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Title: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: straightUP7 on February 20, 2004, 04:09:31 AM
Any input appreciated..... I have a post in the "for sale section", looking for a NIB Black Buzz 16# (or 15). Yeah, I know.... What are the differences that you have noticed between a Viper and a Black Buzzsaw? The one that I have is black with a red pin and says Buzzsaw/C. I believe that it shares the same core as the "Silver", am I correct? THANKS for your time.....

Take care,   Jeff

Edited on 2/21/2004 12:59 PM
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: drillwizard on February 20, 2004, 07:19:26 PM
I have a used 16# Black Raspberry Buzzsaw
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: straightUP7 on February 20, 2004, 07:35:06 PM
Hi Mr Wizard, I have a Black Raspberry already (THANKS JS).... David, do you a NIB 16# Black Buzzsaw? What is the difference between the "Viper" and "Black Buzzsaw"?
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: scottie on February 20, 2004, 08:07:54 PM
the viper has a flat top to the core......the orginal black saw has a solid diamond .the silver has a center nugget in the core and would be stronger than the black.my black rolls very even with a smooth backend.i could only use it for dry lanes.hope this helps....
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: scottie on February 20, 2004, 08:16:09 PM
i agree-only black saw with red pin or actually pink, is the black raspberry....orginal black came with yellow pin.
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: straightUP7 on February 21, 2004, 01:31:36 AM
THANKS for all the input. Colin and Scottie, go to bowlingballreviews; there are "3" different "Black Buzzsaws" listed. The "Original", the "Black/C", and the "Black/C2".... The "Black/C2" is the Black Raspberry, it has a reddish purple pin (I have one sitting in front of me) and reddish purple lettering. The "Black/C" (the one I am asking about) has a reddish orange pin and reddish orange lettering, it has the same core (I believe) as the "Silver". The "Pink" and the "Blueberry" have Buzzsaw/C2 on their label (the "LRG" does not, it has Buzzsaw/C). I am looking for opinions on ball reaction. But, any information is appreciated. THANKS AGAIN.....

Take care,   Jeff
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: T-GOD on February 21, 2004, 11:52:23 AM
The Viper rolls very smooth because it has almost no flare. The Black Buzzsaw/C (red pin) has the same core as the Silver Diamond and will react stronger than the Viper, but still be smooth in comparison to other companies stuff. =:^D
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: straightUP7 on February 21, 2004, 05:36:36 PM
THANKS T-God, very helpful..... Snakes, Beans, Mr Wizard, or any longtime Saw owners; share some of your knowledge, PLEASE...
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: Strapper_Squared on February 24, 2004, 04:13:54 PM
yes.. I have a black/c with red pin and labels... they do exist!  Just very tough to find... took me 2 yrs.  Core is same as silver (I believe), but has PK18 cover.  Polished give good length and hard arcing backend.  

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Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: snakes on February 24, 2004, 04:42:29 PM
That buzzsaw "C" is a new one for me.  I have the original and have had the raspberry, but not familiar with the 2nd edition.

Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: Strapper_Squared on February 24, 2004, 04:49:28 PM
Yep...
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=705

In a period of a little over a month, I came across two of them...  both had the logos upside down.  Sold one and still have the other.  The one I have all black.. the other that I sold had some white swirled in it.  The ball seems to roll well on most any condition.  
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Edited on 2/24/2004 5:46 PM
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: straightUP7 on February 24, 2004, 11:55:03 PM
Howdy Strapper, THANKS for the "proof" that I am not NUTS....

Anybody else????
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: straightUP7 on March 02, 2004, 04:38:43 PM
Any more INPUT? Before we put this one to bed?

Take care,   Jeff
Title: Re: Viper vs Black Buzzsaw/C reddish orange pin
Post by: Chazman819 on March 02, 2004, 05:25:35 PM
I have both the black buzzsaw/c and the viper...well had the viper. Both were smooth off the breakpoint, at least IMO. The black buzzsaw was noticebly stronger however. Still have the black buzzsaw, haven't thrown it in a while though, actually a tad to light. Actually I might break it out again and throw it and see what happens.
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