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JessN16

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My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« on: March 11, 2008, 01:39:22 PM »
If you read the "Well, just call me stupid" thread, you're familiar with my Gold Nugget story. The Cliff's Notes version is that I had one, it was a terrible over/under piece of junk, I sold it quick and it's been bothering me ever since.

So last week, I found a guy with a used one. It was cheap, it was in good shape, and the drill pattern was pretty much foolproof: CG above thumb, pin at 1:30 above the ring, which put it about 3 3/4 from my PAP. Small weight hole in thumb-positive quadrant. I've used this drilling on many other balls I've owned and it never lets me down.

Tonight, I take the following four balls to league:

1. Gold Nugget (15 lbs)
2. Track Solution Power Plus EX (14 lbs)
3. Track Threat (16 pounds)
4. Visionary Slate Blue Gargoyle (14 lbs, for spares)

The SPPEX is drilled pin over bridge, CG in palm, weight hole on the VAL in the finger-positive quadrant. I've got 5 games on that ball, tops. The Threat is brand-new. CG on the PAP, pin above ring.

In practice, I pick up the Nugget. Throw it over 13 out to 9. It comes back to 13 and dies.

The Threat and the SPPEX are tested right behind that. Each reads the fresh backends. SPPEX is a flippy ball for me and it flips. Strike. The Threat, with its rolly drilling, reads, rolls, and rolls out dead flush in the pocket. Strike.

I send the nugget down there again, same line, same result. Now I'm ill. I just can't believe this is going to happen to me again with this ball.

I put it up and start trying to hunt for something with one of the two Track balls. No more than two or three minutes into practice, the SPPEX is already skating on the oil that's being pushed to the back. Backend reaction is getting spotty. Figures, since the ball is basically a pearl.

The Threat, a high-gloss particle pearl, figures to be my first option, then. But the thumb hole is hanging up a little (it's fresh off my drill press at home) and I don't have time to really work it out.

So I'm planning to make a go of it with the SPPEX deep inside when, on a lark, on my last two shots of practice, I pull out the Gold Nugget again and decide to see what straight up 10 looks like. What it looks like are two big strikes, messengers everywhere.

I figure, what the hey. First couple of frames with the Nugget are hard taps - 4 pin, 10 pin. I make both. Strike, then another spare that I miss (3-6-10, slid by the 3). Then four in a row.

End result: 215 in the first game. This is good.

Second game, the heads start going away just a little. The other team is switching all over the place with their equipment (more on this in a second). I move 2 boards left with the feet, and altering my wrist position -- end up punching out for 221.

Third game wasn't so great -- lanes dried out terribly and I shot 160, changing to the Threat late but not soon enough.

In other words, two great games for me with a ball I never shot worth a da*n with the last time I owned one. It definitely will keep a spot in my bag for awhile as I continue to experiment.

Jess

p.s.: Got a look at a Buzzbomb tonight. A guy on the other team shot roughly 200-200 with it before switching to one of the pearlized Lane #1s (some kind of Carbide Bomb?) and shooting 235 with it. He was a high speed, low hook (but high revs, forward roll), very accurate and direct bowler, so I'm not sure that was a real good test of what a Buzzbomb can do, plus I thought the oil volume was way too low for that ball anyway. But he did do a good job of blowing my hold area to hell, which is why I had to switch out of the Nugget in game 3.


 

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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2008, 03:42:20 PM »
Jess,
Pardon the pun, but I believe you have a gold nugget there in your possession. I have been searching for a used one of those for a coupla years now.

I've bowled in tourneys with five-ten bowlers on a pair, and seen the heads get blown out early, and I've had to scramble to score with my dry lane piece....only to see some guy with a nugget, set up shop on one line....and just plain shoot the lights out!!

Outstanding piece. Good luck with yours.
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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2008, 10:00:15 PM »
Second week wasn't nearly as good as the first, but at least I know why (whereas with my previous Nugget, everything was a crapshoot).

We had lanes 3 and 4 tonight, which in our house is universally noted for being the worst pair in the house. I started by trying to work the same line I did last week and that just wasn't going to happen. Heads were way too dry and the ball wouldn't stay on the right side of the headpin.

Throwing it faster just meant it wouldn't make it back. At least I wasn't alone; the other team, whose anchor is one of the 5-10 best bowlers in our house, struggled as well. That team was using all Brunswick equipment (Fury Pearl, Wizard, Strike Zone, Time Zone) and no one had a good look other than the bowler using the Wizard, who does the same thing she does every time out and pipes it in off the corner. She managed to shoot 630 off a 196 average, however, so maybe I should have gotten out there sooner.

I finally did move out there, but the Nugget was way too strong and I put it up before the first game was even over. Switched to a polished-up Track Threat drilled CG axis and played defense the rest of the night, shot 580.

The other team's top bowler (using the Time Zone) shot 573 off a 219 average. Tough shot.

Still, I'm happy with the ball. It just needs more oil than we had tonight.

Jess

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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2008, 10:35:36 PM »
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Second week wasn't nearly as good as the first, but at least I know why (whereas with my previous Nugget, everything was a crapshoot).

