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Storm269

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Matching up
« on: July 21, 2007, 03:17:40 AM »
Does anyone here find that they matches up with lane#1 balls better when it is still with brunswick then after they switched to Columbia ?
For me is a yes...I have tried the HRG and the solid G Force but still finds the older balls works better for me...or maybe it's just me...care to discuss ?
O yes another question...900 Global makes similar coverstock as Columbia ?
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zeusjr

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Re: Matching up
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2007, 02:18:21 PM »
My 2 best balls are the Solid G-Force and the C+.  So I have no problem either way.
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Re: Matching up
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2007, 09:56:14 PM »
No luck with the G-Force yet.  I never mached up well with Columbia.  I wonder how I will match up with Global900.

Brunswick made Lane 1 bowling balls helped my game tremendously.  But I will try one or two Lane 1 Global900 bowling balls to be fair.


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Re: Matching up
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2007, 10:30:53 PM »
I love my H20 but I have seconds thoughts about my Nebula.  I've only thrown it a few games but still.  I'm deffinately considering some Brunswick balls now.
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Storm269

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Re: Matching up
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2007, 08:48:00 AM »
Seems like I am not alone in not matching to Lane#1 core with Columbia cover....

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charlest

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Re: Matching up
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2007, 09:12:55 AM »
It's not the Brunswick or the Columbia-based coverstocks that is the problem. It's the matching up of the coverstock finish, the ball reaction with the bowler's release and the oil pattern and lane surface on which they are being used.

I had to redrill my HRG and change the surface to get what I needed (not "wanted"). Now it is a great ball for the oil pattern/lane surface on which I am bowling this Summer. The same is true for EVERY ball, no matter who made it or what the cover or the core is.

Factors affecting ball reaction:

1. Bowler's release and delivery
2. Oil pattern + Lane Surface
3. Ball's coverstock + surface finish
4. Drilling (a distant 4th)
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Storm269

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Re: Matching up
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2007, 06:10:54 PM »
But Charlest, I am using the same release and delivery and playing in the same bowling center but for Brunswick poured Lane#1 balls we don't even do any adjustment to the ball coverstock finishing. Maybe we will just change the finishing a bit and see how it goes....thanks !
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charlest

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Re: Matching up
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2007, 06:44:13 PM »
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But Charlest, I am using the same release and delivery and playing in the same bowling center but for Brunswick poured Lane#1 balls we don't even do any adjustment to the ball coverstock finishing. Maybe we will just change the finishing a bit and see how it goes....thanks !
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I understand, where you comign from, but don't be disappointed and please, for your own sake, do not make unwarranted assumptions.

The Brunswick covers do make the ball reaction different, but the cores are also different in the B'wick balls and the Columbia balls. YOu're not just buying a Columbia ball vs a Brunswick ball. You're buying a Lane#1 ball.

Remember: you buy a ball reaction (cover + core + drill + surface), not a ball. You or your pro shop have to understand the balls available, the condition (oil pattern and Lane surface) for which you need (not want) the ball and your deliver/release charcteristics, before beginning to make a judgement about what you can use well.  

As more than one manufacturer has stated here on ballreviews: a ball's stock surface is the one intended to be used by the highest percenatge of bowlers (that could be 30% of the people who buy that ball), but not the one for everyone. For most of us, that surface preparation is just a suggestion[/], a starting point for the ball.

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Storm269

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Re: Matching up
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2007, 11:00:11 PM »
Charlest,
I am not making any assumptions it's just my own experience on the two. As I said I will just try to play with the cover of the HRG and G force and see how it goes...thanks!
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charlest

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Re: Matching up
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2007, 04:57:05 AM »
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Charlest,
I am not making any assumptions it's just my own experience on the two. As I said I will just try to play with the cover of the HRG and G force and see how it goes...thanks!
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OOps. I di dnot express myself clearly. By "assumptions" I meant making an incorrect assumption about some characteristic of a ball and then, as a result, trying to force that ball to work for a "condition" for your release, when it might not be appropriate. Like the HRG being a fairly high RG and being very flippy type of ball: extreme length and extreme backend with normal drillings. I made that assumption also. I personally needed a much, much earlier rolling drill for that ball.

Based on that, I now believe the HRG is not for fresh oil, but for very broken down oil patterns or it requires almost a pin on axis (PAP) drill to create a "normal" reacting pearl resin.

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Storm269

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Re: Matching up
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2007, 05:19:36 AM »
Hi Charlest no prob....I actually agreed with what you have mentioned. The way the bowlers release the ball, his rev rate and his speed actually plays a big part in how a ball reacts. Like I said the HRG didn't work for me but there are bowlers in the league that used it on the fresh oiled lanes and got very good reaction from it. And there are two bowlers using the G force, one of them is me, for the league while I am stuggling with it, the other guys is striking at will...sign...shake head..
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charlest

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Re: Matching up
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2007, 05:44:15 AM »
DC38,

I hear you. Don't hesitate, if a ball is not reacting correctly for you, after a few uses, to modify the cover's finish in small stages. It can't hurt, but it sure could help. Good luck.

Regarding the HRG, if people are getting good results with normal drills, (and you and I did not), their release/delivery could be a very rolly one. Older strokers and few younger ones do have that sort of release. There are soooooo many variables involved in a ball's reaction.
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