Post by: Joe Jr on August 15, 2006, 10:37:54 AM
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Post by: Saw Mill on August 15, 2006, 06:47:42 PM
Question; How would they be any less great?
Dave
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Post by: triggerman on August 15, 2006, 07:47:20 PM
Post by: triggerman on August 15, 2006, 08:33:20 PM
Post by: Joe Jr on August 15, 2006, 08:45:54 PM
It's ok though I hear columbia has fixed there cracking problems.....
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Post by: Saw Mill on August 15, 2006, 08:54:46 PM
Just spit out what you are "REALLY" saying.
Dave
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Post by: WSUstroker on August 15, 2006, 08:59:52 PM
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Post by: smash8-10split on August 15, 2006, 09:00:31 PM
he said that he wonders if they are going to be so great when brunswick stops doing their covers
then says its ok thought because columbia has solved the cracking problem
so im assuming that lane 1 is switching to columbia..
man, that means c300 will be in with dyno thane/track/amf...and now possibly lane 1?
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Post by: Joe Jr on August 15, 2006, 09:02:41 PM
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I'd hate to put words into Joe's mouth, but I bet I can figure it out... Lane 1 is re-releasing the Blueberry.
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lol
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Post by: a_ak57 on August 15, 2006, 09:06:41 PM
You may thank me later.
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Post by: triggerman on August 15, 2006, 09:07:14 PM
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Columbia 300 is going to start make Lane 1. BUT they will still be expensive.
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So what, dont buy one
and for the record no one from lane 1 has said what is being insinuated
Post by: Brickguy221 on August 15, 2006, 09:23:48 PM
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I'd hate to put words into Joe's mouth, but I bet I can figure it out... Lane 1 is re-releasing the Blueberry.
Wish they would.....Emerald too with the original cover and core.
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Post by: Charles on August 16, 2006, 07:24:34 AM
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Post by: triggerman on August 16, 2006, 07:25:50 AM
Post by: charlest on August 16, 2006, 08:23:28 AM
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I'd hate to put words into Joe's mouth, but I bet I can figure it out... Lane 1 is re-releasing the Blueberry.
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If they re-release the Blueberry, though they probably won't call it that, with a Columbia Solid Super-Flex cover, it WILL be a winner!
That ball I would buy in a New York minute!!
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Post by: Joe Jr on August 18, 2006, 09:02:18 PM
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Post by: Saw Mill on August 18, 2006, 09:20:39 PM
Dave
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Post by: Doug Sterner on August 18, 2006, 09:57:45 PM
Are they testing the waters? Of course they are....why not try to see if they can improve their product by utililzing a different company's coverstock?
If they had a ball or 2 made by Columbia for test purposes so what? I bet they had some testers made by Ebonite/Hammer and Storm too.
Was this big of a stink made when Mo chose to go to Brunswick from Columbia? Then why's it such a big deal for lane 1?
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Post by: a_ak57 on August 19, 2006, 12:01:10 AM
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Post by: a_ak57 on August 19, 2006, 12:06:07 AM
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Post by: Doug Sterner on August 19, 2006, 09:16:43 AM
Chris you obviously have no clue what it costs to run a pro shop.
First off if a pro shop charges $40 over cost for a bowling ball that $40 isn't pure "put the money in your pocket and go buy a beer" profit. You are also assuming that with your $40 per ball, 2 balls per hour scenario that the shop is doing that continuously. If the shop is drilling 16 balls per day (2 per hour, open 8 hours) then they are doiung a high enough volume that it could be possible and they are that busy because they are in a good area. What about the shops that only generate 5-6 balls sales per week due to financially depressed population or low lineage or lots of competition? $40 per ball won't pay the electric bill.
The costs of insurance, rent, maintenance, utilities far outweigh what most places would collect at marking up a ball $40 including drilling. In my area that pro shop would be gone and out of business within 1/2 a season.
A quality pro shop SHOULD make $50-$75 on a ball for their time and expertise.
There is no such thing as overpriced when the quality is top notch. People will pay for quality and the person who can duplicate spans and pitches as well as guarantee the bowler that his purchase is the right one for him and is willing to stand behind is providing quality service.
A perfect example here is in the automotive repair industry....in the automotive industry you have guys who will work for $15 per hour but all they know is how to change out parts until the problem is fixed. A true technician who can diagnose the problem will cost more per hour but you are going to have the problem fixed with a guarantee...it's right or they'll make it right. So the $15 hack makes his money on the extra parts he puttin on with a 75% mark up or you can pay the extra per hour for the guy who knows what's going on and spend less on your parts bill. Why does the technician cost more per hour? Better tools and more knowledge allow him to get the job done faster and more efficiently. Most likely the technician is also insured as well so if you have any problems he is insured and you'll be compensated if there's an issue.
