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jkiser01

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Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« on: February 11, 2005, 09:09:18 PM »
Would clean and dull be a good cleaner for the Hybrid Dirty Bomb? Since its activator and PK18 and I have had neither, I want to make sure I am using the right stuff..

If not, whats everyone use to clean thier HDB?
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jkiser01

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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2005, 05:40:56 AM »
Luvswatch,

never been real high on cleaning my bowling ball with household products, but will keep your idea in mind.
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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2005, 08:08:06 AM »
liquid nitro: it doesn't affect the coverstocks and is an amazingly good cleaner.
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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2005, 08:16:18 AM »
I've had good luck using the "citrus" based cleans on my pk18 and activator covers.  As far as bowling specific, Ebonite energizer powerhouse works well... although its very expensive.  
Personally, I use and have had very good luck with orange clean:
http://doitbest.com/shop/product.asp?mscssid=2R774FJ08PGQ9LR9BKL5WUB4GMKX8XWE&dept%5Fid=3220&sku=614688

I think last I bought came from Wal-mart for $1.29 a bottle.  I usually cut it with a little water and put it in a smaller spray bottle that I can carry along in one of my bowling bags...    
i have heard people claim this lessens reaction over a period of time, but I have never experienced it.

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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2005, 08:57:32 AM »
Like strapper says i use orange based cleaner like ebonite powerhouse or the orange clean stuff from the .99 cent store works great. They also have a .99 cent simple green generic buy both and try them both, when i used simple green i had to cut it 50/50 with water not to leave residue on the ball.

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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2005, 09:29:00 AM »
guys,

so that simple green and cheap orange clean stuff won't damage the coverstock at all?? Thats kind of scary to use that cheap stuff on a $150 bowling ball.. I remember hearing awhile back that prolonged use of that household cleaner stuff will damage the cover.

Oh well, thanks for the comments..
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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2005, 09:36:56 AM »
I have owned a Neo-tac Khameleon for a year and a half now... it has probably close to 150 games on it.  It has basically the PK 18 cover.  I have used orange clean on it since day one.  i have never noticed any decrease in reaction.  I maintain the cover (about every 30-40 games I very lightly wet sand using 800 grit and re-polish with ebonite factory finish).

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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2005, 01:40:47 PM »
I use the Ebonite Powerhouse cleaner. I buy it by the quart - around $25.00. I also picked up a bunch of the ebonite powerhouse ball scrubs - they work well for a quick clean at the center - although they're expensive, if I use 'em with a microfiber towel I can clean 3 balls with them.

And using ebonite products on my brunswick and lane #1 activator and pk-18 stuff hasn't curdled a coverstock yet!
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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2005, 01:50:42 PM »
simply green can not hold a candle to products like ebonite energizer with citrus.

as a test,I have cleaned my ball with simply green, then follwed it up with ebonite.

the energizer picked up stuff that the simply gree did not.

FWIW I buy concentrated simply green and mix my own strength and even at it's highest it not as good.

like it was said above. why pay 220 for a ball to save 3 bucks?
I belive it's called penny wise, dollar foolish.


the strongest cleaner I have used is the new clearner from lanemaster.
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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2005, 02:01:26 PM »
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as a test,I have cleaned my ball with simply green, then follwed it up with ebonite.

It's Simple Green, not simply green.

If you think the Ebonite stuff is better, that's fine, but did you try the test going the other way, Powerhouse cleaner followed by Simple Green?

I've tested Simple Green 1:1 with water against a lot of cleaners (including the Ebo stuff and Neo-Tac's Liquid Nitro), and I honestly can't tell the difference between the results I get with Simple Green or Formula 409, and what the more expensive, bowling-specific cleaners do.

Phil Cardinale recommends hot water and Dawn dishwashing detergent.  Maybe he'll change his tune when Dyno-Thane starts selling a ball cleaning fluid, but I doubt it.
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omegabowler

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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2005, 02:45:47 PM »
yes seadrive I have tried it the other way I did not feel the need to provide a complete controlled dataset to validate  a scienctific experiment. I summed it up.

if you like simply green then fine. I don't care. maybe the balls shell types and lanes oils have a say as to what cleaner works better.

dawn and dishwater is probably a good as anything. a simple rag and a bottle of cleaner fits in the bag and is great for cleaning it right at the alley.

now maybe you carry a bucket and dawn to league every week But not many people do.
I would also throw a time is money factor between soaking and had wiping a ball every set.


so maybe a good clean regimen would dictate a cleaning after every set and once a month soaking to get the oil out.

as for the typo, BFD. you did not even quote my typo correctly. I have no idea what your problem is. if you like to champion simply green go right ahead.

I had no idea that a 20 page thesis was need to have an opinion other that yours. maybe next time I will video tape it for you.

here is another thought.

you have no control over the formulas of either cleaner. at any given time 409, mr. clean etc can change their base. they do not target the bowling industry where products made for the industry must be approved. In that case you have a better chance of either not damaging your ball or be removed from a tournament for using a banned substance.
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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2005, 04:20:38 PM »
i also use simple green to clean  my stuff, i mix it 60/40, water/simple green...seems to work well. you dont want to much concentration of simple green cuz it wont wipe off clean. i also like simple green cuz it is dirt cheap and it keeps the finish of the ball intact, i.e. pearlized balls stay pearlized, u still have to shine the balls every now and then but the simple green doesnt appear to take off as much of the finish as other cleaners i have used.

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Re: Opinion wanted on cleaning of Hybrid Dirty Bomb
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2005, 11:20:52 PM »
I've used the 'generic' degreasers (Simple Green, Formula 409, etc.) as well as the true blue bowling commercial stuff (Ebonite Powerhouse, Neotac Liquid Nitro, etc.). Both types seem to work about the same. The bowling specific cleaners might do a better job, but it's tough to tell conclusively. I like the resulting feel of the cover from using Liquid Nitro, so that's the determining factor for me.

The irony is that most of the products discussed are not the answer to truly deep cleaning. For this you have to bump it up a notch and use products like Neotac's Khameleon Particle Sand High Tech Ball Restorer or Track Clean 'N Dull. Guaranteed, these products will pick up stuff from the cover that the liquid degreasers leave behind.

So use your favorite degreaser (Simple Green, F409, Liquid Nitro, Powerhouse, etc.) after each set. Then at regular intervals -- depending on how often you use your equipment -- use one of the high-end bowling specific cleaners. They'll not only deep clean, but in many cases recondition the cover.

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