Author Topic: Tested the new Dynamo tonight (Read 19281 times)

drillwizard · « **on:** December 16, 2008, 01:48:55 PM »

My boys took care of me again and sent me the super rare Dynamo test ball with no logos just plain black on black Johhny Cash style, with a silver pin.

This is the new Lane 1 ball coming out soon, its the Dynamo. My test ball is blank black with no logos at all. I only got to throw the ball about 1 game tonight cause the condition laid out in this league is way dry, I usually have to use my Chainsaw. But I wanted to play with the new toy. Anyways I punched it up 4 3/4 x 4 no weight hole. This tester has roughly a matte finish to it. I cant wait to throw this on some oil in this out of box state.

I could swing this ball and hook it a ton and still carry or take all the hand out if it and play it somewhat in the track area, and it still carried exceptional. I am going to put a high polish on it tomorrow and try it out again and will post back with the results. If I can get this thing to get like glass I think I can put some huge numbers up with it.

I have a feeling this will have a real good chance to take ball of the year honors, with this cover and core combo.

Cant wait to see the final logos and product, in a month or so.

Edited on 12/16/2008 10:49 PM

FastTracker33 · « **Reply #106 on:** January 01, 2009, 03:25:47 PM »

Sorry about the confusion on those prices, guys!
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tizzle · « **Reply #107 on:** January 02, 2009, 08:30:14 AM »

How does the Dynamo roll compared to the VG, what is the coverage difference on the backend? All this other bickering is for another thread, I just want to know flat out what this ball is capable of. I have not ever thrown Lane1, but I know some people that tear the lanes up with it, so I am willing to try anything. Right now my two best balls are from slept on companies (900 Global and Visionary).

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #108 on:** January 02, 2009, 05:41:55 PM »

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My problem is with people like you who don't seem to like Lane #1 or have anything good to say about them but you always seem to be in the Lane #1 forum looking for anything negative to say.

I've thrown hammer, ebonite, columbia, storm and the brunsbust equipment. To me Lane #1 is second to none. That's my opinion. Other people have the same opinion. If they want to believe what they do about Lane #1, so what. They are entitled to their opinion. An opinion is just that, an opinion. Get used to the fact that others are entitled to their opinion just as you are yours. You can't stand someone elses opinion but you think you can force your opinion down everyones throats.

The prices of the high end balls from all company's are comparable. I frequent 4 different pro shops in my area. All of the high end balls are priced just about the same. Online may show a difference in prices but that is the online shops fault for charging more than they need to, it's not Richies fault. I can get Lane #1 balls in my local shop for $180.00 out the door, drilled with grips and slug. Online shops sell them for MAP $178.00 without drilling, grips and slug. Comparing online shops to B&M shops is like comparing apples to oranges. Other B&M shops who are charging $200.00 plus are ripping people off. Again, not Lane #1's fault but the fault of greedy retailers.

Even if Lane #1 balls are 10% to 20% just for the sake of the debate, why should you care if people are willing to pay it. You aren't and from what I read you think Lane #1 balls are a bust. So why do you waste your time here trying to convince others the suk? What would you do if people followed you around and ragged on you and your equipment every chance they had?

What is it with you people? If you don't like the company or the product, stf up and stay out of their forums.

+1 .... Well said Sawingemdown.... Especially where you said .... "why should you care if people are willing to pay it" ....and.... "If you don't like the company or the product, stf up and stay out of their forums".....That is exactly my feelings also in that it's other peoples money to spend as they please and not the people that complain and if other people want to pay what ever the price, then so be it, it is their business .... and .... I also agree with you that if people don't like the company or the product, then stay out of the forum plus they will be able to sleep better at night if they do. As it is they are losing sleep over something that doesn't concern them.
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holland1945 · « **Reply #109 on:** January 03, 2009, 05:30:50 AM »

People have their own reasons for "caring," but as this is a public forum where in theory we try to help people, when some of us see people making a potential mistake (paying premium price for something that can be obtained at a discount in similar and possibly superior quality elsewhere).

