Post by: Nicanor on July 08, 2009, 07:15:25 AM
I have 3 Mega Frictions and 2 Buzzbombs and 2 Dynamos that I have been comparing. I believe all three bowling balls are made by 900 Global, so its not a slam against either company (except I still think the Buzzbomb was a dud and a flop).
But next to me in league on the lanes just left of me a guy was throwing a Mega Friction and a Buzzbomb. It was a house shot, good oil in the middle and the dry was 8 and out. He has a Dynamo but didn't throw it today. He seen me throwing the Mega Friction and he put his Buzzbpmb baack in the bag though he wasn't doing that bad.
The buzzbomb gave him very little area right to recover but when he hit his mark, the ball carried well. But the Buzzbomb is a control ball as compared to the Mega Friction and the area and carry of the Mega Friction was much better then the Buzzbomb for this bowler. The Mega Friction has to get a few games into it before it becomes the monster that it is. He could miss right and the Mega Friction would recover with authority, the Buzzbomb puked.
I had one of my Mega Frictions with me and one of my Dynamos. The Dynamo covers more boards then the Mega Frcition, but the Mega Friction is a lot more consistant and release friendly. The Mega Friction explodes the pins and carry is much better then the Dynamo. I'm averaging 226 in this league with the Megaton Friction with the pin along side the ring finger cg to the right a touch, 3 inch pin. My pap is 4 7/8 and 5/8 up, ball speed about 17.5 mph.
In a league in another house where the oil is a little shorter I've been using a Megaton Friction with the pin about 1 1/2 inches above the ring finger pin to cg about 3 inches and the cg slightly to the right. I'm averaging 224 at this house.
As most of you know, I didn't care for the Buzzbomb and watching someone else throw the Megaton Friction along side the Buzzbomb made a believer out of me.
I think the Dynamo is tremendosu and I'll work with the surface a little. I also ordered the Dynamo 2X and a Gemstone, so this not a slam against Lane 1, but if you haven't I would recommend a Mega Frcition if you want to get all the hype that was given for the Buzzbomb. They could have used the Buzzbomb advertisement for the Mega Friction and been right on.
No need responding to this post to defend Lane 1, but if you have thrown and compared the three bowling balls, please let us know about your findings.
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Post by: Steven on July 08, 2009, 05:11:38 PM
For those of us who find that the BuzzBomb does live up to it's billing, I think there would be too much overlap with the Mega Friction. I don't know what the purpose would be in owning both. And if I was buying a new hook monster, the Dynamo would probably be my choice -- it's just more versatile. If I come up the back of the ball, I can duplicate a Mega Friction (or BuzzBomb) kind of reaction. Come around the Dynamo, I can get backend the Mega Friction can't generate. As lanes transition, I would rather have more versatility in one piece than have to change balls.
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Post by: Nicanor on July 08, 2009, 05:27:46 PM
This is another post you should have stayed out of. You have neither the Mega Friction or the Dynamo. I have all three and the guy I bowl with weekly in two leagues, different teams, has all three and we both have the Agent Orange.
The sound of the Mega Friction hitting the pocket is tremendous. The way the Mega Friction keeps the pins low and carries the light hits are great. The Buzzbomb in your own words is a condition specific ball and you hardly use it. The Mega friction is a med/heavy, more medium and can be used for the most part if not all of the three games moving left and following the oil line.
The Mega fricition is the ball the Buzzbomb was suppose to be because it reads the mid lane fairly well and has a thunderous backend, just like the Buzzbomb was suppose to do. Its still controllable and handles carry down without a problem.
This response from you Steven adds credibility to all those who say you support Lane 1 blindly and try and push your position without doing your homework.
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Post by: Juggernaut on July 08, 2009, 05:32:40 PM
WHO DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?
Popcorn anyone?
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Post by: Steven on July 08, 2009, 05:44:49 PM
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This is another post you should have stayed out of. You have neither the Mega Friction or the Dynamo.
Nic: You either don't read the Lane#1 forum, or quickly forget what you do read. Yes, I do own the Dynamo. Please see the following:
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=236678&ForumID=7&CategoryID=2
And I have thrown the Mega Friction. The proshop owner I use has almost identical span/pitch specs to mine, and he lets me try out all the new toys his distributor sends him to test out.
He recently drilled up a Mega Friction, and I got a chance to throw it side-by-side with the BuzzBomb on a test pair set up with Shark. The Mega is an impressive ball, but I stand by what I said previously. There is too much overlap with the BuzzBomb to intentionally own both.Sorry if stating the truth on the overlap bothers you.