Plain and simple....pay for quality with a guarantee once or pay less and take your chances.
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Post by: T-GOD on August 19, 2006, 02:33:49 PM
Yes, he has a job, but he's working his but off, under cutting everyone else, because he's new in order to get customers. They're basically cheap customers so in the long run, he'll NEVER MAKE ANY REAL MONEY..!! Why, because he will be stuck there in the shop 6 days a week, doing all the work himself, because he can't afford to have anyone work for him.
Believe me, it'll all catch up to him..!! =:^D
Post by: Strider on August 19, 2006, 04:13:38 PM
It is expensive to open and maintain a pro shop. Nothing is cheap and there is no Wal Mart to buy the things they need. Things break down and they don't get a budget to buy/repair things from. Most don't make much off of their equipment and supplies, so a majority of their income comes from their labor. I want my (good) proshop operator to make a good living, not merely survive month to month. I want him to be around for years and years. The good guys have so many intangible benefits. A lot of people are capable of dropping three holes in a ball with roughly the same span and pitches. The ones that are head and shoulders above those guys deserve better than just scraping by.
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Post by: Xfest on August 19, 2006, 04:23:36 PM
My driller makes it 40$ a ball if you buy it from him, and his prices are about 20$ up on the ball - so say a BVP Ambush is 99.99$ he is selling it for 125$, so roughly 25$ upchare on the ball. He does this because it makes more profit for the company, and more cash in his pocket.
He charges 50$ for an outside contained ball, so say you got it off of the internet, its 50$ for him to drill it. This is minus all the grips/plugs and whatever else there is. I think 50$ is a great price for his work, because he is so in tuned to what he is doing, and so good at doing it, that he's a keeper.
I would guess not to judge a book by its cover.
and since you are saying that this guy is only charging 20-30$ for drilling, and has only one year in experience, i would say good luck. I would rather pay for someone's experience and expertise in the subject, than a cheap rookie.
its just like in the real world, you pay for the service and the guarantee, instead of the cheapness and quickness.
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Post by: novawagonmaster on August 19, 2006, 10:37:09 PM
That's like telling me I should not sell a customer the tires I am mounting/balancing/installing on his car. A big part of a qualified advisor's service is helping the customer chose a product that will suit his needs. A good driller can do the same for his customer. Let's face it...we do more research than the average bowler. Most other folks rely on recommendations for equipment.
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Post by: Doug Sterner on August 19, 2006, 11:08:33 PM
digital pitch machine...assuming you mean digital milling machine...they run $5000. At $30 per ball that would take 170 balls drilled to pay for the machine. Then lets look at drill bits...$30 each times a good set is 30 bits....$900 so there's another 30 balls you have to drill to pay for the bits. A quality scale from Kauffman...$900. There's 30 more balls. So you need to drill 230 balls at $30 per ball to pay for the 3 big ticket items needed to drill balls. Now that is assuming you put every single penny you make off the balls into paying for the hardware.
As any person on here will tell you anybody can put 3 holes into a bowling ball. There are plenty of hacks out there that call themselves pro shops but couldn't make a ball fit if their lives depended on it. It takes some time and effort to do it right.
Let's talk layouts...you are too young to remember the good old days when you had a label and you simply shifted that label toward the fingers for finger weight to make the ball go longer or shift it outside the grip to make the ball hook more. The Black Hammer and Black Angle sure were easy to drill...such is not the case today.
A quality pro shop operator will be a student of the game and will not be afraid to study up on the sciences of physics and motion dynamics. Revolutions I and II are must haves to help understand the motion of a bowling ball. Mo Pinel has taught us all that the pin to PAP distance is important but also the distance the pin is above the midline also matters a lot.
Without the knowledge of the up to date and up and coming information the driller is just guessing. This is especially problematic when the customer has not bought a ball since the days of the Beast or Purple Rhino Pro.
In short it tkaes way more to drill a ball than people think and it takes way more to run a successful pro shop than most people think.
I'll say it again...people who know will pay for quality and knowledgeable service. When in business for yourself you should charge what you feel you are worth.
The old adage you get what you pay for rings true here again....
