Pin under worked great on those balls. I still have (3) NIB 15's

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Take a look at how min is drilled my friend. I love this layout on this ball.

http://www.dougsproshop.net/images/MyArsenal/tsunami2.jpg

The ball still gets through the heads, reads the mids and hooks hard on the backend.

The ball is not unpredictable or condition specific like my original Tsunami was (4x4 stacked).
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thats a new one for me,lol.how does it react
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semi pin axis drilling, mine was a 2.375 pin ball, pin was 2.375 from pap on my val, cg kicked 1/2 left of pap mb ended up down by my thumb, ball is clean up front with a very smooth powerful move off the dry, when lanes are fresh shoot it up ten, when they start to go move left, ive played anywhere from up 5 to crossing 30 at the arrows to 8 at the break with that ball (it was polished too)
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My ball laid out something like 2" pin to PAP and the mass bias under the thumb was like 6". With the shorter pin to cg distance I think the cg ended up at 3" off my PAP.

I love the reaction form the ball...it cleans the heads well, reads the mids but not overly strong and has a strong but not super-snappy backend reaction.

The ball really shined on several of the PBA/Sport patterns that I found locally.

On many of the house patterns it got too jumpy for me. I altered the coverstock and it smoothed out the breakpoint considerably.

I liked the reaction so much that I stashed away another one for later on but a lot of the new stuff has been so good that I sold it last summer.

You will really like the ball. The Tsunami responds so well to hand and speed changes that it ends up being very versatile across the medium oil spectrum.
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placed the pin above the ring and kicked cg at 45 ......super smooth ,nice reaction ,no big snap,complete control....i am amazed......how would its sister ball the pearl h20 react drilled the same way ?"?
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thanks doug , grabbing a nib 15 next week
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emerald saw
enriched uranium stacked
pearl uranium
pearl carbide
xxxl starburst
h20 buzzsaw
solid uranium
bullet buzzsaw
tsunami
uranium hrg
supernova solid
chainsaw
dynamo
carbide plus
wanted single drill right hand silver diamond 15lb