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holland1945

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someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« on: April 21, 2009, 10:18:37 AM »
And it's Elite. The Red Alien "best ball ever made" according to a bowlersparadise.com email I received. They don't get brought up much, however, since no one (even here) takes them seriously - unlike Lane #1.

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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2009, 10:04:58 PM »
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No need.... Inverted 1 has spread enough around already.



 


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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2009, 11:07:03 PM »
anybody (besides me) think the general shape of the Elite - Red Alien core looks kinda familier?
Looks like a basic diamond shape with a flip block to me...bomb core anyone?
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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2009, 11:12:22 PM »
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anybody (besides me) think the general shape of the Elite - Red Alien core looks kinda familier?
Looks like a basic diamond shape with a flip block to me...bomb core anyone?
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Not really..........looks alot like most of C300 cores from the late 90's to the buy out. The same generic cylinder shape that looks like its been put on a lathe
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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2009, 09:05:09 AM »
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Steven spread it all over the place on this one..
 


Inverted: I gave an honest 'family friendly' response, and your assessment is that I spread it all over the place....I'm hurt.

Look at this logically. Would you rather read the opinion of manufacturer professionals, or an army of Holland/THB's who struggle to score, yet stuff the ballot box for pronouncing the 'ball of the year'?

Neither is scientific. Frankly, anything short of a Consumer Reports type of product evaluation leaves much to be desired. But in the absence of that, I don't have an issue with any company singing the phrases of the greatness of their equipment.

It's just marketing. Focusing on it ad nauseam reflects a mental weakness that is probably reflected on the lanes. You're better that that.

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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2009, 10:12:10 AM »
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Wow..didn't mean to hurt your feelings..


Yep, just made a session with a therapist. It could get expensive..

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To me, you're giving the green light for deceptive advertising and even phrasing it.

True, there is a fine line between the two, but Richie (and Elite) definitely crossed the lines..


Honestly, when you read the fictitious letter from Richie to the USBC that the lanes need to be 5 boards wider for the Dynamo, it's nothing but a parody. He's just trying to make the point that the ball hooks. There is nothing 'deceptive' when you keep it in context. You can dig up other offenses, but it's really all the same. You know it, I know it, and the population of rational thinking bowlers know it..

Again, in the absence of an independent product review company like Consumer Reports, anything beyond the publication of technical specs is pure entertainment. Keep perspective, and you'll get the added bonus of less stress and a longer life.

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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2009, 10:18:39 AM »
I love Lane#1 advertising....it elicits emotion and interest!

Problems..

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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2009, 10:19:14 AM »
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To me, you're giving the green light for deceptive advertising and even phrasing it.

True, there is a fine line between the two, but Richie (and Elite) definitely crossed the lines..



 


Inverted 1, you've been whinning and moaning about this advertising thing for months if not years. Yet, your whinning and moaning has never changed anything nor is it ever going to change anything and you know it by now, so why do you keep it up? All it has accomplished for you is it has caused you to get a lot of enemies. It has also caused people like myself to lose respect for you. I once really liked you and had a lot of respect for you, but all of your worthless whinning and moaning the past several months has caused me to lose that respect for you.
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Nor Cal Bowler

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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2009, 10:22:12 AM »
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Took this off the Elite website:

 
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Numerous tests were conducted to make what Elite feels is the best ball produced by any company ever!  


What's so offensive about this statement? This is Elite's opinion about their Red Alien. Kudos to them for having the cojones to make such a strong statement about their equipment.

And kudos to Lane#1 for feeling strong enough about the Dynamo to pronounce it their ball of the year.  

I don't know why the same set of people keep getting their panties bunched up over some simple promotional statements. If they're way over the edge, the balls will be exposed soon enough on the lanes. That's the only place it matters.

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Why is it these companies with this fake swagger don't even produce the whole product in house??
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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2009, 10:32:39 AM »
Yeah it does look like a old columbia core. I'm guessing Global is pouring their stuff now also...
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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2009, 10:33:53 AM »
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Why is it these companies with this fake swagger don't even produce the whole product in house??


NorCal: What does this have to do with anything? Do any of the companies chemically formulate their resins? NO. Varying degrees of the process are always performed by others.

Lane#1 comes up with their own core designs, and then they work with 900Global on the right cover formulation. All that matters is that the final product hits the mark. In Lane#1's case, they have a very good track record.
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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2009, 10:46:43 AM »
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Why is it these companies with this fake swagger don't even produce the whole product in house??


NorCal: What does this have to do with anything? Do any of the companies chemically formulate their resins? NO. Varying degrees of the process are always performed by others.

Lane#1 comes up with their own core designs, and then they work with 900Global on the right cover formulation. All that matters is that the final product hits the mark. In Lane#1's case, they have a very good track record.


Nope, alot of companies have inhouse chemists that formulate the covers.

Oh, how much ball reaction comes from the core again?


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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2009, 10:56:54 AM »
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Oh, how much ball reaction comes from the core again?  


I'm guessing more than you understand at this point.

I've never been a big fan of trying to assign numbers to cover vs. core. There are too many variables to come up with a 'one size fits all' percentage that's cranked out in watered down articles. The fact is that they're integrated and work together in tandem.

The diamond based cores provide for a unique type of roll. Individual bowlers will take advantage of it differently.
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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2009, 10:58:40 AM »
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most of it, surface doesnt matter remember...its about the spinning diamond and ending statics....


LOL!!

To me it's like saying cause you went to the car dealership and picked out all the options and colors you made the car...
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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2009, 11:14:48 AM »
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Oh, how much ball reaction comes from the core again?  


I'm guessing more than you understand at this point.

I've never been a big fan of trying to assign numbers to cover vs. core. There are too many variables to come up with a 'one size fits all' percentage that's cranked out in watered down articles. The fact is that they're integrated and work together in tandem.

The diamond based cores provide for a unique type of roll. Individual bowlers will take advantage of it differently.


Well let's see. Unless the core is 51% or more of the ball's reaction then it really is a smaller factor then you always bring up. Does it mean all you throw is a Crystal Diamond then? It has a diamond core in it. Yes the core plays a factor in the ball but not as much as you always say/believe.
I can stick a pancake core in the AMB Centaur Particle cover and it's gonna outhook the crystal diamond.
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Re: someone has worse ads than Lane #1
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2009, 11:15:23 AM »
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To me it's like saying cause you went to the car dealership and picked out all the options and colors you made the car...


NorCal: You appear to be living proof of the shambled California public school system.

Lane#1 designs their own cores. They figure out all the core specifics they want to achieve (RG's, differentials, flip blocks, etc.), and then work with 900Global to tweak cover formulations to get the desired effect. That's hardly a 'mix and match at the car dealership' exercise.

BTW, what Lane#1 balls do you throw again??
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