Post by: bowler851 on March 29, 2011, 12:38:22 PM
Post by: icefiction on March 29, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
Post by: mezzagain on March 29, 2011, 11:59:06 PM
Over-priced and over-hyped by the Lane# 1 shills selling stuff out of there garage/ pro shop to make a few pennies.
Should have bought a Utah ball !
mezzagain a.k.a. the mezz
Edited by mezzagain on 3/30/2011 at 0:05 AM
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on March 30, 2011, 04:48:49 AM
Lane #1 balls are poured by 900g. 900g balls tend to have thinner shells than most from what I have seen. Some amount of filler between the core and cover is necessary to get the RG below 2.55 or so, how much varies from core to core and manufacturer to manufacturer.
Post by: Nails on March 30, 2011, 05:06:23 AM
I hate to say it, but in my eyes, Global 900 might be becoming the new Ebonite as far as cover inconsistency goes. With Ebonite, it was about performance. Some would hook like gang busters and revive well, some were just never as reactive and once they were done, they were done. With Global, their problem seems to be with cover thickness and cracking. I had one very thin cover (cracked and replaced), have seen a few other thin covers, and have seen many more than average crack The good ones are good, but more bad eggs than I want to take a chance on.
Telling it like it is.
Post by: bowler851 on March 30, 2011, 07:02:49 AM
So are you all saying cover thickness can very from ball to ball and if so what is the thickness of other BoomRangs out there please post. I am now curious because all my storm covers are over 5/8 of an inch and my boom is less than a 1/4".
Post by: triggerman on March 30, 2011, 07:41:28 AM
welcome back Mezz
have you priced them lately as compared to Ebo internaional and storm stuff
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Post by: zeusjr on March 30, 2011, 03:18:36 PM
Mine is between 3/8 and 7/16" thick. It is normal for 900G poured balls to be a little thinner then Storm, but yours seems a little thin...
I'm not gonna speak for yours since if what your saying is correct it does sound thin, but as far as mine I wouldn't worry about it being a little thinner then Storms stuff because Lane#1 stands behind their stuff better then anyone else.
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Post by: bowler851 on March 30, 2011, 04:03:18 PM
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 30, 2011, 06:04:28 PM
Bigger cores will do that from time to time on any bowling ball. It will also vary some from one side of the ball to the next. Nothing I would worry about. I don't throw lane one but have seen it with many different brands.
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: JessN16 on March 30, 2011, 06:07:23 PM
I've had one 900Global-poured ball crack (Lane #1 Dynamo X2). I've lost four Storm balls in the last 16 months (Paradigm, Attitude Shift, Thunderstruck Pearl, Dark Thunder).
On average, I cannot tell a noticeable difference in surface thickness between my Storm, 900Global or Ebonite products.
Jess
Post by: 302efi on March 30, 2011, 11:56:56 PM
Had to post this pic of My old Storm poured Epic Saga....Roto ignored my requests to replace it as well..
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.
Post by: ecc0_9879 on March 31, 2011, 12:15:04 AM
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Post by: zeusjr on April 01, 2011, 04:54:28 PM
Anything is possible, but I bowl about 9 games a week and take care of my stuff religiously and have yet to have one die..
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Post by: notsohotshot on April 01, 2011, 10:16:58 PM
I have seen a learge amount of Storm tropicals crack lately. Why?
Post by: mainzer on April 01, 2011, 10:42:15 PM
All in all it is fair to say that every companys gear cracks/dies somewhat these days. I dont know if cover thickness makes a huge difference or not but I can tell you I havent had any of my Seismic stuff die on me. I had a Epicenter Crack due to my own stupidity in. IMO 900's product any product is just as good as Storms and Ebonites products and affilitates/subsidies.
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Post by: AllAirForceTwice on April 04, 2011, 08:49:40 AM
Anyone like the thick covers on the Storm "Agent" balls? I swear my S.A. cover was at least 1 inch thick... Sorry to hyjack this thread but I was not the first one! LOL
Edited by AllAirForceTwice on 4/4/2011 at 8:50 AM
Post by: scotts33 on April 04, 2011, 09:25:18 AM
Then, you have never drilled most LM/L or Visionary equipment....the majority of them have very thick covers.
Scott
Post by: triggerman on April 04, 2011, 09:52:49 AM
as someone stated earlier all companies have cracking issues today as they try and take cost out of the balls, I am at my distribs most every day and the amount of balls returned with cracking issues is crazy I see alot of cracks brought on by drillers, IE dull bits, pushing too hard, no bevel, but the number of balls cracked in half is crazy now. I dont see alot from my lane 1 stuff but have had a couple crack on me over the past several years as well. I have one guy that his crack continually (his release i presume puts the ball down right on the bridge) my fix? his bridge is now a tad wider to accomodate this, will see if it helps him out
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Post by: killpins on April 05, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
Post by: pedal2themedal on April 22, 2011, 11:58:24 PM
Im up to 10 lane 1's and the covers are all over 1/2 inch thick as well. You might try to get ahold of lane one just to check there warranty on stuff like that.
Post by: tommyshotmakers on April 28, 2011, 09:39:46 PM
I have noticed the shells being thinner. However i have had few problems with saturation unlike I've seen with Ebonite products. Storm products currently have thickest shells from the major lables and VBP still does encapsulated balls so no filler in them. I wish Lane #1 would produce there product in house, because they fall to the mercy of thet factory. When Columbia was pouring the G-Force line I found poor quality control and mismarked mass bias.
Post by: triggerman on April 29, 2011, 08:35:51 AM
thinnest cover I have seen thus far is on an AMF sideways I just took in, litteraly 1/4" at its thickest
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Post by: Juggernaut on April 29, 2011, 08:45:52 AM
I had one (SIDEWAYS) that had the same thing, and yes, it cracked. Good thing was, Eric and the guys in San Antonio warranteed it with no problems.
I really don't know what's going on, but seems that quite a bit of the stuff coming out of S.A. has been on the thin shell side. Or at least it seems that I've been hearing about an odd amount of them.
Post by: triggerman on April 29, 2011, 10:42:18 AM
this one has a cracked bridge, but i got it used so i am not worried about it right now, will just plg the fingers and fix the crack, but I was amazed at how thin that cover was
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Post by: Inverted 1 on May 03, 2011, 04:29:25 PM
It all make sense..
Thinnest shells on bowling balls due to the fact that the bowlers that use them have the thinnest skin
Post by: tommyboy74 on May 03, 2011, 04:33:47 PM
We can also include the Roto Grip Nomad solid/pearl or Dagger hybrid. Those are just cover and core without any filler material.
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Post by: Doug Sterner on May 03, 2011, 06:23:31 PM
The reason the covers are so thin is because the cores weight 7-8 pounds now. If you were to pour the rest of the ball with just coverstock, the ball would weight 20 pounds! The low density filler is needed to take up the space while not adding much to the weight.
If we all would go back to the good old days of core and cover ( like the Turbos and Hammers and U-2's) then this would be a moot point. I don't ever remember an old Hammer ball cracking.....Turbo X's and XL's had core separation issues but that's another story.
Let's go away from the new super cores that make the new super covers flare 2,000 times and suck every last bit of oil off the lanes. Rhino Pros, Hammers, Turbos, U-2's, Beasts......the cores in those balls were plenty strong. Let's add in the new super covers and you have a winning combo in my mind.
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