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JessN16

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My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« on: September 26, 2008, 06:31:06 AM »
I noticed novawagonmaster had the same issue -- what gives?

I'm going to add a little polish when I drill it up, since I'm looking for some length in the front, but did some of these things come dull on purpose, and if so, why? By adding polish, am I doing something to this ball that Lane #1 didn't intend?

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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2008, 12:58:30 PM »
because cgnomaddah,,...
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JessN16

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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2008, 02:29:21 PM »
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Jess, why did you put the CG in the negative position..? Just curious. =:^D


Because a label drilling was impossible without doing it. In order to get the pin and the MB where they were supposed to be as per the drill sheet, the CG had to go there. It was slightly left of a straight line from the pin to the MB.

I believe CG matters somewhat but it is easily the least important of the three on a MB ball, and even if/when it does matter, only when it's swung out a good ways do you start to see noticeable differences.

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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2008, 02:33:10 PM »
tgod knows is where you put the mb, not the cg...they are not always aligned
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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2008, 10:23:28 AM »
Unfortunately for me LaneHammer20 is correct about the XP, so much so that I can't use it at the moment.  Beans drilled this ball up for me at Nationals with the pin over the middle finger and the MB about 1 1/2 to the right of the thumb.  This ball comes off the break point like it was shot out of a cannon.  I need some more time to learn how to work with it and adjust the surface.  When I recieved the ball from Beans it was polished, since then I took some 4000 Ablaron to it and its not quite as flippy, but way too strong off the break point for me.


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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2008, 10:26:51 AM »
Hey Nicanor,

Try sanding to 600-800 and hit it with the Secret Sauce. That will smooth it out for you. That is my magic formula that I use on all my pearls...

Or try 2000 Abralon.

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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2008, 10:38:32 AM »
Thanks Beans.  I have a quart of Beans' Secret Sauce and maybe I can use a 500 or 1000 Ablaron pad.  The XP has so much energy when it hits the pocket light, it just throws pins everywhere and pocket hits are just explosive, but I have to be ahead of the ball because in a heartbeat its 9 then 4/9 through the beak.

I'm going to work with it again, but I was recently in a pretty bad motorcycle accident and though I bowl league, practice and testing is out of the question.

Thanks again,

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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2008, 11:26:17 AM »
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Hey Nicanor,

Try sanding to 600-800 and hit it with the Secret Sauce. That will smooth it out for you. That is my magic formula that I use on all my pearls...

Or try 2000 Abralon.

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Isn't the purpose of polish to increase length and back end?  How will polishing the ball smooth it out?
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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2008, 11:35:57 AM »
The lower the grit sanding or abralon pad you use under the polish the smoother the ball reaction will be.  The polish will get you length but if you use a lower grit surface under the polish the direction change down the lane will be smoother.

take a ball all the way to 4000 abralon and then polish and it will go the longest and be very sharp when it hits friction.

use 500 abralon and then polish you will get good length but have a much smoother and more controllable backend.
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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2008, 12:13:06 PM »
I know enough about cover stock preps and I stand by my question.  A great majority of pearls come from the factory with a fairly dull surface (400-800 grit) and then hit with a polish and most of them go long and flip.  Yes, I know the finer you sand before you polish alters the reaction.

I would think his second recommendation of 2000 abralon (or maybe 4000) would be a better choice.  Fine sanding with no polish gives me a clean look through the fronts without the jerk off the dry that polish adds.
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Re: My NIB Supernova XP arrived -- with a dull finish!
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2008, 09:07:23 AM »
I can suggest 3M's Finesse-It II compound finish on a 4.000 grit Abralon base. Cool stuff, you get a shiny, glossy surface which is very even and very clean. Reaction-wise, from the balls I tried with it, the reaction fell between a standard high gloss polish (Brunswick) and a pure 4.000 Abralon finish: Very good length through the heads due to the shiny surface, but much better traction and control at the break point than polished. Helped me, among others, tame down my Awesome Finish... As a side effect, you will get the tackiest ball surface you can imagine. Pin carry is unholy, and it lasts very well.
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