Author Topic: Trying a Saw (Read 3770 times)

Jeffrevs · « **on:** December 01, 2003, 08:35:49 PM »

Hi Buzzheads,...

You've seen me on the boards here...you've seen me very neutral to Lane 1. Not sure I'm on board with all the hype, but I've never tried one either....well, my time has come ! I've acquired 2 pieces on trade and want opinions on each.

Pro Purple
Silver Diamond

What conditions do these balls fit best, your thoughts on them and the drills you have / used ?

Where can I find the specs on the Ppurple ??

Thanks......
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JEFF

charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** December 02, 2003, 11:57:29 AM »

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Hi Buzzheads,...

You've seen me on the boards here...you've seen me very neutral to Lane 1. Not sure I'm on board with all the hype, but I've never tried one either....well, my time has come ! I've acquired 2 pieces on trade and want opinions on each.

What conditions do these balls fit best, your thoughts on them and the drills you have / used ?

Pro Purple - anything from medium light to medium heavy oil. Drill it very average/normal - 3-4" pin to PAP distance, do not put pin above bridge, do not swing CG out too far in either direction. Keeping up the cerium trizact finish is the only way to go but only every 50-80 games. Do NOT polish it with regular polishes; Do NOT sandpaper it. It will last 500-600 games, maybe more. It will never flip, but can play almost any condition anywhere. I even got great results going up the boards on true heavy oil.

I have no proof but I have used a Riot Zone at the same time as my Pro Purple. I strongly suspect they are the same cover - Brunswick's 2.0 proactive, best, longest lasting, least oil absorbing proactive cover EVER made, by any manufacturer, bar none.

Silver Diamond - medium-light to medium is its forte, easy natural length with moderate to strong backend with decent rev release. Surface can be sanded and polished to any degree to suit whatever you like. It is PowerKoil (AKA Porkroll) 18 coverstock, pearlized. Not a lot of flare, so don't move pin too far, I'd guess 2.5" to 4.5" is the most you'd want to go. Put pin over the bridge ONLY if you want severe length or your have VERY high track PLUS very slow speed.

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Where can I find the specs on the Ppurple ??

on the Lane#1 website, of course.
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."

Edited on 12/2/2003 12:58 PM

Jeffrevs · « **Reply #2 on:** December 02, 2003, 12:00:15 PM »

thanks charlest, message sent...
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JEFF

Jeffrevs · « **Reply #3 on:** December 02, 2003, 12:39:12 PM »

You're kidding....all these Buzzheads here and one response ?? I thought they'd come out of the woodwork trying to convert someone like a Jehovahs Witness

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JEFF

seadrive · « **Reply #4 on:** December 02, 2003, 12:52:46 PM »

Jeff, it's difficult for mere mortals to compete with charlest.

(gd&rvvvf from charlest)

I have a Pro Purple... well, come to think of it, I own a Pro Purple, but I don't have a Pro Purple, 'cause the pro shop guy has been holding it hostage for almost a month now!

Maybe now that the first trimester of the season is over, he'll give it back to me.

Sorry about that... anyway, I own a Pro Purple, but I can't tell you anything about it that charlest didn't already cover. A smooth rolling, early-revving ball that can cover medium-light to medium-oily.

charlest, what do you mean when you say "Do NOT polish it with regular polishes." What do you use to polish yours? Something like Renew-It?
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seadrive
Cogito ergo bowl

Jeffrevs · « **Reply #5 on:** December 02, 2003, 01:26:35 PM »

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Jeff, it's difficult for mere mortals to compete with Charlest.

that's great,....2 people post the same thing. See, that's why I nick-named charlest the "owl"! Because he's the "wise one !"

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JEFF

botelerc · « **Reply #6 on:** December 02, 2003, 01:39:03 PM »

I have had both of them in the past. I didn't really like either one. Both were OK, but didn't fall in love with either. The silver diamond to me, the way it was drilled, didn't get enough length and was too angular. It was too close to my pearl carbide bomb. The Pro Pruple, I liked the roll, but it left too many 10 pins. I could never get it to carry the ten, no matter what angle. The Buzzsaws that I love. The Super Carbibe, great for heavy, nice early roll with a good arc. and My favorite, the Cherry Bomb. Love it. Didn't think I could like any SAW more than my Pearl Carbide Bomb, but I now have one to take its place.