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Owego, NY
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Post by: RSalas on August 19, 2006, 11:17:40 PM
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Post by: Xfest on August 20, 2006, 01:12:00 AM
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Track Machine (Medium)
Lanemasters The Buzz (Medium)
Dyno-Thane Vendetta Pearl (Medium-Light)
Brunswick Original Inferno Pro-Am Remake (Light - Medium)
Track Desert Heat (Light)
Brunswick BVP Ambush (Spare)
I throw it all, just give me a ball, I'll throw it. =]
Post by: ramimac on August 20, 2006, 11:20:45 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on August 20, 2006, 12:13:13 PM
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That ball I would buy in a New York minute!!
Jeff,
What's the difference ina New York minute and a New Jersey minute?
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Post by: charlest on August 20, 2006, 01:09:41 PM
quote:quote:
That ball I would buy in a New York minute!!
Jeff,
What's the difference ina New York minute and a New Jersey minute?
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I wouldn't admit to a NJ minute ....
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Post by: ramimac on August 20, 2006, 02:25:42 PM
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Post by: J_Mac on August 20, 2006, 02:33:05 PM
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So someone i know having Beers with Richie is crap huh?
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Ever heard of something called misinformation? It's a good way for those in charge to figure out where the leaks are in their organization.
I heard a rumor locally about the Wizard from Brunswick and I've kept it to myself because quite frankly I think the guy that told me just wanted to catch me running my mouth on here.
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Post by: Joe Jr on August 20, 2006, 08:09:18 PM
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Hasnt Lane #1 always poured their own cores and then sent them to brunswick? Maybe its cheaper for Lane #1 to let columbia pour their cores for them and send them to brunswick.
This post has nothing to do with cores...
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Post by: Charles on August 20, 2006, 08:12:39 PM
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Post by: monstercrank on August 20, 2006, 08:19:54 PM
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Too many people smoking some potent reefer and believing in Pink Elephants!!!
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are you saying you dont think it will happen? i saw a lane #1 rep, to remain unnamed, checking out the covers on the c300 balls in the shop, now im not saying thats proof, and i wouldnt have thought anything of it but this thread poped in my mind and they seemed related. i didint ask him about it because i respect him enough to not try and pry info out of him, he tells me some things i find interesting every now and then, and i keep my mouth shut till its public out of his trust to me to do so. but i havent honestly heard either way from him, altho my driller is 100% sure of the switch, he said he talked to his big B rep and he confirmed it... alto this probably means nothing to you lol
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Post by: Joe Jr on August 20, 2006, 09:45:23 PM
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Post by: Joe Jr on August 20, 2006, 09:59:27 PM
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Post by: Doug Sterner on August 21, 2006, 08:18:50 AM
All of the Brunswick fans that have been touting the popularity of Lane 1 balls as being due to the "excellent Brunswick coverstocks" will have to eat some serious crow.
We are of course speculating since both the head sales rep and owner of Lane 1 have both told me they have no intention of jumping ship yet but then again you never know....
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Owego, NY
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Post by: 302efi on August 21, 2006, 12:39:14 PM
Now maybe Lane #1...
This in not a good thing...
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Post by: Slopsurprise on August 21, 2006, 06:26:37 PM
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The real problem lies in the fact Pro Shops are out to make a killing. There is no reason drilling a ball should cost $40 or more to drill! That's horrible.
If a pro shop knows its customer, it should take about 10 mins to talk about a layout and lay the ball out, 10 mins to drill it and another 5 or so to make sure the customer likes it and such. So in another word, a Pro Shop could do 2 balls an hour, if not more.. so that's $80/hour.. minue the grips that cost $4 a set, and the slug that costs $4 or so... and the little things such as energy and all. Overall.. ridiculous.
If bowling balls end up over $300.. blaim the Pro Shop that wants to make a huge profit, not the manufacturer.
-Chris
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You have NEVER ran your own business before have you??? You should try it sometime. I bet you will wake up really fast!
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Post by: monstercrank on August 21, 2006, 06:54:00 PM
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If a pro shop knows its customer, it should take about 10 mins to talk about a layout and lay the ball out, 10 mins to drill it and another 5 or so to make sure the customer likes it and such. So in another word, a Pro Shop could do 2 balls an hour, if not more.. so that's $80/hour.. minue the grips that cost $4 a set, and the slug that costs $4 or so... and the little things such as energy and all. Overall.. ridiculous.
