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LowRG

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My Tsunami got Baked!
« on: December 29, 2005, 02:40:56 PM »
I decided that it was timeto get the gallons of oil out of my Tsunami.  300+ games, cleaning every 10-15 with clean and dull (its at 4000 grit, no polish...) So, going on the advice of RedNeck Roller over at BBE, i put my tsunami in a 150* oven for about 15 mintues.  Orange Clean/Water 50-50 mix wipedown after every 15-20 minute interval to clean the ball, then back in the oven in 15-20 mintue intervals until the oil stopped coming out. The difference in the tackines is simply unbelievable.  I havent had the chance to throw it yet, but hopefully tomorrow morning I will be able to throw it on a fresh shot, compared to my friends new DB.    Time to bake my AI with more than 500 games...hah...

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Re: My Tsunami got Baked!
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2005, 11:53:28 PM »
Not saying that the oven method will not work, but some caution should be used.


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Mark Martin's recipe for "baked" Bowling Ball

This past Saturday I took the ball to Bud Mulholland of Bud's Pro Shop to have it resurfaced. The ball had various gouges and nicks that had happened over its lifetime and Bud would take care of these.

On Monday I picked up the ball from Bud and told him of my dilemma of the ball not hooking any longer. He then described a procedure I could do myself to remedy the situation. He stated that the reactive resin ball "eats" the oil off of the lane and the lane oil soaks into the ball. After many trips down the oily lane the ball quits reacting. He took my ball in the back of his shop and put it under a heat lamp and in less than 10 seconds the oil began oozing out.

Bud suggested that I "bake" the ball. He described this process as being quite simple using a standard household oven and a cookie sheet. Balancing the ball on its thumbhole on the cookie sheet and putting it in an oven at 150 degrees for 10-12 minutes at a time would bleed all of the oil out of the ball. After each cycle remove the ball from the oven and wipe it off and repeat the process until no more oil emerged from the ball.

I had heard of this before and it seemed very easy and foolproof. Even I, as the master chef, could accomplish this feat and in return have a new bowling ball.

Later that afternoon at the GDBA'S office I decided to "bake" the ball, since Monday night was my bowling night and it would be nice to have my Red Alert back the way it used to be.

I proceeded to turn the oven on and place the ball into it as the recipe called for. Approximately five minutes later when I went to check on it, I got the surprise of my life. Upon opening the oven door my Red Alert had become a flaming Red Alert and came rolling out of the oven onto the floor in the kitchen still in flames.

After the fire was out I surveyed the damage; the ball was definitely history. Approximately one third of the ball was now a different texture and color. So much for having a rejuvenated ball for my league session.

When I told Bud of the incident he could hardly believe it. The ball is now in Bud's possession and on display at his pro shop at 3105 W. Huron in Waterford, next to Lakewood Lanes.

The moral of the story is "bake" don't "broil" and then only by a qualified professional



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Re: My Tsunami got Baked!
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2005, 11:21:56 PM »
Sorry, I've been busy.  I baked my Tsunami as well as my AI before league friday night, and all I can say is holy crap.  I cannot remember either of these balls performing this well, but they were both almost too much for my dryish house shot.  150* will work wonders, and it WILL NOT catch fire , as long as you have something to catch the oil.  Save your money on hook again or CPR, honestly.

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Re: My Tsunami got Baked!
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2005, 11:47:39 PM »
Just a reminder,
The ball companies will not honor and ball damage done by baking. The balls have been know to spiderweb crack and split in pieces. Also if you have ball plug in the ball.  Remember that ball plug is heat activated and it may expand or shrink under the heat.
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Re: My Tsunami got Baked!
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2006, 12:14:14 AM »
I baked a ball a while back and the core seperated from the coverstock from the radical temperature changes.  Now everytime the ball hits the pins, there is a hollow sound.  I would stay away from the oven.  If you think you need to suck the oil out of the ball, wait till summer and put your ball in a trash bag and let it soak.
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Re: My Tsunami got Baked!
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2006, 09:09:05 AM »
The summer day thing is the same deal as the oven.  

If you make sure there is something to catch the oil, no fire.

If you dont take it out of the oven then immediately outside for example, the temerature changes are not drastic enough to hurt anything.  

I tried to detergent/hot water method and it was not successful at all.  Perhaps I was not doing it correctly, but I'll stick to baking.

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Re: My Tsunami got Baked!
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2006, 09:33:36 AM »
Another heat source are those high intensity lamps.  I used those when the waeather was cold, to help the urethane dry faster on a dresser I was refinishing.  They provide a high level of heat from those holgen bulbs, and you can control it by the closeness to the ball.

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Re: My Tsunami got Baked!
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2006, 09:40:24 AM »
Awsome X59... I've done this twice..with great succsess also..

