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bigtimebowler1974

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rasberry
« on: November 28, 2008, 12:25:27 PM »
looking for a new or slightly used and clean rasberry saw. anyone know where i can get my hands on one.

 

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Re: rasberry
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2008, 06:57:44 AM »
cjbenavides, I hope you find what you are looking for at a REASONABLE price.

As far as the worth argument goes, here's my final word on the subject:

Don't argue with an idiot.  They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Edited on 12/9/2008 8:09 AM
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Re: rasberry
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2008, 07:01:03 AM »
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cjbenavides, I hope you find what you are looking for at a REASONABLE price.

As far as Beans logic goes, here's my final word on the subject:

Don't argue with an idiot.  They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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From what I have read you started the arguement.  Now you're calling people idiots because they don't agree with you.  That seems a bit hypocritcal to me.

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Re: rasberry
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2008, 07:05:29 AM »
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From what I have read you started the argument.  Now you're calling people idiots because they don't agree with you.  That seems a bit hypocritical to me.


kidjete, it's not hypocritical at all.  I did not start the argument, I was personally attacked after giving my opinion on the subject, which started the argument.  I was stating my opinion about worth when I was attacked by Beans, so I feel I have a right to defend myself, as you would as well I assume.  I have given my reasons about the differences in the worth of an object, which others care not to agree with, and that's fine, I am dropping the issue.  Take care, and bowl well!
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Re: rasberry
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2008, 07:09:44 AM »
Just seemed to me you were forcing your opinion down their throats a little more than they were.  I don't see anywhere in the post where you got attacked.  You started the whole mess by bashing the price Beans asked then got your panties in a bunch when he attempted to explain himself.  Oh well it's not my concern I can just see where Beans is coming from.

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Re: rasberry
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2008, 07:12:20 AM »
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Just seemed to me you were forcing your opinion down their throats a little more than they were.  I don't see anywhere in the post where you got attacked.  You started the whole mess by bashing the price Beans asked then got your panties in a bunch when he attempted to explain himself.  Oh well it's not my concern I can just see where Beans is coming from.


That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it.  Beans basically told me the reason I think old buzzsaws are overpriced is because I could not afford them (which made me chuckle if he knew how much I make).  You can go back and look it up on page one, it's there, and before I had started arguing with anyone.  Oh well, it's a dead horse now, time to stop beating it....
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Re: rasberry
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2008, 07:18:07 AM »
I really like this real-world application of the definition of "worth" in a business sense that I found on this website through a Google search:

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How much is something worth? This is a common question that both buyers and sellers have been haggling over for centuries. Worth, simply defined, is what someone is willing to give for something. Worth cannot be confused with an asking price, selling price, or buying price. Worth, put in plain terms, is a relative term applied to both an item or items and individuals involved in a particular transaction.
 
How many times have you heard somebody say, this "whatsit worth $5,000-so-and-so told me it was"! Being told something is worth a specific value is meaningless if the person doing the appraisal has no knowledge of the item itself or the market for it. Not even an auction is an indicator of true "worth," since many existing factors can alter a price many times over. I recall being at an auction in which a common pocket watch, easily purchased in many places for about $40, sold for over $3,000.00! Was that a true indicator of real worth, or simply an example of emotional siblings wanting the same heirloom from their family-with the purchase price merely being deducted from their inheritance proceeds! I doubt there was one more person on this planet that would have paid that much for the item-yet it was worth $3,000.00 to somebody. Unfortunately, when events such as that occur, others with similar goods mistakenly assume that they, too, can sell their similar goods for similar prices-and that is about as big of a mistake as is possible in the collectible business.
 
Real worth, from a professional appraisal perspective, is what you can assume you can get for an item under normal circumstances, based on the existing market demand and condition of the item itself. Historical association will add a certain premium to a targeted market as well, but sentimental value is basically meaningless, unless you are the prospective buyer.

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Re: rasberry
« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2008, 07:34:23 AM »
Dan,

That is a great quote you found, thanks for finding it.
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Re: rasberry
« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2008, 07:58:41 AM »
Beans,

I am sorry I called you an idiot, that was out of line, and I shouldn't have resorted to a personal attack.  Again, I am sorry about that remark.
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Re: rasberry
« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2008, 09:09:59 AM »
Beans posesses a great deal of Saw knowledge and has access to Lane 1 balls.
A smart business man will use those things to his advantage.
He did not create the mystique and super loyal following that surrounds this company. He just uses it to his advantage.
The Lane 1 loyals wear their love on their sleeve for all to see.
Many seem to find Lane 1 ball ownership as a badge and post all their gear in their signature as proof of membership.
A rare ball such as the Raspberry would be seen as another jewel on the necklace of membership. I'm not sure it even matters how good the ball really is.
It seems to be enough just to be able to say you own/throw one.
This does not make sense to me or many other bowlers but it makes sense to them.
And that's all that matters.
Supply and demand.
They demand and Beans supplies.
The fact it cost more is part of the appeal.
Just good business.
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Re: rasberry
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2008, 11:44:40 AM »
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Beans,

I am sorry I called you an idiot, that was out of line, and I shouldn't have resorted to a personal attack.  Again, I am sorry about that remark.
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Maine Man,
If I took everything that is written about me and towards me the wrong way I would never survive in this business. No offense taken. I do like to throw a jab or two myself to keep the pot stirring so I am guilty as well. The "can't afford" comment was a general statement and not directed at you at all.

Now leave me alone so I can sell this ball for $400..  LOL!!

Good day and happy holidays!!

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Re: rasberry
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2008, 07:19:23 PM »
. . . OK now
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Re: rasberry
« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2008, 05:16:36 AM »
Beans,

Is the Raspberry core the same as the Carbide/C?  I thought it was, but I wasn't sure.  If so, that was the best Lane #1 ball I ever threw, I shot 4 300's with that one!  Let me know, thanks.
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Re: rasberry
« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2008, 07:44:55 AM »
The Carbide/C has a similar looking core.

The difference was the inner nuggets were seperated and the Raspberry C2 core had the inner nuggets together creating a lower RG core.

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Re: rasberry
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2008, 09:30:59 AM »
Basically, the same core as the Carbide LRG then, another good ball.
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