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Post by: Nicanor on July 08, 2009, 06:28:02 PM
This is part of the post above, that is why I thought you did not have a Dynamo.
And if I was buying a new hook monster, the Dynamo would probably be my choice -- it's just more versatile
There is no way the Mega Friction overlaps the Buzzbomb. You said before you hardly use your Buzzbomb and that its a condition specific ball. I'll give you that. The Mega Friction is not a specific conditon ball. It can be used on lane conditions from medium all the way to heavier oil. You could not throw the Buzzbomb on the same line as the Mega Fricition because the Mega fricition would make the Buzzbomb look bad.
I have personal experience of throwing my own bowling balls for more frames then a couple of games. I also own more then one, drilled differently and at different houses. I also got to see someone else throw all three bowling balls at two different houses.
If you never owned a Mega Friction, then how do you know how versatile it is? Thats right, you threw someone elses.
In order to compare the three and to say one is more versatile then the other, you have to take all three balls through the steps. Sand, polish, Abalron 1000-4000, hign pin, low pins, different houses and different lane conditions. You did not do this. We did, two different bowlers pwning our own bowling balls and not trying to convince everyone else that Lane 1 is better then any other company.
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Post by: Gazoo on July 08, 2009, 06:49:41 PM
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Post by: Nicanor on July 08, 2009, 06:59:55 PM
We compare bowling balls from different manufactuers all the time indifferent forums. This isn't the first time.
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Post by: Steven on July 08, 2009, 07:27:08 PM
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There is no way the Mega Friction overlaps the Buzzbomb. You said before you hardly use your Buzzbomb and that its a condition specific ball. I'll give you that. The Mega Friction is not a specific condition ball. It can be used on lane conditions from medium all the way to heavier oil. You could not throw the Buzzbomb on the same line as the Mega Fricition because the Mega fricition would make the Buzzbomb look bad.
Nic: The term 'hardly using a ball' is relative. I use the BuzzBomb enough on fresh condition PBAX leagues, rolloffs and occasional tournaments to know what the ball is about. No, I don't use the BuzzBomb near as much as my XP which logs a whole lot of games because it's versatile across real world broken down shots. But the BuzzBomb fits it's intended niche. As far as the Mega making the BuzzBomb look bad, that's your specific opinion. It's by no means universal or binding.
Both the Mega and the BuzzBomb are aggressive balls meant for fresh conditions with head oil. If you can use the Mega effectively OOB on second shift with broken down heads, you have a unique style that wouldn't be meaningful to many others evaluating your assessments.
It's true that my throwing another bowler's Mega for the equivalent of two games doesn't make for a perfect review. But the grip is almost identical to my own, and I've purchased many non-Lane#1 balls based on results of these tests with the Proshop owner's equipment. I threw the two side-by-side on a condition both balls are designed for. I'm comfortable I got enough of a feel to offer a relevant opinion.
Again, there is no reason to be defensive about this. The BuzzBomb aside, the Dynamo is simply a more versatile ball than the Mega Friction. It's doesn't make the Mega bad, just more specific.
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Post by: Nicanor on July 08, 2009, 08:46:55 PM
The only thing I have done to the two Mega Frictions was to keep them clean with Remedy RX and drilled them differently. Can I use them on a second shift where the lanes have dried quite a lot, no, but I can't use the Black Raspberry, either Dynamo or either Megat Friction. Thats why I have a polished Jolt solid, Neptune and a Gemstone on the way. I usually go from my Megat Friction to my Hot sauce pearl.
The Mega Friction is not a condition specific ball and as I have said and up to now you haven't questioned, is that the Mega Friction performs as the Buzzbomb was advertised and you can stay with the Mega friction much longer. I have a third Mega Friction undrilled and was considering drilling it or polishing it, but I think I'll go with the Sideways first and keep the Mega Friction to drill mid season if needed.
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Post by: John D Davis on July 08, 2009, 10:00:26 PM
Keep in mind that I have never thrown a Mega Friction, but I have seen many in action. I think the Mage and the Buzzbomb are very close in reactions. Both ball are very condition specific and I do think both balls take surface changes pretty well for the most part.