 
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proceeded to turn the oven on and place the ball into it as the recipe called for. Approximately five minutes later when I went to check on it, I got the surprise of my life. Upon opening the oven door my Red Alert had become a flaming Red Alert and came rolling out of the oven onto the floor in the kitchen still in flames.
 


Come on.. REALLY!!  If this ball caught on fire..
1. you probably didn't put something under the ball to catch the oil that was dripping off
2. your ovens tempeture is way off.

at a 150* for that short of time I have a hard time believing this..

My oven is dead nutz on 150* and I can reach in and pick the ball out of my oven..so give me a break hear..

to each his own.. WATER TREATMENT.. if oil soaks in the ball.. don't you think water would too ?  dunno..  

putting the ball in a trunk wraped in towels or by the sliding door.. how hot you think that gets.. same thing if you ask me..

 
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core seperated from the coverstock from the radical temperature changes


Yes.. commin sence plays a part in this too.. no affense here.. BUT.. geeesh..

To each his own.. x59.. glad it worked for you,as it did for me and tons of other folks.. I've put alot of time on thinking of this method..talked to lots of people about it.. any method you try..there is some risk in doing it..  Only one I've known to work without RISK. is the cat litter method..BUT.. I didn't have 2 weeks to find out..  


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Re: My Tsunami got Baked!
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2006, 09:53:50 AM »
Over the past few months, there has been increased discussion on what makes performance bowling balls die, and, more importantly, what brings them back to life. Ebonite International’s research and development team has spent significant time on this issue.

While some in the bowling industry advocate heating or “baking” bowling balls to restore performance, Ebonite International strongly disagrees. Below is a summary of their findings:


The industry as a whole agrees that reactive and particle bowling balls do absorb oil from the lane into the cover stock over a period of time.
Companies that advocate the use of heating or “baking” believe that the absorption of this oil causes balls to lose their performance characteristics. The heating process, they claim, rids the balls of excess oil leading to the return of performance. Ebonite International has conducted extensive research and disagrees.
Because the core and cover stock are constructed of different materials, they expand and contract at different rates during the baking process. Repeated exposure of bowling balls to these cycles can cause separations and actually diminish long-term performance and the life of the ball.
When bowling balls are placed in an oven, they experience a loss of weight. Ebonite International has found that it is not only oil coming out of the balls but also the very chemicals that made the balls react in the first place. Loss of these chemicals will reduce the ability to react as well as contribute to the weakening and cracking of the cover stock.
Simply put, oil is not the problem. Ebonite International tests in various conditions bear this out. The company has taken brand new balls, soaked them in oil and found through CATS testing that they hook just as much as their unsoaked counterparts.
Most ball reaction occurs (and is lost) on the back end of the lane. The typical bowling center applies oil to the front 28-38 feet of the lane. This is evidenced by examining the track flare rings on a bowling ball. The heaviest deposits of oil will be found on the front flare rings (those closest to the thumb). As the track flares away from the thumb, less oil will be found. The last 4-5 flare rings are dry, evidence that oil is not present in the backends. If the ball loses backend reaction and oil is not present on the track flare rings, there can only be one conclusion drawn….oil is not the reason.
Finally, there’s a reason most manufacturers do not warranty bowling balls subjected to extreme heat…it’s not good for the ball. Exposure to heating cycles causes an excessive amount of plasticizer to be removed from the bowling ball. As plasticizer is removed from the bowling ball, pore sizes shrink allowing less oil to be asbsorbed by the ball, which allows the ball to react less. Additionally, plasticizer loss shrinks the coverstock which can cause cracking at the stress points….finger holes, thumb holes, weight holes, and pins.

According to Ebonite International, the answer to Dead Ball Syndrome is not the absorption of oil. The company has discovered that when a ball is compressed by repeated use, the plasticizer migrates to the surface and concentrates in the track area of the ball. This build up of plasticizer acts as a lubricant that diminishes friction and performance in the backend. In effect, the same thing that causes a ball to hook causes it to lose its hook.

Once Ebonite uncovered plasticizer as the culprit in DBS, it was able to find an effective solution. Through extensive research and testing, the company has created a product, the Ebonite® Powerhouse® Hook Again™, that has proven to restore hook to bowling balls that have lost performance in the backend due to over-saturation. Hook Again™ is a scientifically-developed formula that extracts plasticizer and oil from the ball using only direct compressive contact.

According to Ebonite’s testing, Hook Again™ has proven to restore up to 99.8% of performance loss due to plasticizer saturation. And, this product does not use heat to restore performance, it is not abrasive to the surface and will not harm the ball.

The process of treating a ball is simple. The ball is placed in a specially-designed treatment chamber, the Hook Againâ„¢ compound is added for 24 hours. The ball is then removed and wiped off. It is then ready for renewed life.


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