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charlest

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Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« on: November 17, 2006, 12:35:39 PM »
I was just checking out the RG and Differential of the new HRG

Uranium HRG  16 lb 15 lb 14 lb 13 lb 12 lb
RGmax:       2.582 2.583 2.583 2.611 2.649
Rgmin:       2.553 2.550 2.545 2.576 2.621
Diff:        .029   .033  .038  .036  .028


and I'll be darned if the numbers didn't remind me of the Silver Diamond. So I went and looked at them:

Buzzsaw/C Silver Diamond  16 lb 15 lb 14 lb  
RGmax:                    2.551 2.555 2.557
Rgmin:                    2.527 2.527 2.525
Diff:                      .024  .028  .032


And while they're not identical, the difference could be viewed as designed in to compensate for the differences in the performance of the coverstocks. (Today's pearls are a 1/2 to one full degree stronger than yesteryear's coverstocks.)

And if you'll notice, early reports are displaying a vague similarity in overall performance of the 2 ball's given, of course, the difference in oil and lane surfaces.

So, I'm thinking, no, more - I'm wondering if whoever designed the new HRG might have had a slight or minor upgrade in the performance of the Silver Diamond in mind when they designed the HRG??

Just a thought to ponder.
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2006, 11:26:52 PM »
Very interesting.  I hadn't thought of that idea, but it makes sense.  There hasn't been a real replacement for the reaction the Silver Diamond provided since it was retired.

If the HRG is even a slight improvement on the SD, I think I'll start dropping hints to Santa.
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2006, 01:26:52 AM »
I have actually thought the same thing Charlest, I just never came out to say it.  Also, my Silver Diamond provides tremendous length for me, and I would love if the HRG was a replacement, as my Silver is getting up there in games
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2006, 04:39:36 AM »
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Throwing both, the Silver Diamond is absolutely nothing like the HRG. The HRg gets WAYY more length and very little midlane read at all.

You want more length, it is the HRG, you want less lengtha nd more overall hook, it's the Silver Diamond.


I didn't say they were identical. Please re-read. The HRG may be an upgraded SD in order to handle the stronger and more viscous oils of today. It should give the equivalent and proportionate reaction. Don't forget how many games are probably on your SD and is the SD brand new or in equivalent shape in order to do a proper comparison? Are they drilled the same?
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2006, 05:06:45 AM »
even though the numbers might be very close, the reaction of both balls is not even close to call it an upgrade ( in my opinion )

the HRG goes very long and, on its condition, snaps very hard.
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2006, 10:45:38 AM »
I have the silver diamond with under 15 games total the new HRG, as already stated nothing like each at all. A much closer ball reaction would either be an ebonite low flare stinger pearl or rotogrip ultra sonic, since i have all of them i can make this call. No not identical drillings but i am talking about ball motion, since you know i am nuts with about a million balls i will thorw in my opinion/theory. Hrg is decent backend but for me pearl cobalt produces more, so each person it depends on style,rev so forth and oil volume.

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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2006, 11:22:10 AM »

... very close specs but different cores, different coverstocks
... I don't think they have the Silver Diamond in mind
... when they developed the HRG
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2006, 01:55:06 PM »
Too many divergent opinions.

FWIW my Silver Diamond went pretty long and was pretty flippy, way back when. Maybe I used it on too much oil.

Core is same shape and the number are not that far apart.

I'll wait for some reviews from BTM and BJI.
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2006, 03:10:18 PM »
I just wish I had a Silver Diamond to compare my HRG to!
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2006, 10:24:53 PM »
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What Columbia Cover is on the HRG?
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M80^2 I believe. Which is on the Action Max.
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2006, 03:46:55 PM »
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So this ball could replace a MoRich Awesome Flip?
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If the Awesome FLip use Activator+, no, in my opinion, the M80 coverstock is not as strong as Activator+.
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2006, 06:16:52 PM »
Charlest:
I would agree, as the awesome flip seems to be a tad earlier, both are equally strong appearing on the back with the hrg being a touch longer
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2006, 10:44:06 PM »

So is this a ball for dry lanes?


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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2006, 08:53:30 AM »
very strong off the dry, if you have speed and revs sure you can throw it on a "drier" shot but not dry.  It does need some head oil to get thru the fronts
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Re: Uranium HRG - can this be THE idea behind it?
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2006, 01:12:52 PM »
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So, I'm thinking, no, more - I'm wondering if whoever designed the new HRG might have had a slight or minor upgrade in the performance of the Silver Diamond in mind when they designed the HRG??


charlest: Back to your original question, I really don't think the brain trust at Lane#1 delved into the 'deep thinking' you seem to be suggesting. In my correspondence with them, they simply seemed to be looking to introduce a twist to the Uranium line -- classic Uranium reaction with a little more length and backend pop. If it's reaction overlaps any other balls released in the past (Cranberry, Golden Nugget, or even the Silver Diamond), it's more coincidence than anything else.

The thread makes for an interesting read though.

 


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