As far as the Dynamo goes, I think its in a totally different category as the other two. I feel like it takes surface changes much better, hand position changes, and also is more forgiving with patterns... My overall hook of the Dynamo is much less than my Buzzbomb on the heavy stuff. Keep in mind my Dynamo is at 4K no polish right now and just rolls amazing on everything I throw it on. I just cant say that about my Buzzbomb. However both balls are going nowhere!!! John
Post by: Nicanor on July 08, 2009, 10:57:18 PM
The post also says if they want to see all the hype in a ball that the Buzzbomb put out, to try a MF. That is an opinion and one that was done with working with all three bowling balls.
You see, I did a lot of research of these balls, coverstock prep, drillings etc and this is how I see these bowling balls. I spent a lot of time throwing these bowling balls and I'm currently avearging 224 or better in two different houses.
So these are my conclusions and the conclusions of the member in my league who throws the same equipment.
You can not convince me that the Buzzbomb and the Mega Frction overlap to where having both in your arsenal wouldn't be benifical. The Buzzbomb in my arseanal is a non starter.
The Dynamo cover does adjust very well and is very versatile but if I have a chance to use my MF over the Dynamo, I will because its more consistent, release friendly and carry is great.
Those of you who read and some reply saying, "I've seen them thrown a lot". There isn't a lot of Buzzbombs or Dynamos out there or the MF. Probably more of the MF then the Buzzbomb and the Dynamo.
Those of you who threw a friends a couple of games, did not drill your own and spend the time I have with ball drillings and surface adjustments. If you have, I would be willing to believe the Buzzbomb and the MF do not overlap and that the Dynamo is a different animal.
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Post by: JOE FALCO on July 08, 2009, 11:20:11 PM
In my opinion you documented your experience on a couple of balls .. think that's what BR is for .. don't know what all the fuss is about .. I thank you for explaining your experiences .. makes me feel better ..
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Post by: mmcfarland300 on July 09, 2009, 08:37:34 AM
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Nic .. I know very few people like to get involved with these Lane 1 fanatics but I want to just say that I have the BB and the MF .. although I have not gone through all the SURFACE PREPS and other tests that you have .. I agree with you about the MF being a much more useable ball then the BB. Fact is my BB has been shelved for quite a while!
In my opinion you documented your experience on a couple of balls .. think that's what BR is for .. don't know what all the fuss is about .. I thank you for explaining your experiences .. makes me feel better ..
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Joe I am like you when it comes to this. Nic kudos on the testing and documentation but Steven will never agree with you as he is too close minded to listen to anyones documented testing other than his own.
Post by: Nicanor on July 09, 2009, 10:11:21 AM
Those of you who have a Mega Friction, throw the ball for a while and the ball will get a little more length. The MF is not a light oil ball or a short oil ball, this I know. But medium to medium heavy, this ball is true. It gets down the lane fairly easy (I wouldn't think it would with slower speeds)reads the break point very well and the carry is amazing. I read some post that says they threw the ball only a couple of games and put it up for sale or trade. If they are bowling on shorter or lighter oil, I understand. But if they have a THS shot and did not give it some break in games, they lost out.
900 Global is making some great bowling balls. For me personally, I didn't match up with the Break or the Buzzbomb. The Break had potential but cracked. Two Buzzbombs three different drilings all kind of surface adjustments, dud and a flop.
The Dynamo on the other hand, I agree with Steven. The ball is very vesatile. I've had mine from 1000 ablaron through polished and the surface adjusts very easily. After I get the Dynamo 2X, I will find a spot for the Dynamo. The Dynamo will cover many boards, agreed. But the Dynamo is a little sensative to release. A slight adjustment in release will move this ball boards quickly or lack of boards quickly. Its the same for most hook monsters. Its like throwing your strike ball at the 10 pin. Fast, up the back and maybe with broken wrist, you make the 10 pin. Come around the ball a little and just before it gets to the 10 pins, because of the little side turn, the ball grabs and you miss the 10 pin to the left. This is the Dynamo.
The Mega friction is more release friendly and carry is better without question.
Am I saying that the MF is a better ball then the Buzzbomb or the Dynamo. The Buzzbomb just sucked, so yes for the Buzzbomb, without question. The Dynamo is different because the Dynamo has so much potential with easy surface adjustments. But if I have a condition where i could throw my MF or my Dynamo, I will throw my MF mostly because the ball is more user friendly and carry is better.
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Post by: NoseofRI on July 09, 2009, 01:00:57 PM
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on July 09, 2009, 01:25:41 PM
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Who in their right mind needs 3 mega frictions, 2 buzzbombs AND 2 dynamos. No wonder the cost of oil is going up again, you have all of it in your 2 triple rollers.
