Got this one out after a couple months, and took it out for practice with my Venus, knowing I was going to probably have to get rid of one, and wanted to see which one gave me the better reaction. The HRG seemed to have more kick at the backend, and the Venus was a little smoother. Thought I liked the reaction with the HRG just a bit more, so I had pretty much decided to make that one the keeper of the two, but throw one more game with it just for the heck of it. With two families on each side of me, and timing my shots for when they weren't gathered around on the approach, shot 300. Asked the father of the family on my left if he bowled a lot, and he said not really, just came down to have some fun. I grabbed my Venus and told him it was 15 pounds, enjoy the game, and had my smile for the day.