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Bar5003

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The Buzzbomb
« on: January 02, 2008, 03:46:19 AM »

 

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Re: The Buzzbomb
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2008, 09:50:04 PM »
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that ebay seller frequents this website all the time..
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Jim, I think that person is "drillwizzard" on this site if I am not mistaken.
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Re: The Buzzbomb
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2008, 11:48:52 PM »
mikeywg, I hate to break it to you, but kidace IS drillwizard. Here is his profile...

Lefty
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Lane#1's Top selling pro shop 3 years running, noone sells more Buzzsaws.


I own a shop in the Midwest.

E-mail for prices on anything to do with bowling. I specialize in Buzzsaws, with the current line always in stock. I also almost always have rare NIB Lane #1 gems in stock.

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Re: The Buzzbomb
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2008, 04:46:58 AM »
Well wait and see the price.  Lane 1 is suppose to  be MANDATING ((lowest that can be sold for) on internet prices also, just like EBONITE .

Brick, You are correct.
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Re: The Buzzbomb
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2008, 04:58:19 AM »
Brick,

I agree with you. They are same person.. I have dealt with him here and on Ebay over the years..



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mikeywg, I hate to break it to you, but kidace IS drillwizard. Here is his profile...

Lefty
Book avg 238('06)
300- 13
800- 5

Lane#1's Top selling pro shop 3 years running, noone sells more Buzzsaws.


I own a shop in the Midwest.

E-mail for prices on anything to do with bowling. I specialize in Buzzsaws, with the current line always in stock. I also almost always have rare NIB Lane #1 gems in stock.

Kidace1@aol.com

 

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Re: The Buzzbomb
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2008, 06:33:25 AM »
Looks like this, but purple:
http://www.blockbusterbowling.com/product_p/viz019.htm
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Re: The Buzzbomb
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2008, 06:46:04 AM »
How can Lane #1 get away with calling their cover Sure-Grip, when Roto already had a cover with that name? Is it just the hyphen in between Sure and Grip that makes it okay?

Just wondering.


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Re: The Buzzbomb
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2008, 07:22:32 AM »
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How can Lane #1 get away with calling their cover Sure-Grip, when Roto already had a cover with that name? Is it just the hyphen in between Sure and Grip that makes it okay?

Just wondering.




RotoGrip and Lane#1 are both in the wrong with the name.
Chrysler's version of a PosiTraction rear differential is called a "Sure Grip"

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Re: The Buzzbomb
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2008, 07:59:16 AM »
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How can Lane #1 get away with calling their cover Sure-Grip, when Roto already had a cover with that name? Is it just the hyphen in between Sure and Grip that makes it okay?

Just wondering.




might be trade marks are funny that way
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Re: The Buzzbomb
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2008, 08:22:38 AM »
Some information on trademarks:
 
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A trademark may be eligible for registration, or registrable, if amongst other things it performs the essential trademark function, and has distinctive character. Registrability can be understood as a continuum, with "inherently distinctive" marks at one end, "generic" and "descriptive" marks with no distinctive character at the other end, and "suggestive" and "arbitrary" marks lying between these two points. This part of registration is known as Section 3 of the trademark act in the UK as opposed to Section 5 which is concerned with prior rights of others. A mark must satisfy both sections to become registered.

  • A fanciful / inherently distinctive trademark is prima facie registrable, and comprises an entirely invented or "fanciful" sign. For example, "Kodak" had no meaning before it was adopted and used as a trademark in relation to goods, whether photographic goods or otherwise. Invented marks are neologisms which will not previously have been found in any dictionary.


  • An arbitrary trademark is usually a common word which is used in a meaningless context (e.g. "Apple" for computers). Such marks consist of words or images which have some dictionary meaning before being adopted as trademarks, but which are used in connection with products or services unrelated to that dictionary meaning. For example, Salty would be an arbitrary mark if it used in connection with telephones, e.g. Salty Telephones, as the term "salt" has no particular connection with such products.


  • A suggestive trademark tends to indicate the nature, quality, or a characteristic of the products or services in relation to which it is used, but does not describe this characteristic, and requires imagination on the part of the consumer to identify the characteristic. Suggestive marks invoke the consumer’s perceptive imagination. An example of a suggestive mark is Blu-ray, a new technology of high-capacity data storage.


  • A descriptive mark is a term with a dictionary meaning which is used in connection with products or services directly related to that meaning. An example might be Salty used in connection with saltine crackers or anchovies. Such terms are not registrable unless it can be shown that distinctive character has been established in the term through extensive use in the marketplace (see further below). Lektronic was famously refused protection by the USPTO on ground of being descriptive for electronic goods.