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Post by: Rockbowler on July 09, 2009, 01:29:41 PM
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Who in their right mind needs 3 mega frictions, 2 buzzbombs AND 2 dynamos. No wonder the cost of oil is going up again, you have all of it in your 2 triple rollers.
Post by: Steven on July 09, 2009, 02:10:17 PM
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Nic kudos on the testing and documentation but Steven will never agree with you as he is too close minded to listen to anyones documented testing other than his own.
mmcfarland300: I can always count on you to offer opinions on Lane#1 subjects where you apparently don't have a clue. Congratulations on an unblemished track record.
If I have a strong opinion on the BuzzBomb, it's because I've effectively used the ball numerous times on heavier oil patterns. The first competitive situation where I used the BuzzBomb netted a nice $400 check. You might call that a FIGJAM, but it's fact and an indication of what the ball is capable of accomplishing.
I have no issue with Nic not liking the BuzzBomb. Not all balls are loved or even liked by all bowlers. It's his insistence that the ball is an absolute dud that I take exception to. What he's not allowing that many bowlers match up to it very well.
For the brief time I was able to test it, I found the Mega Friction to be a very nice heavy rolling ball -- very consistent and continuous. I can see why Nic likes it. For me, on Shark, I found it overlaps the BuzzBomb to a large degree. Personally, I found that Mega=Big and Friction=Grab. At least for my style of bowling, the concept of "Big Grab" and THS bowling are inconsistent. This will be be different for others based on their individual styles.
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Post by: mmcfarland300 on July 09, 2009, 02:21:29 PM
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Nic kudos on the testing and documentation but Steven will never agree with you as he is too close minded to listen to anyones documented testing other than his own.
mmcfarland300: I can always count on you to offer opinions on Lane#1 subjects where you apparently don't have a clue. Congratulations on an unblemished track record.
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And again you show nothing but your close mindedness. I again will state I have no problems with Lane 1 or those that use them. If you match up well with them so be it. My issue is with those Lane 1 users who do nothing but run their mouths about how anyone who doesn't succeed with them is horrible and should quit bowling (I'm obviously embelishing but you get the point) over the top supporters who can't see someones opinion at any time. Steven I have complimented you multiple times in the past over your knowledge....I just see you being unaccepting that any ball could be better than a diamond. The point of the post was that the MF was in Nic's opinion what the BB was originally billed as.
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Post by: NoseofRI on July 09, 2009, 02:35:38 PM
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If anyone can afford it, why not? Do I sense jealousy?quote:
Who in their right mind needs 3 mega frictions, 2 buzzbombs AND 2 dynamos. No wonder the cost of oil is going up again, you have all of it in your 2 triple rollers.
Jealousy? Of what? Having 7 balls that can only be used like 3 times a year in a specific tournament that floods the lane? Clearly you know nothing about ball reaction and strength compared to lane condition if your suggesting jealousy. But hey maybe your right, maybe I'm just jealous that I'm not a 150 rev puss knuckling hack that needs multiple of every biggest hooking ball on the market because its the only way I might actually be able to hook a ball...
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Post by: Rockbowler on July 09, 2009, 02:47:58 PM
For a Brunswick Advisor Staff member, you sure are quick to jump to conclusions. Nic can speak for himself but you have not seen him bowl and you are equating his owning a lot of balls to 150 revs and not being able to hook the ball?
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If anyone can afford it, why not? Do I sense jealousy?quote:
Who in their right mind needs 3 mega frictions, 2 buzzbombs AND 2 dynamos. No wonder the cost of oil is going up again, you have all of it in your 2 triple rollers.
Jealousy? Of what? Having 7 balls that can only be used like 3 times a year in a specific tournament that floods the lane? Clearly you know nothing about ball reaction and strength compared to lane condition if your suggesting jealousy. But hey maybe your right, maybe I'm just jealous that I'm not a 150 rev puss knuckling hack that needs multiple of every biggest hooking ball on the market because its the only way I might actually be able to hook a ball...
Post by: Nicanor on July 09, 2009, 03:20:59 PM
Yes I have 2 Buzzbombs that are duds. Yes I have 2 Dynamos that are in my practice bag. Yes, I have 3 Megatons, one not drilled and the two that are drilled are drilled differently for two different houses.
You make it sound as though i roll all these bowling balls into the lanes at one time. How funny.
For those that are tired of reading these post, don't open them, put me on your ignore list. but if you do, I will never ask you over for dinner again. Oh, I've never met you. Get the point?