If bowling balls end up over $300.. blaim the Pro Shop that wants to make a huge profit, not the manufacturer.
then where do proshops make there $$, you really have no idea what your talking about. my proshops prices are set at 194 drilled, plus tax for a high end. he makes 25 tops on a ball, EVERYTHING that keeps a proshop open is the drilling. do you honestly think a proshop could afford to keep the shop in stock, pay rent and buy materials, AND pay the employes on 25 bucks a ball? a good shop week is maby 12-15 balls. thats not gonna keep you in buissness. he had to lower his prices a LARGE ammount to make it so there was no point to buy online. but you figure, for a big one, 130, plus shipping say 15, plus drilling, most are around 50 with grips and a slug(or more) so your at 195. your only paying tax on 50 bucks, so in the long run its like 5 bucks more to get from my shop, why wouldnt you, if you trying to save 5 freakin bucks then you shouldnt be buying bowlingballs. so thats the proshop story, and the ball price, online they sell for like 50 more than everything else, so how could you possibly blame it on a shop? there fighting to stay in buissness with these super closeout sellers online...
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Post by: Retroman on August 21, 2006, 07:53:08 PM
When you work for somebody else and you are done your day of work most people leave it behind and go home to there other life, When you own your own company, It becomes your life, 24-7
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Post by: CORDOG on August 27, 2006, 07:10:47 AM
there were other factors tha went into Mo leaving Columbia, like some patent laws being broken
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Post by: Doug Sterner on August 27, 2006, 10:24:38 AM
Your opinion is shared by most of us who have experienced the real world...
[sarcasm on]The old adage still holds true...Businessmen hire yourselves some teenagers while they stioll know everything ![sarcasm off]
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Doug's Pro Shop
Owego, NY
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Lane 1 Buzzsaw...The Official Power Tool Of Bowling
Post by: JessN16 on August 28, 2006, 12:37:29 AM
Ever since the move south of the border, there have been production issues down there. Too much time spent pouring balls; factory isn't nearly as efficient as what they had in the U.S.
So if you're Brunswick, what's the first thing you kick to the curb if you can't get your own stuff out the door fast enough to meet demand? Your vendor balls, of course.
Back in December 2005, I went to order a MoRich Total Shock & Awe. I either ordered it the last week of December or the first couple of weeks of January, I can't remember which. Placed my order with an online store. Late January, nothing -- no shipping numbers, anything like that. So I call them. Turns out there's a six-week backlog on MoRich TS&As. That puts ship-out sometime in early March, but the lady said to call back in a week and see if things had changed.
So I call back a week later, and yep, they'd changed -- to April. I asked for a refund and got it.
About this same time, my local pro shop started having problems getting the new Inferno balls. Their distributor was trying to stall them but wasn't giving them a clear answer. They later found out it was related to production issues.
That's the same thing that drove DynoThane from Storm to Columbia. If Columbia has the ability to deliver a good product in a timely fashion, it's not a surprise that Lane #1 would listen.
Jess
Post by: Astroman on September 17, 2006, 03:38:14 AM
The solid Cobalt is a C300 cover, I heard it from my ball driller who is friends with Richie and Chuck. This is FACT.
I watched Chuck throw a Storm test ball a few years ago that had I think a Uranium core. First time I actually saw him stand right. He and Richie said the covers weren't what they were looking for.
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Post by: Doug Sterner on September 17, 2006, 07:23:17 AM
I know this for a fact due to an in I have with Brunswick. I know they were poured and shipped from Muskegon.
The next ball will be a C-300 coverstock and from what the initial testing has shown, the ball will be awesome...both in terms of looks and performance. Something completely different...it's going to be awesome...
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Doug's Pro Shop
Owego, NY
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www.dougsproshop.net
Lane 1 Buzzsaw...The Official Power Tool Of Bowling
Post by: kmanestor22 on September 17, 2006, 09:40:27 PM
quote:quote:
Will the buzzsaws be so great when Brunswick covers aren't utilized?.....
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Formerly Richard Cranium
www.Brunswickbowling.com
www.Brunswickinsiders.com
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99.9% of how well a ball works is the person throwing it..
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Keep looking... I'm sure there's a 300 in one of those balls you keep buying!!
No, most of it is THS.
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Post by: Doug Sterner on September 18, 2006, 11:13:48 AM
"It's not so much what's in your hand as it is what's in your head that will make you a better bowler."
True nuff???
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Doug's Pro Shop
Owego, NY
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www.dougsproshop.net
Lane 1 Buzzsaw...The Official Power Tool Of Bowling
Post by: Retroman on September 18, 2006, 12:23:13 PM
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I agree with the Inverted 1 here. In fact I have a poster on my wall in the shop that states one of the most true statements regarding bowling I have ever spoken. I am sure someone else has said it in the past so I am not taking credit for it but nonetheless it holds true...
"It's not so much what's in your hand as it is what's in your head that will make you a better bowler."
True nuff???
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Doug's Pro Shop
Owego, NY
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www.dougsproshop.net
Lane 1 Buzzsaw...The Official Power Tool Of Bowling
And that is a fact!!
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