball picked up a roll early in the heads giving me a predictable movement down lane. One thing different that I got from this ball compared to others I've thrown like this is the amount of reaction is has on the backend. Generally when the ball reads the heads as well as this does, you'll get a nice arc to the pocket. With the Massacre Red Death, this ball picked up a roll and still snapped hard off the breakpoint.
I started out using the Massacre Red Death on a freshly oiled house condition. Normally I would stand around 22-25 and play in between the 2-3 arrow. Left at box surface, this was a little strong for me. I started standing on 30 and targeted in between the 3rd and 4th arrow. If I was going to miss, I needed to miss right down the lane. The ball had no problem making up room if I missed right. If I missed left, I could expect a 4 pin or a few stone 9's.
Read the rest of my Lane #1 Massacre Red Death Review (http://"http://www.brianhalstrom.com/lane-1-massacre-red-death-bowling-ball-review/")at my website. I'll also have a ball reaction video coming out on this release within the next day or so.
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Post by: Adrenaline on September 24, 2009, 10:53:47 PM
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Trig mentioned the drill in the 1st sentence, bro. . . . 70*x5.5x30*
I guess the question was more directed at his Dynamo, I worded it incorrectly though, my apologies.
Post by: Kid Jete on September 24, 2009, 10:56:56 PM
Post by: Roy Munson on September 24, 2009, 11:24:13 PM
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Trig mentioned the drill in the 1st sentence, bro. . . . 70*x5.5x30*
I guess the question was more directed at his Dynamo, I worded it incorrectly though, my apologies.
No apologies required at all.
I believe he had his dynamo at around 50*x5"x30* if I'm not mistaken
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Post by: triggerman on September 25, 2009, 08:16:35 AM
quote:quote:
Trig mentioned the drill in the 1st sentence, bro. . . . 70*x5.5x30*
I guess the question was more directed at his Dynamo, I worded it incorrectly though, my apologies.
dynamo is drilled 55*x5x45* this puts the pin in my ring and cg below, as you notice the total angle is the same, but the dynamo drilling puts the pin lower the drillings are similar, what I see out of the dynamo is the same basic shape, but it is earlier, and doesnt rev as hard on the back, it is fantastic on fresh and I litteraly can use it all night, but I had to take the dynamo to 1k abralon with polish to really hit for me. I had it at 4k abralon plus polish and really loved it, but wanted to handle a bit more so I took it back down. The balla are pretty similar, but the RD has more recovery, deceptively long for a solid, I have a similar drilled epicenter and its slightly earlier then the RD
The RD gives me one advantage over the dynamo, I can really throw the RD speeds north of 17 mph at the deck and it still doesnt miss the break, if I get real wide, it will make the pocket fairly often, where as the dynamo struggles outside a bit especially deep. the dynamo is better at holding inside as I dont get the big move on the back. the both reside in the bag and I will use which ever to help me score
last night it was all RD, dismall first game due to my inability, but games 2 and 3 resulted in my going +70 with one open. stayed and pot bowled (150.00 off the table, yes its a figjam) but still was throwing the RD on the same line on a pair of lanes with 35+ games on them
I just love the way it rolls, its long, strong and hits a ton. I get messengers, but they are different then the dynamo, the dynamo throws pins straight across, stuff comes off the side boards hard, the RD on the other hand mixes and the messengers are just as potent but the are the type that spin all over the lanes
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Post by: triggerman on September 29, 2009, 08:38:36 AM
great addition to the Lane #1 line up, cover/core match up for me is fantastic
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Post by: triggerman on September 29, 2009, 09:02:28 AM
quote:
love to hear how every new ball makes the last greatest ball ever look bad...helps the credibility...not.
never said it made any look bad, read what I said, I said it continues to impress, but rest assured if i couldnt hit the pattern with it, I wouldnt use it, something else would come out of the bag. the weeks I have used it, i put it and the dynamo on the rack for practice, which ever gives me the best look gets the nod, the RD has done that every week since I put it in place. If one were to go back and read what I have said in the past about the dynmao, for this ball to get the nod is really saying something. I dont normally go on about a ball but this one really does continue to impress me
and please understand, I am one of those lane #1 guys, I have litteraly thrown all of their offerings, continue to have some of the "fabled c/2 stuff" and the new stuff continues to impress me, some not so much but the dynamo/RD have been the best two balls from them in a long long time, Ive thrown numbers with some of the other new releases but none of them have been as impressive to me as this ball is, the dynamo is very close and on the right shot will get the nod and look very very good doing it.
