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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #91 on: August 23, 2005, 03:31:40 PM »
I'm new to all this USBC thing. Anyways, If you have the SCB and have it polished than that would make it, the same as the PSCB. Do you think, maybe it's the reason to ban both, because they won't approve the PSCB?
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #92 on: August 23, 2005, 03:34:00 PM »
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I'm new to all this USBC thing. Anyways, If you have the SCB and have it polished than that would make it, the same as the PSCB. Do you think, maybe it's the reason to ban both, because they won't approve the PSCB?
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if they don't want to approve the PSCB, that's fine. But, that is NOT a reason they can ban the original.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #93 on: August 23, 2005, 03:34:06 PM »
I have emailed Tom Clark direct hopefully we will have an answer within a day or two

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #94 on: August 23, 2005, 03:35:52 PM »
was the scb coverstock used on any brunswick balls...and what about the regular super carbide?
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #95 on: August 23, 2005, 03:36:07 PM »
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Its because it is. Its a Grandfathered ball that they decided to deliever in a different out of box state. Would you consider an Absolute inferno that came in a 320 grit finish out of the box, a totally different ball than an Absolute Inferno that comes from the factory at 2000 grit??


If brunswick released a Absolute Inferno at 320 dull, and one at 2000polished, and kept them both in there lineup, and started advertising the dull one the way they would a new ball, then yes I would consider is a new ball.

Didn't columbia do this with the Throttle series, release one dull then the same ball with a different name but polished?
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it's all about how you look at I guess. You view them as two different balls. I look at them as one ball with the ability to choose if I would rather have it polished or dull.

Let's say Ford releases a new mustang. Only one color. Later, Ford comes out with a new color. Everything else the same. Same body, engine, etc....is that a totally different car?
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #96 on: August 23, 2005, 03:37:15 PM »
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was the scb coverstock used on any brunswick balls...and what about the regular super carbide?
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regular super carbide used the carbide particla formula, but the SCB is "enhanced CPF" no idea what the difference is

as far as any brunswick balls, I am not sure.
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htotheizzo3561

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #97 on: August 23, 2005, 03:38:48 PM »
Go even further, the Inferno and Ultimate Inferno or the Uranium and Uranium Solid.  Same ball, just different cover and color.

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #98 on: August 23, 2005, 03:42:14 PM »
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Go even further, the Inferno and Ultimate Inferno or the Uranium and Uranium Solid.  Same ball, just different cover and color.


someone will have to correct me if I am wrong, but I believe in both those cases you mentioned, the covers are in fact different. Solid Activator is different than the original pearl Activator. I believe the formula is slightly different.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2005, 03:42:24 PM »
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #100 on: August 23, 2005, 03:43:33 PM »
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I'm new to all this USBC thing. Anyways, If you have the SCB and have it polished than that would make it, the same as the PSCB. Do you think, maybe it's the reason to ban both, because they won't approve the PSCB?
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if they don't want to approve the PSCB, that's fine. But, that is NOT a reason they can ban the original.
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But like some of you say, If the SCB has the same specs as the PSCB, and USBC does not want to approve the ball. Maybe banning both is their solution for preventing SCB owners from polishing it up.

But on the other hand, SCB that's been approved but having a polished version, shouldn't that ball be approved also? Beening the same ball, just polished.
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Chazman819

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #101 on: August 23, 2005, 03:44:52 PM »
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I'm new to all this USBC thing. Anyways, If you have the SCB and have it polished than that would make it, the same as the PSCB. Do you think, maybe it's the reason to ban both, because they won't approve the PSCB?
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if they don't want to approve the PSCB, that's fine. But, that is NOT a reason they can ban the original.
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There is no death, there is immortality.
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But like some of you say, If the SCB has the same specs as the PSCB, and USBC does not want to approve the ball. Maybe banning both is their solution for preventing SCB owners from polishing it up.

But on the other hand, SCB that's been approved but having a polished version, shouldn't that ball be approved also? Beening the same ball, just polished.
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that would basically say that you can never polish a bowling ball.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #102 on: August 23, 2005, 03:46:45 PM »
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that would basically say that you can never polish a bowling ball.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #103 on: August 23, 2005, 03:46:47 PM »
By polishing the ball it would change the COF(Friction) which would require it to be USBC approved. Don't see how they can say a ball that was legal isn't legal now though. It should be an interesting story. I don't think that banning extra holes got this much chat so fast.

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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #104 on: August 23, 2005, 03:48:33 PM »
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that would basically say that you can never polish a bowling ball.
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wouldn't shock me...not long after I said that the non-conforming list made no disctinction if this meant the original, polished, or both; did the polished show up on that site.
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Re: Super Carbide Bomb... Illegal!! Only 2005 Release for the moment
« Reply #105 on: August 23, 2005, 03:52:25 PM »
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By polishing the ball it would change the COF(Friction) which would require it to be USBC approved. Don't see how they can say a ball that was legal isn't legal now though. It should be an interesting story. I don't think that banning extra holes got this much chat so fast.


polishing or sanding a ball wouldn't require USBC approval. All it says is that the whole thing would have to be sanded or polished. Nothing about testing again. That would be ridiculous.

Oh wait...we are dealing with the USBC.
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