  • A generic term is the common name for the products or services in connection with which it is used, such as "salt" when used in connection with sodium chloride. A generic term is not capable of serving the essential trademark function of distinguishing the products or services of a business from the products or services of other businesses, and therefore cannot be afforded any legal protection. This is because there has to be some term which may generally be used by anyone—including other manufacturers—to refer to a product without using some organization's proprietary trademark. Marks which become generic after losing distinctive character are known as genericized trademarks.


  • It can be seen from the examples above that the distinctive character of a term is closely related to the products or services in relation to which the term is used.


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    Trademarks rights must be maintained through actual lawful use of the trademark. These rights will cease if a mark is not actively used for a period of time, normally 5 years in most jurisdictions. In the case of a trademark registration, failure to actively use the mark in the lawful course of trade, or to enforce the registration in the event of infringement, may also expose the registration itself to become liable for an application for the removal from the register after a certain period of time on the grounds of "non-use". It is not necessary for a trademark owner to take enforcement action action against all infringement if it can be shown that the owner perceived the infringement to be minor and inconsequential. This is designed to prevent owners from continually being tied up in litigation for fear of cancellation. An owner can at any time commence action for infringement against a third party as long as it had not previously notified the third party of its discontent following third party use and then failed to take action within a reasonable period of time (called acquiescence). The owner can always reserve the right to take legal action until a court decides that the third party had gain notoriety which the owner 'must' have been aware of. It will be for the third party to prove their use of the mark is substantial as it the onus of a company using a mark is to check they are not infringing previously registered rights. In the US, owing to the overwhelming number of unregistered rights, trademark applicants are advised to perform searches not just of the trademark register but of local business directories and relevant trade press.


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    The extent to which a trademark owner may prevent unauthorized use of trademarks which are the same as or similar to its trademark depends on various factors such as whether its trademark is registered, the similarity of the trademarks involved, the similarity of the products and/or services involved, and whether the owner’s trademark is well known.


    Nothing funny about trademarks triggerman, its black and white.

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    Re: The Buzzbomb
    « Reply #25 on: January 03, 2008, 08:35:45 AM »
    well since their ad shows the tm symbol, one of two things has happened

    they got a trade mark on the name

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    they came to a licensing agreement with storm, since the suregrip stock was used on the sd73 classic (a remake) recently

    funny how back door deals work

    I dont know which it is, but if they were issued a trademark on the name, then indeed trademark registrations are funny, especially to the individuals (myself included) that dont know for sure how the application/approval process works


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    Re: The Buzzbomb
    « Reply #26 on: January 03, 2008, 08:48:12 AM »
    THIS CANNOT HAVE HAPPENED!

    A Buzzsaw with a Storm Coverstock?

    DOH!




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    Re: The Buzzbomb
    « Reply #27 on: January 03, 2008, 08:52:29 AM »
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    THIS CANNOT HAVE HAPPENED!

    A Buzzsaw with a Storm Coverstock?

    DOH!




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    I did not say that, storm owns the trademark via rotogrip on the name suregrip, I only said that there is the possiblity of lane #1 coming to a "licensing" agreement for the name, and since none of us work there or sit beside richie while he does this stuff, it is purely speculation on my part
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    Grayson

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    Re: The Buzzbomb
    « Reply #28 on: January 03, 2008, 08:55:59 AM »
    I was making a joke!

    any ball is good! even Storm


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    Re: The Buzzbomb
    « Reply #29 on: January 03, 2008, 08:57:04 AM »
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    I was making a joke!

    any ball is good! even Storm


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    Re: The Buzzbomb
    « Reply #30 on: January 03, 2008, 09:07:54 AM »
    quote:
    well since their ad shows the tm symbol, one of two things has happened

    they got a trade mark on the name

    or

    they came to a licensing agreement with storm, since the suregrip stock was used on the sd73 classic (a remake) recently

    funny how back door deals work

    I dont know which it is, but if they were issued a trademark on the name, then indeed trademark registrations are funny, especially to the individuals (myself included) that dont know for sure how the application/approval process works


    Or its an unregistered trademark, and was just slapped on there.
    Trademarks work somewhat like patents in they can be in "patent pending" status to deter others from using that mark likeness until it can be approved or registered.

    I'm leaning more in that direction than "back door deals", I'm not into that sorta thing, but apparently you Lane #1 guys are.

    Its HIGHLY unlikely a company would loan or clear a trademark or its likeness to a market competitor, its just not a smart business practice.