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Nicanor

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Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« on: January 18, 2010, 09:43:15 AM »
I'm looking for suggestions on how to re-drill my Red Death.  The ball is rolling out/burning up to quick.

I drilled the ball with the pin next to my ring finger CG 3 inches down.  My PAP is 4 7/8 and 5/8 up measured on a plastic ball.  Want to get the ball a little further, retain some energy read the mid lane a little and still have a strong move off the break point.  Asking too much?


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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 05:47:37 PM »
A couple quick ideas:

How about something like 6 X 5?  Drilled up a few of these layouts on strong balls and works on getting the ball down the lane with energy available for the backend.  A nice touch of polish (ebonite 5000 perhaps) on top would make sure you would get some length on it.

Dual angle...maybe something like 80 X 5 1/2 X 45?? Hopefully would give length and a sharp move off the spot...

Not sure will get the look you are looking for with such a strong ball but think this gives you a shot at it..

Hope this helps!
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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 06:27:40 PM »
I agree with srlunatic here.  Put the pin above the bridge, kick the cg at a 45 degree angle, and a weight hole in the P2 position and go have fun.  The high pin will put it roughly 5+ inches from PAP and the 45 degree angle will give you decent midlane and strong backend.
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Roy Munson

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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 06:57:13 PM »
Try changing the surface first before opting to re-drill.

Mine burned up at 2k Abralon.

Changed it to 4k the polished with secret sauce and

it works very well.
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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 09:21:04 PM »
My PAP is close to yours at 4 3/4 x 1/2 up. I just drilled my Red Death with a dual angle drilling of 45* x 4" x 50* with Pin drilled out in RF last Thursday. I have only thrown it 4 games so far and on lane conditions not suited for the Red Death, yet it still carried really well considering the conditions. Triggerman suggested this drilling for me and it aappears he was right about it for what I wanted.

Prior to drilling my RD, I questioned what drill for more length and a stronger back-end and he said I could try 35* x 4" x 60*, but I decided not to go that direction, so that is something you might look at.

However, before redrilling your ball, I would first try a surface change as Roy Munson suggested, if you haven''t already done so.
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Nicanor

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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 09:15:18 AM »
Thank you for the feedback.  I have tried surface changes and I think the pin being so close to my PAP is not working for me with this ball.  i had the same problem with the Bounty Hunter pearl and I'm plugging it and re-drilling it also.  The Red Death did work well for me with longer heavier oil standing right and coming up the back, but it lasted about half a game and then I had to make a ball change. I moved left into the oil, but the ball still wanted to stand up too early.  So I'll drill it again to hopefully be able to use the ball more because I seen the potential.

I don't quite understand the dual angle measurements that you recommended, i just understand the pin distances and CG/MB distances.

Thanks again,

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Roy Munson

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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2010, 10:14:01 AM »
What speed do you have?
RPM?

The reaction you look for?
Below is from Mo Pinel drilling suggestion for Medium track bowlers

Fast Revving - Firm Breakpoint?
. . . For most players on most conditions
Strong Midlane - Heavy Forward Roll?
. . . Speed dominant players and/or for heavier oil volumes     
Control - Smooth Continuous Hook?
. . . Rev dominant players and/or for lighter oil volumes
Strong Backend?
Late Breakpoint?

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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2010, 10:24:32 AM »
Dual Angle Drill is pretty easy to understand. Here's the link

http://www.morichbowling.com/Drilling/DualAngleSeminar/DualAngleSeminar.htm
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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2010, 11:19:18 AM »
Thank you for the link.

My speed is about 17 and rev rate about 350.

Thanks again,

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Roy Munson

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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2010, 12:26:37 PM »
Here's Mo's drilling suggestions. You fall under Medium Track bowler
http://www.morichbowling.com/Drilling/BowlingBallDrilling.htm

Mine is currently drilled at 30* x 5.5" x 30*
Mo's suggestion for me - low track player was 30* x 4 x 30*
but as I layed it out, the pin ends up very close to my ring finger
so I opted to 5.5". This basically puts the pin above bridge about 1"

At 4k Abralon - it hooks too much on fresh THS
I then polished it with secret sauce and now
I can use it on our league all three games - using the line 13 board out to 6-7
just moving 2-3 board in stance.
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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 03:16:24 PM »
Nic, swing the CG out towards/to your axis and place a hole 10" from the center of your grip, ending with 7/8 side. This will give you better length and a strong backend. =:^D
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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 03:26:06 PM »
quote:
Nic, swing the CG out towards/to your axis and place a hole 10" from the center of your grip, ending with 7/8 side. This will give you better length and a strong backend. =:^D



and a nice rumble as it flares over the weight hole. You guys and your side weight.
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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2010, 03:45:13 PM »
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Nic, swing the CG out towards/to your axis and place a hole 10" from the center of your grip, ending with 7/8 side. This will give you better length and a strong backend. =:^D



and a nice rumble as it flares over the weight hole. You guys and your side weight.


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Roy Munson

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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2010, 04:11:25 PM »
It was a decent thread there for a while

If you need a late break point, as Mo suggested, try

80* x 3" x 45*
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Re: Need to re-drill my Red Death, looking for suggestions
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2010, 04:27:12 PM »
I just had mine drilled with my pin in my ring and cg on a 45 with a weight hole.
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