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golfnutFL

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Time Bomb vs Time Bomb Black Fire
« on: November 18, 2010, 12:11:01 PM »
Interesting numbers to compare these balls.

Lane #1 has the TBBF at 120/125 with 95% backend, 5+" of flare and a diff of .055

Lane #1 has the TB at 115/125 with 95% backend, 5+" of flare and a diff of .055

Lane #1 seems to have the TBBF as a slightly stronger OOB ball.

BTM paints a much different picture. The TB has considerably more overall hook and is best on heavier patterns. The TBBF has a good amount less overall hook and is much better on medium patterns. BTM considers the TBBF the ball in between the TB and the Pink Panther.

Strange....why would Lane #1 be presenting the TBBF as a stronger ball than the TB? What would the motivation be if BTM is correct? I'm very interested now to compare my coming TBBF to my TB to see who is being more honest in their appraisal. I will leave both OOB and drill them the same to see.

Anyone with seed balls care to comment on what they are seeing as to the differences between the two balls?
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Re: Time Bomb vs Time Bomb Black Fire
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2010, 08:23:46 PM »
I think BTM is correct, if you're using the OOB surface. The Time Bomb at 2000 is earlier and overall a little stronger than the Black Fire. Sand that same Black Fire to 2000 though, whole different story. Honestly I think both balls overlap a little bit, but could compliment eachother well with very different drillings and/or surface adjustments.
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Re: Time Bomb vs Time Bomb Black Fire
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2010, 01:31:01 PM »
I realize the Black Fire is polished...any idea what is the underlying abralon/grit of the cover?

Edited on 11/19/2010 2:31 PM
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tywithay

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Re: Time Bomb vs Time Bomb Black Fire
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2010, 04:13:48 PM »
They used the 6421 process, 60 micron, 40 micron, 20 micron, and 10 micron, then compound over that to polish it. Kind of a long process. I'm not sure what that equals out to, or would be similar to, in abralon grit. I'll try to find out though.
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Re: Time Bomb vs Time Bomb Black Fire
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 04:57:20 PM »
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I think BTM is correct, if you're using the OOB surface. The Time Bomb at 2000 is earlier and overall a little stronger than the Black Fire. Sand that same Black Fire to 2000 though, whole different story.


I agree.  In OoB form my BF overlapped my original TB, so I took the surface to 2000 to match the surface on the TB and it made the ball react sooner and handle more oil then the TB. But IMO with equal drilling paterns the BF would get more length and be smoother then the TB.
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Re: Time Bomb vs Time Bomb Black Fire
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2010, 05:21:25 PM »
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They used the 6421 process, 60 micron, 40 micron, 20 micron, and 10 micron, then compound over that to polish it.  


Wow, that's great information. Thanks. I had no idea that '6421' was code for the micron grits being used.

I regularly use the 35 micon CAB pad on my SCB, and that's creats a very dull finish. I would imagine going 35 micron then 10 micron (the pads I have), followed by a good polish like Snake Oil would produce a close to NIB finish.
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golfnutFL

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Re: Time Bomb vs Time Bomb Black Fire
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2010, 09:12:56 PM »
Any idea how that translates to Abralon/readily available polishes?


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They used the 6421 process, 60 micron, 40 micron, 20 micron, and 10 micron, then compound over that to polish it. Kind of a long process. I'm not sure what that equals out to, or would be similar to, in abralon grit. I'll try to find out though.
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Re: Time Bomb vs Time Bomb Black Fire
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2010, 08:13:38 AM »
charlest made some information on this available a while back:

http://www.bowling-info.com/index.php?template=Ball%20Maintenance

It looks like the closest Abralon combination would be 320-500-1000 followed by your favorite polish.

I'll probably e-mail Lane#1 for more specific information. This "6421" process is used for the Pink Panther as well. I'm only aware of Trizact for the micron grits, and I can't find any pads available other than 35 micron (360 grit) and 10 micron (1100 grit). There must be some other abrasives out there for different micron grits that I'm not aware of.
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