Go see my long post earlier in the thread about how I feel in regards to their marketing (not my joke post a bit later, though earlier than this post here). If someone who averages 230 on a house shot feels these balls give them that 2 - 5 pins they need to win vs. place or place vs. not in tourneys, I can't argue with that. However, Lane #1 does not cater to that (admittedly small) market - they go for the 175 bowler, and that's why their marketing is snake oil...when you average 175, ANY product made by a major manufacturer that is properly chosen, drilled, and prepared will be just as good as a Lane #1 ball...worrying about carry percentage (which is more a function of angle of entry than anything to do with the shape of the core in the ball when it gets to the pocket) when your technique is not getting you to the hole enough (as evidenced by your 175 average) is folly. Want something that hits harder? Go up a pound (unless you're already at 16 heh).

Buy every new Lane #1 release because you enjoy the community surrounding it and/or their customer service after the sale? Great, I have no qualms with that, or even if you just think they're pretty and like to display them on your shelf - just don't tell bowlers why you should buy them in that case, because you aren't one, same as Leica camera collectors who take a few snaps now and then are not photographers (there's obviously a lot of collectors here when you own 15 Lane #1 balls and 75% of them are big hooking pieces, and they're ALL listed in your signature here). Buy it because of the competitive advantage it's going to give you? Just research this - what pros and top amateurs win tournaments BECAUSE they use Lane #1. Heck, which ones win throwing Lane #1, whether they attribute it to that factor or not? Do you really think you know something they don't in buying this product? See how many tournaments you've won compared to them and ask yourself who has the more profitable bowling knowledge.
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triggerman · « **Reply #110 on:** January 03, 2009, 08:17:07 AM »

quote:
People have their own reasons for "caring," but as this is a public forum where in theory we try to help people, when some of us see people making a potential mistake (paying premium price for something that can be obtained at a discount in similar and possibly superior quality elsewhere).

Go see my long post earlier in the thread about how I feel in regards to their marketing (not my joke post a bit later, though earlier than this post here). If someone who averages 230 on a house shot feels these balls give them that 2 - 5 pins they need to win vs. place or place vs. not in tourneys, I can't argue with that. However, Lane #1 does not cater to that (admittedly small) market - they go for the 175 bowler, and that's why their marketing is snake oil...when you average 175, ANY product made by a major manufacturer that is properly chosen, drilled, and prepared will be just as good as a Lane #1 ball...worrying about carry percentage (which is more a function of angle of entry than anything to do with the shape of the core in the ball when it gets to the pocket) when your technique is not getting you to the hole enough (as evidenced by your 175 average) is folly. Want something that hits harder? Go up a pound (unless you're already at 16 heh).

Buy every new Lane #1 release because you enjoy the community surrounding it and/or their customer service after the sale? Great, I have no qualms with that, or even if you just think they're pretty and like to display them on your shelf - just don't tell bowlers why you should buy them in that case, because you aren't one, same as Leica camera collectors who take a few snaps now and then are not photographers (there's obviously a lot of collectors here when you own 15 Lane #1 balls and 75% of them are big hooking pieces, and they're ALL listed in your signature here). Buy it because of the competitive advantage it's going to give you? Just research this - what pros and top amateurs win tournaments BECAUSE they use Lane #1. Heck, which ones win throwing Lane #1, whether they attribute it to that factor or not? Do you really think you know something they don't in buying this product? See how many tournaments you've won compared to them and ask yourself who has the more profitable bowling knowledge.
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Edited on 1/3/2009 6:31 AM

here is where everyone gets all carried away, we as lane 1 users have said it time and time again, you DO NOT PAY A PREMIUM for the lane 1 brand, they are no more expensive then the top line storm, morich or big b balls, the differential is so small anymore that it is a moot point

