Post by: Jeffrevs on December 01, 2003, 08:35:49 PM
You've seen me on the boards here...you've seen me very neutral to Lane 1. Not sure I'm on board with all the hype, but I've never tried one either....well, my time has come ! I've acquired 2 pieces on trade and want opinions on each.
Pro Purple
Silver Diamond
What conditions do these balls fit best, your thoughts on them and the drills you have / used ?
Where can I find the specs on the Ppurple ??
Thanks......
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JEFF
Post by: charlest on December 02, 2003, 11:57:29 AM
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Hi Buzzheads,...
You've seen me on the boards here...you've seen me very neutral to Lane 1. Not sure I'm on board with all the hype, but I've never tried one either....well, my time has come ! I've acquired 2 pieces on trade and want opinions on each.
What conditions do these balls fit best, your thoughts on them and the drills you have / used ?
Pro Purple - anything from medium light to medium heavy oil. Drill it very average/normal - 3-4" pin to PAP distance, do not put pin above bridge, do not swing CG out too far in either direction. Keeping up the cerium trizact finish is the only way to go but only every 50-80 games. Do NOT polish it with regular polishes; Do NOT sandpaper it. It will last 500-600 games, maybe more. It will never flip, but can play almost any condition anywhere. I even got great results going up the boards on true heavy oil.
I have no proof but I have used a Riot Zone at the same time as my Pro Purple. I strongly suspect they are the same cover - Brunswick's 2.0 proactive, best, longest lasting, least oil absorbing proactive cover EVER made, by any manufacturer, bar none.
Silver Diamond - medium-light to medium is its forte, easy natural length with moderate to strong backend with decent rev release. Surface can be sanded and polished to any degree to suit whatever you like. It is PowerKoil (AKA Porkroll) 18 coverstock, pearlized. Not a lot of flare, so don't move pin too far, I'd guess 2.5" to 4.5" is the most you'd want to go. Put pin over the bridge ONLY if you want severe length or your have VERY high track PLUS very slow speed.
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Where can I find the specs on the Ppurple ??
on the Lane#1 website, of course.
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."
Edited on 12/2/2003 12:58 PM
Post by: Jeffrevs on December 02, 2003, 12:00:15 PM
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JEFF
Post by: Jeffrevs on December 02, 2003, 12:39:12 PM
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JEFF
Post by: seadrive on December 02, 2003, 12:52:46 PM
(gd&rvvvf from charlest)
I have a Pro Purple... well, come to think of it, I own a Pro Purple, but I don't have a Pro Purple, 'cause the pro shop guy has been holding it hostage for almost a month now!
Maybe now that the first trimester of the season is over, he'll give it back to me.Sorry about that... anyway, I own a Pro Purple, but I can't tell you anything about it that charlest didn't already cover. A smooth rolling, early-revving ball that can cover medium-light to medium-oily.
charlest, what do you mean when you say "Do NOT polish it with regular polishes." What do you use to polish yours? Something like Renew-It?
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seadrive
Cogito ergo bowl
Post by: Jeffrevs on December 02, 2003, 01:26:35 PM
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Jeff, it's difficult for mere mortals to compete with Charlest.
that's great,....2 people post the same thing. See, that's why I nick-named charlest the "owl"! Because he's the "wise one !"
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JEFF
Post by: botelerc on December 02, 2003, 01:39:03 PM
Silky-C
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What can I say, I'm from the south! I know how to work a SAW
Post by: A_P_K on December 02, 2003, 01:40:29 PM
That Super Carbide if drilled correctly is a monster on the lanes and at the pin curtain too...
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"It is Origin...the pure embodiment of power!"
Pin_Krusher IS a serious threat to modern day bowling wood as we know it today.
Post by: charlest on December 02, 2003, 04:03:14 PM
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I have had both of them in the past. I didn't really like either one. Both were OK, but didn't fall in love with either. ... The Pro Pruple, I liked the roll, but it left too many 10 pins. I could never get it to carry the ten, no matter what angle. ... Silky-C
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The Pro Purple, for me, had slightly less than average carry power, but the beautiful thing about it was that whenever there was some strange condition or I was not executing quite right, I could always get to the pocket with this ball. It worked best, for me, when the lane had slightly more than medium oil, up to medium heavy oil. The more oil there was, the better it worked, in general, but it also did work all the way down to medium-light.