I have over 150 bowling balls. I just put over 30 Lane 1 bowling balls up for sale. Look at the bowling balls and you'll see I had the whole gamit. Fromm the XXXL to the Dynamo.
The post talked about the comparison between three bowling balls. Don't like my opinion. I can respect that. The Buzzbomb was a dud and a flop. My point about the Mega Friction is if little ole me can throw the Mega Friction and have the reaction the Buzzbomb promised, then Lane 1 wouldn't be in such a hurt locker as it was after the release of the DUD.
you guys get over it, the Buzzbomb hurt Lane 1. I bet it was close to making them fold. Thats why no PBA allowed balls or even a booth in Vegas where they should have easily sold enough balls to make the Vegas adventure profitable. If you can't read between the lines, then i can understand why you think the Buzzbomb in your bag for that one specific day of the year when it might work for you. right out of Steven's fingers.
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Post by: NoseofRI on July 09, 2009, 03:40:41 PM
quote:Um actually no. I actually came to the conclusion that he can't hook a ball because he owns 3 MEGA FRICTIONS, 2 BUZZBOMBS, AND 2 DYNAMOS. To any sensible person with a little bowling ball knowledge, the same conclusion would have been drawn.
Nic can speak for himself but you have not seen him bowl and you are equating his owning a lot of balls to 150 revs and not being able to hook the ball?
Now, you also took the time to research and use me being a Brunswick Advisory Member in your argument, so again I'll ask, being that I get deals on bowling equipment, why would I be jealous that he can "afford all these bowling balls?"
Post by: Nicanor on July 09, 2009, 04:13:37 PM
You know I think the Buzzbomb is a dud. so why would i even take them to the lanes for leagues or tournaments?
So thats two out of the bag from the start.
If you read prior posts, you knew that I only take one MF into a league. I've already mentioned I take into league a Jolt solid, waiting for the Gemstone, a Black Raspberry, Hot Sauce, MF, Cell pearl and a Blue Dot. Thats only six. When I pot bowl or practice I use the Dynamos, 2nd Dimension, Neptune, Domination, Storm Ice and the Agent Orange.
I avaerage around 224. Even on a house shot, thats not bad. Not great.
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Post by: Rockbowler on July 09, 2009, 04:39:41 PM
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Rock, I'm just simply amazed that you managed to make even less sense and seem MORE clueless than you did by calling me jealous. I own a lot more bowling balls than 7, so you're way off on that. The fact that I was questioning the reason for having 7 of those 3 specific bowling balls, and you said I was jealous showed you have no bowling knowledge, as there's no reason to have 7 HEAVY OIL BALLS. Owning 3 Mega Frictions is even over-the-top.quote:Um actually no. I actually came to the conclusion that he can't hook a ball because he owns 3 MEGA FRICTIONS, 2 BUZZBOMBS, AND 2 DYNAMOS. To any sensible person with a little bowling ball knowledge, the same conclusion would have been drawn.
Nic can speak for himself but you have not seen him bowl and you are equating his owning a lot of balls to 150 revs and not being able to hook the ball?
Now, you also took the time to research and use me being a Brunswick Advisory Member in your argument, so again I'll ask, being that I get deals on bowling equipment, why would I be jealous that he can "afford all these bowling balls?"
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Post by: JOE FALCO on July 09, 2009, 05:24:37 PM
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Post by: Gazoo on July 09, 2009, 06:50:31 PM
I don't think anyone would have a problem with a ball comparsion. It's the repeated use of the "Dud/Flop" to describe a certain ball. That's done to strictly "stir the pot". You would have to know that the Lane1 faithful are not going to be throwing Amf equiqment so your not going to get much in the way of comparsion. If you leave out the negative terms, you might get more dialogue from them. This reminds me of the constant attacks in the Ebonite forum by some that their coverstocks suck,"die in 20 games" and the Ebonite faithful defending them. Everyone wants to hear your experiences and everyone else's. Just leave out the shots that cause some to want to respond. Your post was quite good up until the word "puked" was used. Leave these "stir the pot" terms out and you have a good discussion!
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Post by: themachine300 on July 09, 2009, 09:23:40 PM
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Post by: Nicanor on July 09, 2009, 09:55:30 PM
That the term "puked" is not only my term. It was the term about what happens to the Buzzbomb when the ball was drilled with bottom weight. It wasn't even the term I started. The term started when the discussion came about that the Buzzbomb needed to have top weight and not bottom weight. If the Buzzbomb was drilled with the revs leaverage drill according to the Lane 1 drill sheet, the ball would puke. Not my staement at all. I used it afterward because it explained why my ball didn't work for me. Even Richie told me the ball would not work witth this drilling after I shippet doesn't make a differenced the ball to Lane 1, they plugged and sent back.