now if we want to talk about match up which all you that are trying to educate the 175 bowlers tend to forget about. matchup is what makes the end user happy with his purchase. working out of a proshop that sells a lot of lane 1 i can tell you we have had people come in that have stepped up from the grooves, tropical storms and such into their first high performance ball, usually an ebo or hammer as the other shop in town pushes them. they come in and are not happy with their new purchase, the shop spends time tries to help with their new hammer or ebo or big b first and get it to work. if that doesnt get there we show them some lane 1 stuff. 95% of those 175 bowlers end up happier with that lane 1 ball vs that other brand, why i dont know for sure, but my guess is they get a great roll and very good hit vs some hook or jerky action from the other stuff

match up becomes the key, and once again 95% on here match up greatly, thus their reason for staying with them. they find the ads comedic and love to see them, they get excited about a new release just like the fans of other companies due when they put out a new ball Due to its niche market, lane 1 needs that marketing advantage to move some stuff. off the hundreds of balls i have sold, i have taken two back due to the end user being unhappy with performance. i have offered on several other times but the users have all said
"its not the arrow its the indian" and have kept the ball

Ive been throwing lane 1 for about 5 years, i try all sorts of stuff, mainly out of curiousity but you know what, i continue to come back here to this brand not because of marketing, not because some pro uses it, and certainly not because of what is said in this forum, i throw it because i have a choice. most of the new guys i put into a lane 1 ball have done their research, even the 175 guys they all have gone out and looked read reviews seen others blah blah blah. do get off the uneducated decisions most of the people buying balls are not doing so because of marketing it typically is a review, word of mouth or seeing it in action. we have sold in excess of 15 of the dynamos due to what people have seen of the ball how it reacts how it handles different people throwing so on and so forth, i let anyone in league throw my stuff, i let them make that decision themselves people continually ask what i am throwing then ask more questions

maybe once and for all some of you will get off the marketing stuff, people can and do spend their money they way they want, i have people return cause they feel they get a competitive advantage not because of some hype in an ad

normally i am even keep about this whole thing, but watching the BS come in especially by some users who do not throw the stuff is enough, so you dont like the company big deal get over it, dont read the ads, move on throw plastic i dont care just dont knock a company cause you dont agree or you dont see pros using it
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jbuzz31 · « **Reply #111 on:** January 03, 2009, 09:35:43 AM »

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"The prices of the high end balls from all company's are comparable. I frequent 4 different pro shops in my area. All of the high end balls are priced just about the same. Online may show a difference in prices but that is the online shops fault for charging more than they need to, it's not Richies fault. I can get Lane #1 balls in my local shop for $180.00 out the door, drilled with grips and slug. Online shops sell them for MAP $178.00 without drilling, grips and slug. Comparing online shops to B&M shops is like comparing apples to oranges. Other B&M shops who are charging $200.00 plus are ripping people off. Again, not Lane #1's fault but the fault of greedy retailers."

Not every one has access to your shop so not everyone can get a Lane#1 ball out the door for $180, so your point is moot, If he's selling that ball for that much, then he's making it up in the other brands he's selling. no question about it.

Here's your on line comparison:

http://www.bowling.com/products/storm-virtual-gravity.htm

compared to a $178 map pricing for Dynamo..

You must be using Obama math..