All I am trying to convey is that this is a very impressive peice and will fit a lot of styles, OOB it gets easy length and plenty of pop on the backend
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Post by: stopncrank on September 29, 2009, 11:06:27 AM
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love to hear how every new ball makes the last greatest ball ever look bad...helps the credibility...not.
yeah, that never happens in the brunswick section, the ebonite section, the track section etc. right? creadibility? how are you contributing to credability when you take an obvious cheap shot towards lane 1? this whole website has lost credibility because of all the negativity and jealousy, just read the ron vokes thread a couple months back for proof. instead of congratulating the guy on a career set and day, he gets bashed because people think the lanes were too easy. if your looking for credability you on the wrong website lol.
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Post by: stopncrank on September 29, 2009, 11:08:05 AM
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Post by: triggerman on September 29, 2009, 11:21:34 AM
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sorry for getting off topic guys. i look forward to seeing the rd, how does it compare to say a virtual gravity roll wise?
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I think it is similar, but the VG from what I have seen seems to struggle as the break point starts to dimish, I have not seen that problem with the RD yet
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Post by: triggerman on October 05, 2009, 02:48:30 PM
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Post by: 42swaff on October 05, 2009, 03:45:05 PM
Post by: Adrenaline on October 05, 2009, 04:09:50 PM
quote:
love to hear how every new ball makes the last greatest ball ever look bad...helps the credibility...not.
Because everyone wants to buy a new ball with the description:
"Weaker than our last release"
right?
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Post by: Roy Munson on October 05, 2009, 05:52:42 PM
heavier flip block
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Post by: triggerman on October 05, 2009, 09:35:41 PM
listened to every bowler in the house tonight minus a few complain about the shot drying up, i moved 1 board with my feet, 3 at my target and shot 704 and was extremely disappointed in the set, the ball rolled so smooth and powerful, those ill placed shots by me really did me no favors
my sets with this ball thus far 609-610-626-634-663-704 in that sucesssion, from a 210 bowler. need i say more about it, oh and the house is changing the shot every week looking for something that will hold up and keep the whiners from complaining
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Post by: urbanj51 on October 05, 2009, 09:59:45 PM
But then again I could be wrong?
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Post by: Roy Munson on October 05, 2009, 10:01:06 PM
quote:quote:
heavier flip block
Roy isn't it still shorter though? The pictures show it as being shorter.
can't really tell from the pics - but the denser flip block is very interesting
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Roy Munson: "Morning! I hope you don't mind, I got up a little early. So I took the liberty of milking your cow for you. Yeah, it took a little while to get her warmed up. She sure is a stubborn one. Then pow, all at once."
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Post by: Jock on October 06, 2009, 09:21:43 AM
Over here in France you have to really insist to be able to get a Lane 1 ball in your hands but one thing that's really putting me off trying is the name.
Where do the research and development crews get these names from?
It might be your thing, having red death in your hands each night, but it just isn't mine.
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Post by: Roy Munson on October 06, 2009, 12:03:14 PM
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Roy Munson: "Morning! I hope you don't mind, I got up a little early. So I took the liberty of milking your cow for you. Yeah, it took a little while to get her warmed up. She sure is a stubborn one. Then pow, all at once."
Mr. Boorg: "We don't have a cow. We have a bull."
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Post by: urbanj51 on October 06, 2009, 12:26:11 PM
quote:
This might be a good ball, it's hard to tell until you've thrown it.
Over here in France you have to really insist to be able to get a Lane 1 ball in your hands but one thing that's really putting me off trying is the name.
Where do the research and development crews get these names from?
It might be your thing, having red death in your hands each night, but it just isn't mine.
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I've upped my average, so up yours!
Why do you care about the name? If the ball hits, it hits right?
Name and color really matters to you?
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Post by: Kid Jete on October 06, 2009, 12:37:02 PM
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This might be a good ball, it's hard to tell until you've thrown it.
Over here in France you have to really insist to be able to get a Lane 1 ball in your hands but one thing that's really putting me off trying is the name.
Where do the research and development crews get these names from?
It might be your thing, having red death in your hands each night, but it just isn't mine.
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I've upped my average, so up yours!
At least they didn't rip off Jason Voorhees in the ad for this one.