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Doug Sterner

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The Big Curve
« on: March 26, 2010, 04:16:17 PM »
I have had the opportunity to throw my Big Curve for a few games now so I can give some initial feedback on it''s performance.

For bowler stats and lane conditions see my profile.

Ball specs:
Pre-Drilling................Post Drilling
15# 3 oz.........GW......14# 14-1/2 oz
3.0 oz..............TW......5/8 oz.
Pin...3-4".........SW......5/8 oz.
........................FW......3/8 oz.

Layout....60 x 5 x 60, weighthole 3/4 x 2" on the VAL, 2" below PAP

Surface....box finish

Well, as others have said, the ball lives up to it''s name. The ball reaction is just that...a big curve to the pocket. Yes the ball is perhaps lacking in aesthetic appeal to some but the performance makes up for it.

This layout is very similar to the layout I have on my Mission (angles are the same but the pin to PAP is 4" on the Mission). What I see in comparison is the same strong midlane read as the Mission but a hair sooner. I am attributing this to the solid vs pearl coverstock difference.

I am also seeing the Big Curve''s breakpoint 2-3 feet earlier than the Mission, again presumably due to the coverstock.

I tried the ball in our Thursday night 5 man league. The first 2 games out of the box were 205 and 225. I put it away for game 3 since the ball was just going way too early by then. I ran out of approach and was not comfortable playing so deep with such a tight breakpoint trying to keep the ball in the oil.

I again tried the ball in my Friday night mixed league. Games 1 and 2 were 222 and 207 thanks to my crappy spare shooting. The Big Curve watched from the bag for game 3 again in favor of my original Curve.

The Big Curve looks very promising and should be a great addition to Lane 1''s line up. Personally I would have preferred a nice dark purple swirled into the white or even a green/ white swirl. Looks aside the ball has a strong midlane like the Lane 1''s of the past. The breakpoint is smooth and the backend strong and continuous.

I will post more as I throw the ball some more.
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Edited on 3/28/2010 4:58 PM
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 04:54:56 PM »
I have thrown my Big Curve some more and can provide some more insight....

Comparisons....

The Big Curve reminds me a lot of the old Black Raspberry but stronger all the way around. The ball clears the heads easily, has a strong and even midlane reaction and, again, a strong and controllable backend reaction.

The Red Death....the Big Curve has a stronger midlane than the Red Death but teh RD has a stronger and more angular backend.

The BuzzBomb...the Big Curve is similar to the Buzzbomb in terms of ball reaction. Where the Big Curve is different is in how it adapts to surface, rev rate, ball speed and release changes. When I can throw my Buzzbomb with my "A game" the ball is fantastic but if I need to change away from my "A game" the ball needs to go back in the bag. The Big Curve allows me to change my hand position or trajectory and not lose a pin.


As I originally stated I think this is going to be a great addition to Lane 1's line up. I personally feel this new back cut asymmetric core design has given the Curves the look of the Lane 1 balls from years past with the added backend reaction that most bowlera are looking for in a ball.

Reaction to the color?????

Let's not go there :-)
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 08:30:51 PM »
I used mine Tuesday night and man did people give me crap about the color.

Good thing is Was US open pattern week so I needed the oil for sure

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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 09:10:36 PM »
I friend of mine has one, I am not impressed to say the least. Glad I am not the one who has to throw it. the particular drilling rolls at his feet and is like an arrow weaker than his Curve. Kinda unfair, but I call it a FLOP!!!

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Doug Sterner

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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 10:13:02 PM »
I am a bit confused here norevs....you say the ball rolls at his feet and is weaker than his curve so you call the ball a flop.

Has it occurred to you that the drilling does not match up to the bowler or the lane condition?

It sounds to me like the ball driller drilled the ball way too aggressive for your buddy...this ball has very good length for a solid resin as far as I can see.
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 04:27:09 PM »
Yes I know it''s a bad drilling for him. I have been trying to get him to plug and re drill but he is stubborn. It is not a strong drilling, (barrel). It promotes a smooth back end, his curve is also drilled the same and is much more angular then the big curve. Now I say angular but as angular as that drilling promotes. I will get the conversion for dual angle and let you know what they are if interested. Just overall not impressed so far. On a side note Doug, I did say it was kinda unfair.

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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2010, 09:20:26 PM »
quote:
On a side note Doug, I did say it was kinda unfair.


Understood...my bad :-)
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 12:43:36 AM »
No worries my friend. I value your opinion.
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2010, 10:40:54 PM »
wow really sounds like one im gonna like
love a good strong mid lane ball
really liked the BB, but have also really liked many of the Mass Bias releases
I seem to really prefer a solid cover
nebula, although a particle, was a midlane monster for me and a heavy roller
color no matter
performance matter imo
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2010, 11:44:20 PM »
bowlerdawg...I too loved my Buzzbomb and I have to say this ball is even better. I find the ball more responsive to changes in hand position, ball speed, release tilt and ball roll.

I have both balls drilled similar and covers are similarly prepped as well.

Now if they had just chosen another color besides the mauve color....
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2010, 07:16:43 PM »
i like the color, sorry
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2010, 07:06:15 AM »
The big Curve puts the other latest releases to shame...
Other companies who claim their ball goes long snaps hard and blows the rack( like all company's do) will be put to shame once this bad boy is seen!!

This ball really is the most versatile ball I have seen in a long time, Perfect for your longer patterns... the Curve Combo is a great asset to anyone's game.
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 09:13:17 PM »
The Lover is 100% correct....this ball is so incredibly versatile it's disgusting. The ball does glaze up pretty quick but a quick touch with a 2000 grit Siaair pad puts it right back to box finish.

For a solid resin with such a strong core this ball does have very good length with a surprising backend.

I love this ball.
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 11:57:42 AM »
Drilled mine yesterday(60 X 30 pin 5" to pap) put a light coat of polish on it and holy cow,very strong.I took a ton of crap for the color until my team took 3 and I shot 690. A bad adjustment cost me a nice 7. Very pleased with the ball.
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Re: The Big Curve
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 03:31:25 PM »
I had the opportunity to demo a Big Curve last weekend. The ball was drilled with the 45x45 degree layout, pin above the fingers.

At least from my experience, the ball is absolutely the strongest piece Lane#1 has ever produced. That means stronger than the Red Death, Dynamo, BuzzBomb and Super Carbide Bomb -- all fairly strong pieces in their own right. The recovery when this ball sniffs any friction is beyond anything I expected.

For me with a NIB cover, this ball would not be usable in league beyond a fresh first game. I can see lots of uses for medium rev players (like myself) who need to get deeper on longer sport/PBA patterns. The last thing I need right now is more equipment, but I'm so impressed with the Big Curve that I'm having one drilled up. It won't get a lot of use, but it's going to be handy when needed.
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