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Title: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Iketown300 on April 06, 2005, 02:41:26 AM
The New H20 is on the Lane #1 website under what's next and it does look pretty good, same colors as uraniums though but the offset diamonds look pretty good.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: bowler257628 on April 06, 2005, 11:04:16 AM
http://lane1bowling.com/images/h2o_nomads-walking.jpg so you dont go searchin for it!
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Steven on April 06, 2005, 11:33:10 AM
Hmmm... A go long, snap hard ball. Looks like it might be an attempt to replace the reactions found in the now retired Golden Nugget/Cranberry.

That's a risk, because those balls where hit-and-miss with a lot of people. That new Hybrid cover is amazing, so this ball might be a better cover/core match for more bowlers.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 06, 2005, 11:51:23 AM
I'm in love.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 06, 2005, 11:55:00 AM
I can't wait I love pearls and the weaker balls in general work better for my game.  This should be a winner for my personal game.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on April 06, 2005, 12:16:19 PM
I'm confused as I thought the core of the H20 was going to be from the retired Pearl Cherry C2.  With the way that mini-diamond is offset in the new H20, would it be classified as an asymmetical core?
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Edited on 4/6/2005 12:10 PM
Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 06, 2005, 12:17:29 PM
It has been said all long C2 Offset core thats what they called it from day one.  Not the classic C2 core.  Yes it is assymetrical.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on April 06, 2005, 12:27:25 PM
I guess I didn't think too much about the "offset" part until I actually saw a picture of it...
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Edited on 4/6/2005 12:21 PM
Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Iketown300 on April 06, 2005, 12:36:11 PM
So the first asymmetrical by lane #1 seems pretty interesting.  Seems like to be the fit between the pearl uranium and the bullet for sure as there is a huge gap right now between them.  Just my thoughts so far.  Maybe it's aka the zone classic of lane #1.....
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Iketown300 on April 06, 2005, 12:54:24 PM
Might be triggerman, i never threw the emerald so i couldn't tell you but most likely i think you are correct.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on April 06, 2005, 12:55:48 PM
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Like I said a replacement for the retired Emerald?

The cores and covers are different in each so I don't see how:
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.asp?ballid=1759
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Edited on 4/6/2005 12:50 PM
Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 06, 2005, 01:00:43 PM
Triggerman didn't mean a exact replacement he meant a certain type of reaction replacement similiar overall to that of the Emerald hopefully anyway I loved the emerald.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 06, 2005, 03:20:13 PM
Hopefully below the uranium pearl and dirty bomb and above the xxxl also above the bullet which you don't have.  We don't know for sure till we throw it.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 06, 2005, 03:23:51 PM
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It will fit right in my bag
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Damn why didn't I think of that.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: jw300 on April 06, 2005, 03:44:06 PM
I can't wait!!!!
http://www.mybowler.com/Latest+News/1497.aspx

Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Bjaardker on April 06, 2005, 04:38:08 PM
<sarcasm>Gee thanks lane #1 for listening & making a weaker & more "classic" style of core. It's good to see that you haven't lost sight of what won you so many of your fans (like me) in the first place, your amazing even roll from your perfectly symmetrical core on all 3 Axis. </sarcasm>

Sorry guys, I don't mean to poop in the punch bowl, but talk about a downer.

WOAHHH Another ball with a strong core wrapped in the Hybrid radio/18..

Big whoop.
Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 06, 2005, 09:09:41 PM
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<sarcasm>Gee thanks lane #1 for listening & making a weaker & more "classic" style of core. It's good to see that you haven't lost sight of what won you so many of your fans (like me) in the first place, your amazing even roll from your perfectly symmetrical core on all 3 Axis. </sarcasm>

Sorry guys, I don't mean to poop in the punch bowl, but talk about a downer.

WOAHHH Another ball with a strong core wrapped in the Hybrid radio/18..

Big whoop.


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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on April 07, 2005, 07:34:28 AM
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Lane #1 needs to put out a value line with the c and c2 core in a weaker shell or a reintroduction of some of their really good gems of the past


Exactly
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 07, 2005, 09:47:54 AM
I could have told you that about the testing i mean.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Bjaardker on April 07, 2005, 11:13:38 AM
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Actually, the cover is the pearl hybrid which hasn't been used yet.And the core which hasn't been used yet. Also I might add, most people have been asking for a reintroduction of the C2 core, adn that is probaably why they did it. But is is different, and something Lane#1 has never done, as it is their first asymmetrical, so really it's nothing like any of their other stuff, so your pretty wrong.


Quote from the first ad:

"The Buzzsaw Hybrid Offset combines Lane #1's Hybrid Radioactive 18 coverstock..."

Maybe you have other information than me, but I see no where in there that it is a new pearl cover. Right there in the ad it says that it's the Hybrid Radioactive 18, the exact same nomenclature given to the cover on the hybrid dirty bomb.

Quote from Hybrid DB AD: "Lane #1 has instituted "gene technology" in the formulation of resins, creating a new  HybridTM  RadioActiveTM  18 reactive resin coverstock."

So to chastise me on that point is unfair. It's Lane #1's fault for not marketing it correctly if it truly is a different cover.

As far as the core goes, that is not the C/2, and those of us who've been clamoring for its reintroduction are sad to see yet another strong core, instead of what brought us to throw lane#1 in the first place. So I'm NOT "pretty wrong" as you decided to put it. I'm disappointed.

