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charlest

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The Lane#1 Test
« on: October 18, 2003, 01:51:10 AM »
OK, I am thinking, considering taking the Lane#1 test; it is not yet a firm decision. Here is my quandry, if I decide to test the value of a Lane#1 ball:

I have a medium to medium-heavy scratch league in which I am fooling around with several balls so far. The oil pattern has varied significantly more than the past few years from the lighter side of medium to the heavier side of medium-heavy.

I have slightly better than average rev rate (some say much higher than average) but would never be considered a cranker. Speed is medium to medium-slow, depending on the condition and the balls I have with me.

Lane#1 has the Cranberry which seems like it would be too weak and the Black Cherry Bomb whose core seems WAY TOO Strong for me. The Blueberry is not available.

What do the Lane#1 experts think ?

I've already asked Doug Sterner for prices on these two balls. So, Doug, feel free to chime in.

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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2003, 05:13:29 PM »
charlest,

what do you use now for this league ??
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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2003, 05:16:43 PM »
On medium lane conditions, you could probably get both balls to work. I would drill the Black Cherry Bomb CG axis with a 4" pin, under the ring finger, hole on your axis. This will tame the BCB down a bit, making it more versatile on different conditions.

With the Cranberry, I would go with a CG out leverage, i.e. 4 1/2 x 3, ending with a 3 to 2 ratio top to side. This will make it fairly strong and controllable. Adjusting the cover on this ball can do wonders. =:^D
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charlest

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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2003, 05:27:36 PM »
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charlest,

what do you use now for this league ??
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I've used a Fire Quantum drilled 5x5.5, pin over ring finger (good on medium to medium heavy, not good on heavier medium-heavy,
Power Surge, drilled 4x5, pin under ring finger (STRONG ball; it IS an oiler)
Revolution Renegade, drilled 5x4, pin under ring finger, on a medium condition.



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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2003, 05:30:38 PM »
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On medium lane conditions, you could probably get both balls to work. I would drill the Black Cherry Bomb CG axis with a 4" pin, under the ring finger, hole on your axis. This will tame the BCB down a bit, making it more versatile on different conditions.


Pin at 4", CG on PAP/axis??

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With the Cranberry, I would go with a CG out leverage, i.e. 4 1/2 x 3, ending with a 3 to 2 ratio top to side. This will make it fairly strong and controllable. Adjusting the cover on this ball can do wonders. =:^D


I am somewhat familiar with the PK 18 cover.
This is a drilling, almost exactly what I was thinking about with this ball, even though I rarely drill balls this way. Interesting.
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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2003, 05:41:42 PM »
In my humble opinion, don't spend the extra money on a Lane #1 ball. I'm sure they leave corner pins and solid 8 or 9s just like any other ball. Use the supply & demand theory, and don't buy their stuff....eventually, they'll come back to the pack with their prices, since no one is buying. Then, perhaps, we can all try one. Does that sound ok?
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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2003, 06:15:31 PM »
Bob, Lane 1 bowlers don't go by price, they go by performance. If Lane 1 balls performan best for them (as they do for me) then that's what they are going to buy regardless of price.





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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2003, 06:51:12 PM »
Brickguy..
     I do know what you're saying, and I admire your loyalty. I also realize this has been debated on this forum in the past. But I still believe that you can take the $30-50 savings from not purchasing a Buzzsaw, and go practice your game more, pay for some resurfacing on other equipment,etc.
     Some day I would like to try a Buzzsaw, but the prices are a little too high for me. I never bought a Quantum for the same reasons.
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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2003, 07:01:41 PM »
Dr Bob,

I not only am not interested in getting into the price factor at this point in time, I refuse to. If you continue this discussion, you will frustrate what I am trying to achieve. That will annoy me considerably, as we, ballreviews.com inmates, have discussed the price issue ad nauseam. You are late in entering this facet of Lane#1. Please see the other posts in the Lane#1 forum if you are interested in adding to that topic. This thread is most definitely not about that topic.

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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2003, 07:40:04 PM »
OK guys, but just offering my opinion. Sorry if I annoyed you.
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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2003, 10:08:15 PM »
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On medium lane conditions, you could probably get both balls to work. I would drill the Black Cherry Bomb CG axis with a 4" pin, under the ring finger, hole on your axis. This will tame the BCB down a bit, making it more versatile on different conditions.
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Pin at 4", CG on PAP/axis??

Why the ? mark Charlest..? This is a very good drilling. You may even like it in a Cranberry. =:^D
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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2003, 10:24:31 PM »
Well Charles, if it were me I'd look into the Black Cherry Bomb. I always follow one train of thought when it comes to selecting a bal lfor an oily condition...I'd rather have too much ball than not enough.

Depending on the condition of the backends you may or may not get away with a Cranberry. My Cranberry has me confused. I drilled it the same as my Emerald (4x4) and the Emerald will outhook it 2 to 1. My original impression of the Cranberry was "WOW!!! What an awesome ball!!!!" but recently it has just confused the daylights out of me. Over the summer while I was testing it, the ball was great but once they went to the new oil and new pattern, I can't get the ball to work properly even with significant coverstock work.

My Black Cherry is drilled 4-1/2 x 2-1/4 and it is excellent on anything too heavy for my Emerald.

I do have 1 more NIB Blueberry but it will take considerable begging, pleading and bribery to get it away from me.

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charlest

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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2003, 06:20:12 AM »
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On medium lane conditions, you could probably get both balls to work. I would drill the Black Cherry Bomb CG axis with a 4" pin, under the ring finger, hole on your axis. This will tame the BCB down a bit, making it more versatile on different conditions.
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Pin at 4", CG on PAP/axis??

Why the ? mark Charlest..? This is a very good drilling. You may even like it in a Cranberry. =:^D


T-GOD,

I wasn't questioning your recommendation, although I have never drilled a ball that way before (My speed is too slow for my revs, in my opinion).
I was trying to make sure that is what you meant.

Doug,

When you said,
"My Cranberry has me confused. I drilled it the same as my Emerald (4x4) and the Emerald will outhook it 2 to 1."
did you mean on the same oil pattern?
If so, then I'd worry a lot about using the Cranberry on a league where the oil pattern can vary from medium to medium-heavy.

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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2003, 09:54:37 AM »
Thanks micky...got it fixed.
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Re: The Lane#1 Test
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2003, 09:01:31 PM »
Charlest,

If you speak of Carolier lanes, first I'd like to ask you what line do you play there?

When I bowled there the shot was outside the seven board, is it the same as we've spoke about before?

If the shot hasn't changed I'd be inclined to believe T-GOD and go with the Black Cherry Bomb.  It may be possible to use the Cherry Bomb also, with a strong backend drilling.  I used the Crimson Executioner up the boards and the backend was strong enough to turn onver at the backend.

You might also be able to use the Carbide Bomb Pearl there, most definitely the Blue Berry but it would be a matter of cover prep/drilling.

I managed to score well with both the Enforcer and the Crimson, so if there's a ball in the Lane 1 line up that's similar to the Enforcer that will work also.  

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