We had lanes 3 and 4 tonight, which in our house is universally noted for being the worst pair in the house. I started by trying to work the same line I did last week and that just wasn't going to happen. Heads were way too dry and the ball wouldn't stay on the right side of the headpin.

Throwing it faster just meant it wouldn't make it back. At least I wasn't alone; the other team, whose anchor is one of the 5-10 best bowlers in our house, struggled as well. That team was using all Brunswick equipment (Fury Pearl, Wizard, Strike Zone, Time Zone) and no one had a good look other than the bowler using the Wizard, who does the same thing she does every time out and pipes it in off the corner. She managed to shoot 630 off a 196 average, however, so maybe I should have gotten out there sooner.

I finally did move out there, but the Nugget was way too strong and I put it up before the first game was even over. Switched to a polished-up Track Threat drilled CG axis and played defense the rest of the night, shot 580.

The other team's top bowler (using the Time Zone) shot 573 off a 219 average. Tough shot.

Still, I'm happy with the ball. It just needs more oil than we had tonight.

Jess


I hope you end up liking it, I know I sure did (That's why I have one drilled and another NIB, but shhhh)  Anyways, to comment about it being to strong and/or early, I ran into the same problem, so I took it to 1000 grit and hit it with some of Ebonite's Particle Polish and that seemed to do the trick.  Anyways, that's just my $.02, hope it helps, but take it for what it's worth.

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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2008, 02:59:05 PM »
PK17 particle pearl ball..

I've always found pp ball to shien when the head oil starts going south and you get a little bit of carrydown going on..

No so good on fresh shots..imho..
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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2008, 03:52:54 PM »
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lanes 3 and 4 tonight, which in our house is universally noted for being the worst pair in the house.
I think this IS universal, not just in your house, but in every house..!! =:^D

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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2008, 07:21:27 PM »
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I hope you end up liking it, I know I sure did (That's why I have one drilled and another NIB, but shhhh)  Anyways, to comment about it being to strong and/or early, I ran into the same problem, so I took it to 1000 grit and hit it with some of Ebonite's Particle Polish and that seemed to do the trick.  Anyways, that's just my $.02, hope it helps, but take it for what it's worth.

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Thanks for the suggestion. This ball is in a very matte condition; the surface is in good shape, but the previous owner obviously did some surface management on it.

My first Nugget, which I bought NIB, came with a high polish on it. Of all the bad looks I had with that ball, the worst of all came when it had polish on it. That fact alone makes me nervous to mess with what I have. I could have played with the ball had it been absolutely necessary, but I *might* have shot 540.

I also hesitate to make much of a judgment here given my comments about what pair of lanes we were on. I'd say about 75 percent of any given league's teams shoot 10-20 sticks under their average per game on this pair. I can't figure it out. Lanes 1 and 2 are typically drier than the rest of the house, but score well. Starting with 7 and 8, and going down to the end of the house, the shot gets progressively slicker, but is still no wetter than medium at any given point. But 3-4 and 5-6 are pure hell, with 3-4 the worse of the two pairs.

Nothing makes sense. I've seen guys that bowl a lot of regionals throw identical shots frame-to-frame on this pair and get wildly different results, and it's not that the lanes hook more on each shot. Shot 1 may go light, shot 2 may be high and then shot 3 is light again. It has something to do with the area of the lane between the 15s, because bailout is to move right and go up the outside, and you can do reasonably well with that.

I'd hate to make a big surface change based on what I see on that pair. Next week, we have 21-22 so I should get a better gauge of what I need to do.

Jess

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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 07:31:45 PM »
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lanes 3 and 4 tonight, which in our house is universally noted for being the worst pair in the house.
I think this IS universal, not just in your house, but in every house..!! =:^D


I gotta agree w/that statement, LOL.  We have those same lanes tomorrow night.  Those lanes see the most open bowling of any in the house.  I'm leaving my dull balls at home.
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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 07:39:31 PM »
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We had lanes 3 and 4 tonight, which in our house is universally noted for being the worst pair in the house. Jess


I consider 3 & 4 the worst pair at my house because it likes to leave divits in the balls...  loose screw that they always have trouble with...

any way if anyone is interested i have a place that has 2 new in box 15lb nuggets   that are priced at $150 plus tax is anyone is interested..


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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2008, 12:32:39 AM »
Just finished with the third night...

Started the first game with the front five, and then the scoring system goes bat-crazy and we had a five-minute downtime while two mechanics tried to fix it. Just the thing to end my string of strikes (I'm very much a rhythm player and it took me three frames to get restarted) but I still shot 255, one of my best games of the year.

Second game started out strike, then five spares in a row. Our mids from 10-20 this year have been the first thing to go and I couldn't go around them with this ball. Seventh frame, I tried to move deep and left the 2-8-10. I spent the rest of the game looking for Option B and ended up with three splits (converted one of them). The other two splits, plus two more in game 3 were the only opens I had all night.

I finally had to switch out of the Nugget in the third game but I finished with a mid-600, a good set for me and tops on our pair tonight.

I think it's safe to say I made a good decision to give this ball a second chance.

Jess


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Re: My second go-round with the Gold Nugget...
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2008, 10:54:31 AM »
i just got a golden nugget and i'm still practicing with it, but this ball HITS LIKE A TON OF BRICKS! PERIOD!
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