For me it was the ultimate control ball; My Bolt Pro is the next step down in control, but just barely.
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."
Post by: charlest on December 02, 2003, 04:10:32 PM
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(gd&rvvvf from charlest)
Excuse me, what does the above mean in English?
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charlest, what do you mean when you say "Do NOT polish it with regular polishes." What do you use to polish yours? Something like Renew-It?
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Absolutely nothing. WIth Brunswick proactives, I have learned for me the only thing necessary to adjust the surface or to re-surface the surface of a Brunswick Proactive version 2.0 ball was a CAB and the 4 version of the trizact: blue, grren, orange and the white cerium oxide, which is the finish on the Pro Purple and the Riot Zone. Nothing works as well. Sandpaper will ONLY modify the resin base, NOT the proactive particles. Besides the cerium trizact puts a very nice shine on the ball. I have tried them, both balls at the lower grits and they do exactly and precisely what they were designed to do.
For my money anything else is not just not smart, it's lazy and cheap. The pads last a long time, as the cover wears like iron. You rarely have to do anything to them.
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."
Post by: T-GOD on December 02, 2003, 04:39:11 PM
The Silver Diamond is much stronger off the dry. It will go longer in the oil and be more angular off the dry. Pin over the bridge and CG kicked out seems to work well with the Silver to help smooth things out a bit. =:^D
Post by: scottie on December 02, 2003, 04:54:36 PM
Post by: seadrive on December 03, 2003, 08:36:47 AM
gd&rvvvf = grinning, ducking & running very, very, very (insert as many of these as you want) fast. Sometimes I miss the old days of CompuServe and 2400 baud modems...
Thanks for the advice on the trizact. I don't know if the guy who runs the local (very small) pro shop even has trizact pads; I'll have to ask.
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seadrive
Cogito ergo bowl
Post by: charlest on December 03, 2003, 11:13:46 AM
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charlest,
gd&rvvvf = grinning, ducking & running very, very, very (insert as many of these as you want) fast.
Cute!
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Sometimes I miss the old days of CompuServe and 2400 baud modems...
Old days? Naaaah! The old days were 300 baud dial-up and teletypes.
I did all my undergraduate programs on that. Talk about frustration!
And blue ink on white waxy paper specific to those machines.
2400 baud was downright bliss!
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Thanks for the advice on the trizact. I don't know if the guy who runs the local (very small) pro shop even has trizact pads; I'll have to ask.
I got mine from Innovative Bowling: 1 CAB and a 3-5 piece each of the trizacts made for them. (Assume you have a spinner.)
See http://www.innovativebowling.com/
Got to their ordering form or call them directly; real nice people.
When I ordered a few years ago, trizact wasn't even on their website.
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."
Edited on 12/3/2003 12:13 PM
Post by: Buzzhead on December 08, 2003, 06:14:17 AM
SAWS~~~?
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Saws are made to cut ANYTHING including 10 pins
Post by: Jeffrevs on December 08, 2003, 06:21:45 AM
By the way, last Tuesday before league, a guy from this site (Clarence...can't remember his screen name...) showed me his Silver....(he's a lefty)....I grabbed it, and the span was really close to mine,...thumb was a little big, but who cares, I asked if I could throw it, he said sure,....long and strong!! I dropped it too, & he's a lefty, so it had a negative pin on it.....really responds off the dry....
I'm looking forward to see how these balls fit my game.......more to come
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JEFF
Post by: JOE FALCO on December 08, 2003, 06:42:29 AM
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
Post by: snakes on December 08, 2003, 06:44:59 AM
I simply love my Pro Purple. Like T-god, it is virtually the 1st thing out of the bag. Mine is drilled 2.5x5 and it is religiously sanded with cerium to a nice dull shine.
It is so early and so smooth. I use it all the time in my sport league. Well, except for last week, I used the new Nugget. Not quite as early but more continuation. Back to the Pro Purple, It has saved me many times. I used to try and replace it and it always found its way back in my bag. So now it just stays there. I had a silver and with the pin over the bridge and it was really loooong and snappy. Conditional for me. It did not roll as good as my original cherry pearl, so it left.
Post by: Jeffrevs on December 08, 2003, 06:47:26 AM
I'm glad I found one....never had a control type ball. I have a Sonic X Solid which I love, but it's usually for 'lighter' oil,...so this will fit the bill!!
I hope
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JEFF