Themachine300, the problem with your response to my post is that you didn't read all the post where I explained that I had one MF undrilled and two others drilled differently for different houses. It even makes less sense because most on the forum know I think the Buzzbomb is a dud and I don't take either Buzzbomb to league or tournaments.
It doesn't make a difference how many bowling balls I have, its how I build an arsenal and how I score. I know that there are bowlers that bring in every hook monster they own to league and tournaments. They probably wouldn't average what i average and have the versatile game I have.
This was a ball comparison post, like it or not.
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Post by: themachine300 on July 09, 2009, 10:04:41 PM
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Post by: Monster Pike on July 09, 2009, 10:10:02 PM
Post by: Gazoo on July 09, 2009, 11:28:21 PM
You don't get it. The Buzzbomb is probably the best ball available.
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Post by: Nicanor on July 09, 2009, 11:49:42 PM
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Post by: JOE FALCO on July 10, 2009, 08:28:07 AM
I've seen posting on BR where members duplicate their writings on different forums and they were corrected for their action. The fact that you wrote this under Lane 1 and not AMF is understandable in my books!
I also read this a s a comparison from your experience. Seems to me that you went through a big expense to gain your knowledge then took the time to share it with BR members.
To take you over the coal for this is TERRIBLE! But .. if I were you I'd feel very proud of the fact that so many Users have taking exception to your thoughts. To me that's an indication that they hold you in GREAT RESPECT! In my opinion they are right in this case .. you seem to have done your homework.
I congratulate you!
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Post by: Nicanor on July 10, 2009, 09:04:08 AM
I know several I bowl with that have a touramnet arsenal, league arsenal and a practice arsenal. I'm sure a lot of the bereayers also have more then one arsenal especially if they are bowling touraments and regionals.
For me, I could not even put the Buzzbomb in my practice arsenal because it screwed me up so bad trying to use it. It was easy to find a place in my league bag for the MF. The two Dynamos drilled differently I take to practice with me because I am also working on surface adjustments. One Dynamo has a double thumb and doesn't swing as well with the second dynamo. The second Dynamo I can move as deep as I like. The second Dynamo carries the swing shot better then the first Dynamo and the first Dynamo carries the down and in shot better then the second Dynamo. Whenever they become available I will put a Dynamo 2X in the mix and two Gemstones.
Without question I can get deeper with the Dynamo then the MF. So I have to work out the difference of reading the lanes fast enought to make the difference between the MF and the Dynamo. Somewhere down the road I'm going to throw a Sideways in the mix, maybe to swap out with an aging Hot sauce pearl.
Thanks again for the responses. I respect everyone's opinion and comments as long as they are made with good intentions.
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Post by: mmcfarland300 on July 10, 2009, 09:17:28 AM
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Nic,
You don't get it. The Buzzbomb is probably the best ball available.
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What are you smoking?
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I forgot to put in, For heavier volumes!
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Post by: Steven on July 10, 2009, 11:59:04 AM
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I just see you being unaccepting that any ball could be better than a diamond. The point of the post was that the MF was in Nic's opinion what the BB was originally billed as.
mmcfarland300: I don't recall in this thread (or any thread) stating or inferring that I'm 'being unaccepting that any ball could be better than a diamond'. In this thread, I gave the MF some nice props. I don't know how many times I have to say that I also throw selected pieces from Columbia, Ebonite and Hammer. I'm in a position where I do get to briefly test out lots of different stuff, and I'll buy a non-Lane#1 ball if I like the reaction and it fills a niche I don't already have.
I don't have the time or the energy to attempt to buy and test almost every new ball on the market in order find equipment that's "better" than Lane#1. I started focusing on Lane#1 a few years back because I found their ball reaction to be predictable across the different cover/core combinations. I got tired of Storm and Ebonite constantly reinventing themselves with new and different ball lines each summer.
When you get to a point of understanding the different diamond based cores and how they react to different drillings, buying new equipment is no longer a crap shoot. Given that they also perform more than acceptably, I'll take that combination any day.
I can't help that Nic seems to buy equipment based on what he 'thinks' a ball has been billed as. An informed bowling consumer should look at the core/cover specs and project how a ball should react for him/her. Nothing more and nothing less. I did that with the BuzzBomb, and it does what it's designed for -- gets you into an early heavy roll with continuous backend where there is enough head oil to support the reaction.