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Edited on 1/3/2009 9:33 AM

thats because in the last month or so most of the manufactures have dropped there MAP pricing down because of the economy. Both you and I know damn well when the Cell first came out it was in the 170 range. I will admit lane 1 hasnt dropped theres, but ive heard there soon to follow. so chill the **** out.
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holland1945 · « **Reply #112 on:** January 03, 2009, 11:25:36 AM »

I'm really tired of Lane #1 fanboys comparing Lane #1 online undrilled prices to other companies' brick-and-mortar drilled prices and saying Lane #1 is the same. Lane #1 has ALWAYS been more expensive than its competition, period. There is no denying this, and any apples-to-apples comparison will prove it.
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jbuzz31 · « **Reply #113 on:** January 03, 2009, 11:30:25 AM »

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I'm really tired of Lane #1 fanboys comparing Lane #1 online undrilled prices to other companies' brick-and-mortar drilled prices and saying Lane #1 is the same. Lane #1 has ALWAYS been more expensive than its competition, period. There is no denying this, and any apples-to-apples comparison will prove it.
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oh really?

then how did i manage to get a brand new g force, drilled w/ grips & Slug for 127 out the door a couple months ago?
huh
huh
huh
STFU
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #114 on:** January 03, 2009, 11:34:50 AM »

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I'm really tired of Lane #1 fanboys comparing Lane #1 online undrilled prices to other companies' brick-and-mortar drilled prices and saying Lane #1 is the same. Lane #1 has ALWAYS been more expensive than its competition, period. There is no denying this, and any apples-to-apples comparison will prove it.

The solution is simple.......If it bothers you so much then stay out of the Lane 1 Forum which in turn will also help you sleep better at night. All of your whining is not going to change a thing.
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Edited on 1/3/2009 12:36 PM

holland1945 · « **Reply #115 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:02:37 PM »

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I'm really tired of Lane #1 fanboys comparing Lane #1 online undrilled prices to other companies' brick-and-mortar drilled prices and saying Lane #1 is the same. Lane #1 has ALWAYS been more expensive than its competition, period. There is no denying this, and any apples-to-apples comparison will prove it.
/quote]

oh really?

then how did i manage to get a brand new g force, drilled w/ grips & Slug for 127 out the door a couple months ago?
huh
huh
huh
STFU
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I don't know, how did you?

Is the G Force a current ball? Did you get that price free of any gift certificates, coupons, sales, buy-one-get-one deals, or anything else? Is what you did to get it at this price repeatable by others? Is it first quality? If the answer to any of these questions is "no", it's irrelevant. I'm at buddiesproshop.com right now and even the XXXL is $120 undrilled and before shipping, and that's their cheapest ball there by $30, nothing that is a "hook" ball is under $178. The MOST expensive Brunswick ball there is $146.50. Now, are they jacking up Lane #1 costs, selling Brunswick at a loss, or is there a legitimate $32 price difference between Lane #1 and Brunswick pricing that I'm not imagining?

Buddies is just one example, I can go to other sites and get similar statistics for you...
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holland1945 · « **Reply #116 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:07:30 PM »

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The solution is simple.......If it bothers you so much then stay out of the Lane 1 Forum which in turn will also help you sleep better at night. All of your whining is not going to change a thing.

It's funny that you replied to this post, which had nothing to do with you, yet you completely ignore the post where I reply DIRECTLY TO YOU.

It "bothers" me for the same reason the misc non-bowling threads bother other people so much...the threads appear on the front page of this site and bam. Or I see their posts in other forums with their stupid signatures about how Lane #1 is superior and they carry a 15 ball Lane #1 arsenal of 12 hook monsters and yet profile data is suspiciously absent about their sanctioned average and any tourneys they've won. Lane #1 people choose to peddle their annoying snake oil here despite having 2 forums either devoted to or mainly focused on them (Lane #1's own site and BBE).

My suggestion to you is that if you're tired of those like myself "whining" about Lane #1, stick to the one of the plethora of options that are Lane #1 focused so you can have a little incestuous circle jerk about how pretty your bowling balls are with no criticism from the likes of myself and others.
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jbuzz31 · « **Reply #117 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:07:34 PM »

quote:
quote:
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I'm really tired of Lane #1 fanboys comparing Lane #1 online undrilled prices to other companies' brick-and-mortar drilled prices and saying Lane #1 is the same. Lane #1 has ALWAYS been more expensive than its competition, period. There is no denying this, and any apples-to-apples comparison will prove it.
/quote]

oh really?

then how did i manage to get a brand new g force, drilled w/ grips & Slug for 127 out the door a couple months ago?
huh
huh
huh
STFU
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I don't know, how did you?