All of the trolls who have constantly come into this forum have got all of you so agitated that when someone who is a saw FAN doesn't like what he sees, you jump all over him.

Lose the attitude people. It's not very becoming.
Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Bjaardker on April 07, 2005, 11:15:58 AM
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Lane #1 needs to put out a value line with the c and c2 core in a weaker shell or a reintroduction of some of their really good gems of the past


Exactly


That makes 3 of us. As a matter of fact, this request is the only one I've consistantly seen anywhere reguarding Lane#1. I Don't remember anyone saying "Boy I really wish they would make an asymmetrical ball with a hybrid cover".
Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Bjaardker on April 07, 2005, 11:29:43 AM
Thank you for the response triggerman. I can see your point about the core, the Time Zone moved a lot smoother than any other asym I've ever seen.

I'm not saying the ball is going to be a hunk of junk, I would never say that about a ball that I haven't thrown. I do know from exprience that the bomb cores dont match up with my game very well.

I'm just expressing my surprise that Lane#1 would stray even farther from what won them so many fans.

I'll take your word for it on the cover, but someone should tell lane #1 that if they are going to use a different cover on a different ball... maybe they should rename the coverstock.
Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Steven on April 07, 2005, 11:35:00 AM
Bjaardker has a point. I too was disappointed that Lane#1 went with a ball like the H20. For all the talk about versatility of asymmetric core, what they give you are options for more freaky types of hook. I've "been there, done that" with asymmetrics from the other ball companies.  The bottom line is that asymmetric cores are a marketing tool to sell more balls. If you can't get a symmetric to perform adequately, you have bigger bowling issues to contend with.

Will Lane#1 come out with a value line? Who knows. If they think they can make money doing it without devaluing the brand, they will. Otherwise they won't.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Steven on April 07, 2005, 12:39:28 PM
triggerman: If you want smooth predictability, there is no better choice than than the traditional symmetric diamond core. If you want good controllable backend, go with with the modified bomb core in the Dirty twins.

We may have to agree to disagree on this, but my experience is that aysmmetrics bring little to the table. You can produce some real interesting hook reactions depending on placement of the MB, but what you end up getting is something that works well only on very condition specific situations that may or may not last.

Lane#1 has to survive, and since there is a demand for these types of balls, they probably feel compelled to provide a product. I just don't see this as breakthrough offering that will be of interest to most existing Lane#1 enthusiasts.
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on April 07, 2005, 02:35:29 PM
I heard about 7-8 months ago that an asymmetrical was in the works for lane 1. What I find funny about this is that in the past lane 1 said asymmetrical equipment was of no interest to them because they do not offer the same performance as the symmetrical stuff.

HM...
Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: stanski on April 10, 2005, 08:47:16 PM
So if the diamond core is that much better (or should i say matches up for a good roll for more bowlers), why are they STILL altering the shape? What is so special about this core when it has peices removed, peices shifted, and peices added? Is my logic off, or does this also not make sense to others also?
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Doug Sterner on April 10, 2005, 11:14:47 PM
Let me clear up a few things....

1. Coverstock...it is a PEARLIZED version of teh RadioActive 18 Hybrid coverstock.

2. The Core is an IMPROVED variation of the C2 core. By offsetting the bottom diamond it has allowed them more drilling options and yet another fine tuning device for the advanced driller.

3. The combination of the core and cover will produce a ball that is replacing the Pearl Cherry Bomb, Silver DIamond, Emerald Pearl and Viper Pearl.

The ball is designed to be aggressive but on the appropriate condition...it's designed as an aggressive lighter oil ball so treat it as such.

Let's not condemn the ball or speculate on it until someone outside of the Lane 1 family has thrown one.

I personally think it is going to fill the void in Lane 1's line perfectly and is going to be a big hit.

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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 11, 2005, 09:36:10 AM
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I heard about 7-8 months ago that an asymmetrical was in the works for lane 1. What I find funny about this is that in the past lane 1 said asymmetrical equipment was of no interest to them because they do not offer the same performance as the symmetrical stuff.

HM...


I second that !!!
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 11, 2005, 09:38:18 AM
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I heard about 7-8 months ago that an asymmetrical was in the works for lane 1. What I find funny about this is that in the past lane 1 said asymmetrical equipment was of no interest to them because they do not offer the same performance as the symmetrical stuff.

HM...


I second that !!!
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Haters!
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 11, 2005, 09:44:31 AM
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I heard about 7-8 months ago that an asymmetrical was in the works for lane 1. What I find funny about this is that in the past lane 1 said asymmetrical equipment was of no interest to them because they do not offer the same performance as the symmetrical stuff.

HM...


I second that !!!
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Haters!



No Jesse...not at all.....it's a valid question! Is it not ?
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Title: Re: The New H20 is on the lane #1 website
Post by: JPRLane1 on April 11, 2005, 09:48:08 AM
I just wanted to type haters,  Honestly I don't have actual knowledge of Lane#1 claiming this, if Ex said so I have to believe him.  I am sure though they want a piece of the Assym market one way or the other, I am guessing until now they couldn't get the right cover/core combo to find a good look on their balls while maintaining diamond shape overall and still offering assymetry.
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