I expect the bantering here will continue, and I'll enjoy the show.
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Post by: NoseofRI on July 10, 2009, 12:35:20 PM
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But who made you judge, jury and executioner to say that there is no reason to have 7 heavy oil balls? Nic can have all the heavy oil balls and all the bowling balls he wants. Also, he knows what he is doing as he has different surfaces and drills. He just said he has 150 bowling balls. Is there a reason to have all that many? If he can afford it, why not? It is his prerogative. Also, this is the ballreviews site and Nic is testing/reviewing the balls and sharing it with us. What more do you want?
Nothing like a change of subject to avoid the fact that you called me jealous and were COMPLETELY wrong. I don't have an issue with the comparisons, I was simply questioning the reason for having THAT many of THOSE particular balls, then you come in and say I'm jealous. I wasn't trying to be judge, jury and executioner, but yes I was judging, that's what people do after reading or hearing something, they make their own judgement. I travel all over the Northeast bowling tournaments and have NEVER needed so many oilers as Nicanor has for simply league. So after reading that he has these's balls AND the layouts that are on them I drew a conclusion of his style. I may have been wrong but if he's using these in league, either the lanes are just completely flooded and EVERYONE those ONLY these type of balls or there's something in his style that when there is a bit more volume he has issues getting a ball to roll and hook.
His comparison was good, he's a ball whore, he gives reviews, fine no problem, but you called me jealous, I proved you wrong, end of story, thanks for playing.
Post by: Rockbowler on July 10, 2009, 02:00:53 PM
And if you are one of those who just have to have the last say, go ahead.
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But who made you judge, jury and executioner to say that there is no reason to have 7 heavy oil balls? Nic can have all the heavy oil balls and all the bowling balls he wants. Also, he knows what he is doing as he has different surfaces and drills. He just said he has 150 bowling balls. Is there a reason to have all that many? If he can afford it, why not? It is his prerogative. Also, this is the ballreviews site and Nic is testing/reviewing the balls and sharing it with us. What more do you want?
Nothing like a change of subject to avoid the fact that you called me jealous and were COMPLETELY wrong. I don't have an issue with the comparisons, I was simply questioning the reason for having THAT many of THOSE particular balls, then you come in and say I'm jealous. I wasn't trying to be judge, jury and executioner, but yes I was judging, that's what people do after reading or hearing something, they make their own judgement. I travel all over the Northeast bowling tournaments and have NEVER needed so many oilers as Nicanor has for simply league. So after reading that he has these's balls AND the layouts that are on them I drew a conclusion of his style. I may have been wrong but if he's using these in league, either the lanes are just completely flooded and EVERYONE those ONLY these type of balls or there's something in his style that when there is a bit more volume he has issues getting a ball to roll and hook.
His comparison was good, he's a ball whore, he gives reviews, fine no problem, but you called me jealous, I proved you wrong, end of story, thanks for playing.
Post by: NoseofRI on July 10, 2009, 02:12:27 PM
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You are jealous that Nicanor can afford all those balls.
You're right, you never did call me jealous. Guess I read this wrong.
Post by: Rockbowler on July 10, 2009, 02:19:30 PM
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You are jealous that Nicanor can afford all those balls.
You're right, you never did call me jealous. Guess I read this wrong.
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on July 10, 2009, 02:21:39 PM
Post by: Rockbowler on July 10, 2009, 02:41:02 PM
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Gee thanks Nic, now you have me wanting to try a MF and Sideways. Just when I had my heart set on that new Virtual Gravity you post this.
Post by: Nicanor on July 10, 2009, 03:51:39 PM
Sir-Bowl-A-Lot,
Did you mean the new Virtual Energy. I'm going to shoot myself for typing this but, I did not match up with the Dimension. The Virtual Gravity was a great ball. The 2nd Dimension is a tremendsou ball and though I have not thrown the Virtual Energy, the ball is beautiful and seems to be stronger on the back end.
My ball speed is somewhat fast but i can adjust it as necessary. But my A game is a rather fast ball speed with a medium ball track. That might allow me to use a ball that would seem to aggressive on some lane conditions but not for other bowlers with higher ball tracks and slower ball speed.
Practiced again today with another bowler (not the same bowler that I bowl league with) who has the Dynamo (that I recommended he buy) and I practiced with both my Dynamos and the 2nd Dimension.
