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Nicanor

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Agent Orange on longer oil
« on: November 22, 2008, 10:17:42 AM »
Friday I practiced on THS about 10-10 and shorter oil.  The Gladiator solid was getting prety good length and came off the break point very strong and carry was tremendous.  Then I went to the AO and I could actually see the AO try to turn earlier and burn up/roll out.

Saturday morning I coach our Jr league and they had the USBC national shot out there from last year or as close as they could get it.  I had no look with the Gladiator solid.  It ent too long and didn't turn the corner.  I'm sure I could have found a shot, but I was working down and in on the 8 board.  After warming up and not finding a shot with the GS I pulled out the AO thinking it would read the lane earlier.  I was right.  It started earlier theen the GS and the Dimension and had a great look at the pocket.  I crushed the pocket time and time again maybe leaving an occassionaly 9 pin or 4 pin.  Went back to the GS and still it wasn't reading the break point well.  Back to the AO and crushing the pocket.  Exactly what I was looking for.  I wanted to see the difference between the two bowling balls so I know how to use them in my arsenal.  It was great.  The Jr Masters was watching me because they had such a hard time during league.  The AO made it look easy. I don't need to adjust the surface on either ball because I don't need them to handle the same conditions.

I like the AO a LOT more then the Buzzbomb.  It probably won't be the first ball out of the bag in the condition the surface is in, though with surface adjustment and different drilling it could be without question, it fills a void in my aresanl I was trying to fill.  Best ball out so far with the Lane 1 and 900 Global combination.  It honestly reminds me of the great balls Lane 1 and Brunswick put out.

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urbanshaft

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Re: Agent Orange on longer oil
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2008, 07:02:16 PM »
why do you like it more then the buzzbomb??

Nicanor

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Re: Agent Orange on longer oil
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2008, 08:12:02 PM »
I had no luck with the Buzzbomb.  Lane 1 was kind enough to send me a second Buzzbomb with higher top and a recommendation on how to drill it.  I had mor succes with the second Buzzbomb and occassionaly I still bring it to practice, but the ball was way over hyped IMHO.  Many had great success with the Buzzbomb, but it did not fill the void in my arseanl that it was touted to do.  Ther is no hype with regards to the AO.  I'b be willing to say it probably is an outstanding versatile ball depending on drilling and surface prep.  The one ball I'm waiting to compare it to is the Virtual Gravity (VG).  I threw my AO on the same condition that a friend of mine threw his VG and the leave of pins was the same, big 4, 4-6 and the greek church.  Too much ball for the shorter pattern we were playing on.  I switched to the Gladiator solid and he stayed with the VG so he could play with his new toy, he suffered all three games.

I don'g have a lot of games on my Buzzbombs and I will continue work with it, but between the Dimension and the AO I don't have a need to add it to my arsenal.

In all fairness to the Buzzbomb, I had no luck with the Cell and everyone knows that was a great ball.  So I know its about matching up.


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Re: Agent Orange on longer oil
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2008, 09:07:22 PM »
but whats so different from your  ao and the buzzbomb?

Nicanor

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Re: Agent Orange on longer oil
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2008, 08:55:36 AM »
I never seem the movement touted on the Buzzbomb.

The AO will make a pronouced move at the break point and in box condition will handle the heavier of oils.  It will roll out/burn up in short oil if in box condition and lwer pin.  A higher pin might help it get down the lane further.  But I know surface adjustments work on the ball and it adjusts easily.  I drilled two Buzzbombs three different ways including sending one drilled Buzzbomb all the way to Lane 1 where they plugged the ball, layed it out and sent me that ball back and a second Buzzbomb free with higher top weight and I still didn't have any luck with the Buzzbomb.

So the customer service at Lane 1 is tremendous and many bolwers matched up well with the Buzzbomb, I just never did and it wasn't without trying.

The first time out with the AO in box I knew it was too much ball for the condition I was bowling on, one shot and back in the bag. Then I took it to 2000 and water on a spinner I went 198, 196, 203 and had to change balls in the third game.  Really the ball was too much the whole night.  A lot of 4 pins and 9 pins and once a 4-10.  The oi was realy too short oil little and dried up quickly.

Like I said earlier, I was giving a lesson after Jr Masters on a heavier oil condition, my Gladiator soild hardly moved and very difficult to carry if I headed the ball up.  So I pulled out the AO still in the 2000 Ablraon condition and though I couldn't sing the ball, it handled the heavier oil extremely well turned the corner and the AO even impressed me.  

I liked a marble colored ball (unlike Bean's) because I can see my rev rate better.  I like the Supernova XP and the Tsumani.  The AO reved up very well and read the break point without jumping and rolled up to the pocket and carry was tremendous.  So they say no ball hooks in heavy oil and I don't agree because of two balls, the Midnight Scorcer and the AMB particle.  The AO won't hook in heavy oil either, but it is a great ball for the longer patterns.


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