Silky-C
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What can I say, I'm from the south! I know how to work a SAW

A_P_K · « **Reply #7 on:** December 02, 2003, 01:40:29 PM »

Yeah....

That Super Carbide if drilled correctly is a monster on the lanes and at the pin curtain too...

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"It is Origin...the pure embodiment of power!"

Pin_Krusher IS a serious threat to modern day bowling wood as we know it today.

charlest · « **Reply #8 on:** December 02, 2003, 04:03:14 PM »

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I have had both of them in the past. I didn't really like either one. Both were OK, but didn't fall in love with either. ... The Pro Pruple, I liked the roll, but it left too many 10 pins. I could never get it to carry the ten, no matter what angle. ... Silky-C
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The Pro Purple, for me, had slightly less than average carry power, but the beautiful thing about it was that whenever there was some strange condition or I was not executing quite right, I could always get to the pocket with this ball. It worked best, for me, when the lane had slightly more than medium oil, up to medium heavy oil. The more oil there was, the better it worked, in general, but it also did work all the way down to medium-light.

For me it was the ultimate control ball; My Bolt Pro is the next step down in control, but just barely.
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."

charlest · « **Reply #9 on:** December 02, 2003, 04:10:32 PM »

seadrive wrote:

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(gd&rvvvf from charlest)

Excuse me, what does the above mean in English?

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charlest, what do you mean when you say "Do NOT polish it with regular polishes." What do you use to polish yours? Something like Renew-It?
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Absolutely nothing. WIth Brunswick proactives, I have learned for me the only thing necessary to adjust the surface or to re-surface the surface of a Brunswick Proactive version 2.0 ball was a CAB and the 4 version of the trizact: blue, grren, orange and the white cerium oxide, which is the finish on the Pro Purple and the Riot Zone. Nothing works as well. Sandpaper will ONLY modify the resin base, NOT the proactive particles. Besides the cerium trizact puts a very nice shine on the ball. I have tried them, both balls at the lower grits and they do exactly and precisely what they were designed to do.

For my money anything else is not just not smart, it's lazy and cheap. The pads last a long time, as the cover wears like iron. You rarely have to do anything to them.
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."

T-GOD · « **Reply #10 on:** December 02, 2003, 04:39:11 PM »

Jeff, Charlest is right on with his comments. The Pro Purple is a very smooth rolling ball that will work on most conditions, except for the extremes. This was the first ball out of my bag.

The Silver Diamond is much stronger off the dry. It will go longer in the oil and be more angular off the dry. Pin over the bridge and CG kicked out seems to work well with the Silver to help smooth things out a bit. =:^D

scottie · « **Reply #11 on:** December 02, 2003, 04:54:36 PM »

i would buy a silver now as you can still buy them new.they are about to be discontinued so move fast-great ball as is the purple pro!

seadrive · « **Reply #12 on:** December 03, 2003, 08:36:47 AM »

charlest,

gd&rvvvf = grinning, ducking & running very, very, very (insert as many of these as you want) fast. Sometimes I miss the old days of CompuServe and 2400 baud modems...

Thanks for the advice on the trizact. I don't know if the guy who runs the local (very small) pro shop even has trizact pads; I'll have to ask.
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seadrive
Cogito ergo bowl

charlest · « **Reply #13 on:** December 03, 2003, 11:13:46 AM »

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charlest,

gd&rvvvf = grinning, ducking & running very, very, very (insert as many of these as you want) fast.

Cute!

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Sometimes I miss the old days of CompuServe and 2400 baud modems...

Old days? Naaaah! The old days were 300 baud dial-up and teletypes.

I did all my undergraduate programs on that. Talk about frustration!
And blue ink on white waxy paper specific to those machines.
2400 baud was downright bliss!

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Thanks for the advice on the trizact. I don't know if the guy who runs the local (very small) pro shop even has trizact pads; I'll have to ask.

I got mine from Innovative Bowling: 1 CAB and a 3-5 piece each of the trizacts made for them. (Assume you have a spinner.)
See http://www.innovativebowling.com/
Got to their ordering form or call them directly; real nice people.
When I ordered a few years ago, trizact wasn't even on their website.

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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."

Edited on 12/3/2003 12:13 PM

Buzzhead · « **Reply #14 on:** December 08, 2003, 06:14:17 AM »

Jeff any progress reports yet with the
SAWS~~~?

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Saws are made to cut ANYTHING including 10 pins

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