One of my Dynamos was explosive and the other needs help, maybe a balnce hole. The flare rings are extremely close. The other bowler using the Dynamo made the lanes look easy and after I gave him a little hint, the Dynamo was extremely consistant and had outstanding carry.
Thanks agin for the replies.
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Post by: Rockbowler on July 10, 2009, 04:35:11 PM
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Rockbowler, Did we bowl up in the Freemont area a couple of years ago with Doc and Pchee2.
Nicanor,
Yes that was me.
I share the same good experiences with the Virtual Gravity, 2nd Dimension and I just got the Virtual Energy which is another wonderful ball. I placed second in an ABT tournament using the 2nd Dimension exclusively a few months ago. I did not match up with Storm before but most of their current offerings have been great for me.
I have not purchased a Lane 1 ball since the Buzzbomb which was inconsistent for me. My teammate got the Dynamo and he is bowling good with it. One other ball that may have gone unnoticed but is a gem is the Uprising. I bowled great with it in the CA USBC team event. Our team is currently in 6th place.
Hope to see you soon when you get a chance to visit again.
Post by: Nicanor on July 10, 2009, 04:58:15 PM
Glad you did well in State and ABT. I've averaged out of NABI and ABT and I'm thinking about seeing whats happening on the West Coast Senior tour. Don't even know if its still active.
I wsa building a motorcycle for Easyrider about 4 1/2 years ago and while riding on another motorcycle to get parts I was hit by a woman driver driving a truck. The skin healed fast but my Bursa sac in my right elbow had major problems and it took me a long time to get the arm strong again. I've won major motorcylce shows during the time my elbow was healing and then I started to get strong again. While going on a Labor day ride this past Labor day I was hit by another woman driver in a pickup truck. Lost a lot of skin, medium concusion, seperated right should, back injury and neck injury. I am still getting stronger. I spent the last 11 months rebuilding the bike and building a show 1969 Corvette. Now that I'm strong again, I'm working hard on my game and looking for the advantages of the bowling equipment that match up to my game.
Hope all is well with you,
Barry
Edited on 7/10/2009 5:00 PM
Post by: Rockbowler on July 10, 2009, 05:12:38 PM
Take care.
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Great Rockbowler. Did you use to throw a couple of Uraniums pearls?
Glad you did well in State and ABT. I've averaged out of NABI and ABT and I'm thinking about seeing whats happening on the West Coast Senior tour. Don't even know if its still active.
I wsa building a motorcycle for Easyrider about 4 1/2 years ago and while riding on another motorcycle to get parts I was hit by a woman driver driving a truck. The skin healed fast but my Bursa sac in my right elbow had major problems and it took me a long time to get the arm strong again. I've won major motorcylce shows during the time my elbow was healing and then I started to get strong again. While going on a Labor day ride this past Labor day I was hit by another woman driver in a pickup truck. Lost a lot of skin, medium concusion, seperated right should, back injury and neck injury. I am still getting stronger. I spent the last 11 months rebuilding the bike and building a show 1969 Corvette. Now that I'm strong again, I'm working hard on my game and looking for the advantages of the bowling equipment that match up to my game.
Hope all is well with you,
Barry
Edited on 7/10/2009 5:00 PM
Post by: mmcfarland300 on July 11, 2009, 08:51:13 AM
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Great Rockbowler. Did you use to throw a couple of Uraniums pearls?
Glad you did well in State and ABT. I've averaged out of NABI and ABT and I'm thinking about seeing whats happening on the West Coast Senior tour. Don't even know if its still active.
I wsa building a motorcycle for Easyrider about 4 1/2 years ago and while riding on another motorcycle to get parts I was hit by a woman driver driving a truck. The skin healed fast but my Bursa sac in my right elbow had major problems and it took me a long time to get the arm strong again. I've won major motorcylce shows during the time my elbow was healing and then I started to get strong again. While going on a Labor day ride this past Labor day I was hit by another woman driver in a pickup truck. Lost a lot of skin, medium concusion, seperated right should, back injury and neck injury. I am still getting stronger. I spent the last 11 months rebuilding the bike and building a show 1969 Corvette. Now that I'm strong again, I'm working hard on my game and looking for the advantages of the bowling equipment that match up to my game.
Hope all is well with you,
Barry
Edited on 7/10/2009 5:00 PM
Dude sounds like you need to look at retiring from the bike riding partner.
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Post by: Nicanor on July 11, 2009, 09:40:59 AM
Motorcycling is in my blood and bowling is just something to do in between rides.
Thank you for the recommendation though. My wife didn't even recommend that.
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