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Nicanor

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Saved by a Gemstone
« on: August 25, 2009, 12:35:27 PM »
Today was position round and we needed to win 2 out of 4 points to win the half.  We got killed the first game.  I started out with my regular ball (Virtual Energy) and the ball ran Brooklyn, non stop.  Then the Sideways, right through the nose.  I was watching the other team and my teammates and they were having the same problem.  There was very little oil today, a complete change up.  We were giving up 83 pins of handicap to make it worse.

My teamates used the mars and it was still too strong and the other team used the Mars and was carrying Brookly.  My Jolt solid polished was too strong so I took out the Gemstone that I didn't much care for mover left and swung the ball.  I struck out in the 10th of the second game to win by 4 pins.  The third game was more of the first two.  they were carrying Brooklyns and breaking up splits, my eam mates were struggling but I just kept moving left with the Gemstone.  We got down to the 10th frame again and came way back and then I had to throw the first two in the 10th to win.  Lucky for us, I struck out to win the half.

The reason for this post is because a feww weeks ago i wrote a post about how weak this ball is, and I still believe its weak.  Left too many 10 pins.  But on this condition where the backends were flying, it allowed me to have control and extremely good carry as compared to the other bowlers.  Ball hates oil especially carrydown, but when the back ends are too strong for most equipment, this ball was the answer.


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Re: Saved by a Gemstone
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 09:44:22 PM »
Great bowling, Barry!
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Nicanor

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Re: Saved by a Gemstone
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 10:27:16 PM »
Thanks Jeff.  It wasn't great, but I love the anchor position.  Since I posted on the weakness of the Gemstone, I wanted to give a second look at the Gemstone with positive results. The weakness of the ball ssaved the day.  So for me, it found a spot in my bag for light and short oil, but for medium conditions, its a non starter.


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Re: Saved by a Gemstone
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2009, 02:04:24 AM »
And people wonder why I and others continue to say the light-oil market is the most severely under-represented sector of the ball industry. I drilled probably only two or three true oil-loving balls last year, but I drilled four times that many trying to find a light-oil piece I could control and score with. Good shooting, and remember that where a ball fits in the arsenal depends on your game, not the marketing. I'm using a 900Global Break S75 to cover about three or four different conditions from medium-light all the way up to medium-heavy, despite it being supposedly an oiler.

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Re: Saved by a Gemstone
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 11:10:23 AM »
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And people wonder why I and others continue to say the light-oil market is the most severely under-represented sector of the ball industry.


I agree.  Most of the lanes around here don't put down too much oil in the first place, then people come along with the latest hook monsters and take whatever oil is out there.  I'm finding my Cherry Vibe is too strong a lot of times to play the outside line I like.

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Re: Saved by a Gemstone
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 11:31:17 AM »
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And people wonder why I and others continue to say the light-oil market is the most severely under-represented sector of the ball industry.


I agree.  Most of the lanes around here don't put down too much oil in the first place, then people come along with the latest hook monsters and take whatever oil is out there.  I'm finding my Cherry Vibe is too strong a lot of times to play the outside line I like.


Hey here's a brilliant thought.  Trying moving your feet instead of crying about not being able to play up 10 everytime you bowl.  Adjusting actually works.
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Re: Saved by a Gemstone
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 04:52:11 PM »
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And people wonder why I and others continue to say the light-oil market is the most severely under-represented sector of the ball industry.


I agree.  Most of the lanes around here don't put down too much oil in the first place, then people come along with the latest hook monsters and take whatever oil is out there.  I'm finding my Cherry Vibe is too strong a lot of times to play the outside line I like.


Hey here's a brilliant thought.  Trying moving your feet instead of crying about not being able to play up 10 everytime you bowl.  Adjusting actually works.
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Hey, thanks for dragging the conversation down like so many on this board are apt to do.  Like many in my house, I play more of an inside line when the lanes dry up so I can keep in the oil.  

The topic in this thread was about equipment being manufactured to deal with light oil and dry lanes, not lane adjustments.  That topic has been covered here and on many other sites.  The Lane #1 Gemstone, with it's high RG and hybrid pearl coverstock, is designed with length in mind on light to medium lane conditions.

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Re: Saved by a Gemstone
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 11:20:47 PM »
Don't mind them, Dougb

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Re: Saved by a Gemstone
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2009, 08:06:59 AM »
I agree with Jess on this, I am looking for a ball that can be my go to ball on lanes with flying backends.  Sounds like the Gemstone may just be a good possibility for this.  Barry did you have your layout specs in your old post?

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Re: Saved by a Gemstone
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2009, 09:01:36 AM »
I actually lid the ball out pretty strong.  I put the pin just above and to the right of the ring finger CG stacked with a 3 inch pin and 2 3/4 top.  My pap is 4 7/8 and 5/8 up.  I thought the core/weightblock would be weak so I didn't drill it weak.  I orginally thought it would be a great down and in ball on medium or medium/light lane conditions.  But never got a good feeling for this shot.  Almost put in on the shelf.  I didn't take it out of my bag because I forgot and I was going to the position round (second half us in first place by 3 points) at a house that I have been using my Virtual Energy.  One throw on my strike line and the VE took out the 7 pin.  Second shot with a weakly laid out Sideways brooklyn third shot with the weakly laid out Jolt solid polished, through the nose so I pulled out the Gemstone late in the first game and hit the pocket left a 10 pin, adjusted, struck out, then went 230, 227 for a 640.  The next person in series was a 576.  My league that begins on Tuesday is a lane condition that is put out in the AM and we shoot on it at 7 PM.  I'm going to drill a Natural and take both the Gemstone and the Natural for this condition.

I think for some with slower speed, they can use the Gemstone on a little more oil if drilled strong, just don't know how it will carry.  between my rev rate and my ball speed, it helped the carry on the dry lanes because the dry back ends added even more strength to the pocket entry.  The Gemstone just glides through oil like a car rolling through a stop sign with no brakes, but the Gemstone is very controllable.


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