Is the G Force a current ball? Did you get that price free of any gift certificates, coupons, sales, buy-one-get-one deals, or anything else? Is what you did to get it at this price repeatable by others? Is it first quality? If the answer to any of these questions is "no", it's irrelevant. I'm at buddiesproshop.com right now and even the XXXL is $120 undrilled and before shipping, and that's their cheapest ball there by $30, nothing that is a "hook" ball is under $178. The MOST expensive Brunswick ball there is $146.50. Now, are they jacking up Lane #1 costs, selling Brunswick at a loss, or is there a legitimate $32 price difference between Lane #1 and Brunswick pricing that I'm not imagining?

Buddies is just one example, I can go to other sites and get similar statistics for you...
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still on the website, no buy one get one, anyone could walk into the proshop and get that same price and yes it is first quality not a blem
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Steven · « **Reply #118 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:14:19 PM »

Holland/THB: Some observations:

quote:
People have their own reasons for "caring," but as this is a public forum where in theory we try to help people, when some of us see people making a potential mistake (paying premium price for something that can be obtained at a discount in similar and possibly superior quality elsewhere).

Given your nonexistent experience with Lane#1, as well as your personal trials as a bowler, why do feel positioned to offer advice and conclude 'a potential mistake' might be made?

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Go see my long post earlier in the thread about how I feel in regards to their marketing (not my joke post a bit later, though earlier than this post here).

I'm honored that your opinion on Lane#1 marketing is the end all on the subject. The fact is that all companies embellish to some degree in marketing. You're like a dog who can never figure out there is no meat left on the bone.

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If someone who averages 230 on a house shot feels these balls give them that 2 - 5 pins they need to win vs. place or place vs. not in tourneys, I can't argue with that.

One of the few observations you've got right. In the interests of balance I have to give you credit here.

quote:
However, Lane #1 does not cater to that (admittedly small) market - they go for the 175 bowler, and that's why their marketing is snake oil...

Hmmm. Now where did you pick this up? Are you simply parroting this from another Lane#1 troll, or do you have real information? I've never seen marketing material stating Lane#1 is going after the 175 bowler. Please point out any published Lane#1 marketing that substantiates your claim.

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Just research this - what pros and top amateurs win tournaments BECAUSE they use Lane #1. Heck, which ones win throwing Lane #1, whether they attribute it to that factor or not? Do you really think you know something they don't in buying this product? See how many tournaments you've won compared to them and ask yourself who has the more profitable bowling knowledge.

Pros use whatever company provides them the most incentive -- period. Pros are money whores (just like the rest of us), and they follow the scent of the all mighty buck. As far as amateurs, you can't possibly have any clue about who accomplishes what with the product.

Brick probably said it best -- please read closely:

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The solution is simple.......If it bothers you so much then stay out of the Lane 1 Forum which in turn will also help you sleep better at night. All of your whining is not going to change a thing.

Thanks to Brick for making things simple.......

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #119 on:** January 03, 2009, 03:39:12 PM »

quote:
My suggestion to you is that if you're tired of those like myself "whining" about Lane #1, stick to the one of the plethora of options that are Lane #1 focused so you can have a little incestuous circle jerk about how pretty your bowling balls are with no criticism from the likes of myself and others.

Holland, my advice to morons like yourself is..... if you don't like what Lane 1 does, then as already said before, STAY OUT OF THE LANE 1 FORUM and you might be able to sleep at night for a change. Might also help from having your panties bunched up in a knot all of the time. Would you like some cheese with your whine???

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Spider Ball Bowler · « **Reply #120 on:** January 03, 2009, 03:44:10 PM »

This is my favorite topic to read

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